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Chanders

@Chanders@sciences.social

Professor of Sociology. Interests include publics, assemblages, middlebrow culture, where Europe & the new world meet. Mann, Bolano, Charlie Parker, Virginia Woolf.

Associate Editor of the International Journal of Press/Politics and Sociologica.

(he/him).

I’m from New York, live in Bologna, Italy, and work in Milan. There’s a lot of stuff I miss about the USA and a lot I don’t. I miss cornmeal and Mexican food primarily.

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Chanders,
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@KatyPearce @aram @fheinderyckx @ICAHDQ @communicationscholars @Noshir @claesdevreese @ICA_CAT @PolComm

It seems like AOIR must have had a lot of these conversations already, is this correct Aram? Is there a way to do some knowledge transfer w/ ICA at some point?

mariyadelano, to threads
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Alright. I will admit - I don't like a lot of the vibe on , don't like how they are promoting celebrities, or how clout and status centric it has been from literally the first hours at launch... BUT

Because I'm a and professional, I do think I'll be staying there as long as others do. I'm already finding other marketing & people who I haven't been in touch with since Twitter in Nov. + lovely to reconnect with the community.

The Fedi is my true love though

Chanders,
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@mariyadelano a lot of people are gonna go that way I think.

misc, to random
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People who fade out here, you think it's usually cause they get bored? If so, is that just an inevitable side effect of asking people to "be the algorithm"?

Chanders,
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@misc @design_law since at least 2016, Twitter was an endless shitpile of political fights, the main character of the day repeated every day, ambient friend content and the excuse that you could be on there “for work.” It is deliberately and algorithmically designed to be very addictive.

I find I’m on here in waves. Sometimes a lot and sometimes I don’t think about it for a week at a time. In that way it’s like everything else in my life that’s not family or work.

jeffjarvis, to random
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Yes, I'm trying out Threads. But I still love you. Mastodon.

Chanders,
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@jeffjarvis I’m really hoping that they federate. I’d love to have access to all the future of media influencers and news brands that will end up there from within the much more pleasant environment here.

Chanders, to journalism
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Some professional news:

I'm very happy to share the news that the book, "A History of Digital Journalism" and authored by myself, Eugenia Mitchelstein, and Danielle Brown, is now under contract with Polity Press! Beyond the actual work on the substance of the book, I am really excited to work with these brilliant scholars. 1/x

Chanders,
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@dankennedy_nu Many thanks Dan. This will be a largely synthetic work, rather than based on new empirical research, so your books will be key to telling the story.

Chanders,
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From our proposal:

"We argue that, after more than forty years of digital developments in the news industry, it is past time to start thinking of the “future of news” as something with a past as well as a future. Understanding these developments in a historical sense allows for an examination of what happened to the news business globally and what developments really mattered and which ones that seemed important at the time turned out to have been nothing more than marketing hype." 2/3

Chanders,
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"Academics and communications scholars of a certain age may feel they know this history intuitively, but they sometimes lack a clear and compelling overview of the topic. Students today, meanwhile, have lived through multiple generations of digital change. To many of them, the founding of ProPublica or the invention of Twitter is ancient history and needs to be treated just like any historical development." 3/3.

Stay tuned for updates as we work on this project!

Chanders,
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(given the death of academic twitter and my lack of presence on I am kind of enjoying the idea that the news of this project will percolate through the intellectual community, by rumor and word of mouth) ...

Theblueone, to random
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Look, this is my doomer side speaking, but kinda getting the feeling that Mastodon and Bluesky were Rosencrantz and Gildenstern; Threads is Fortinbras and he just walked onstage, stepping over the slowly cooling body of Elon Musk.

Chanders,
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@Theblueone I guess at the very least this is an experiment; and on some level a replication experiment of what went down with the idea of “the web” 20 years ago. We are gonna learn a lot about why things work the way they do any a year from now.

Chanders, to bluesky
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Is there a community on ? Or are there other academic communities there?

Not planning on going there, just genuinely curious. These communities are not here in any great strength after the last few months of 2022. My hunch was always just that they stated on Twitter, but as seems increasingly and genuinely non-functional, I do wonder what is going on.

Chanders,
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What are you finding @alex ? I know you are active in both places … is it a division of labor where BlueSky is for clowning and shitposting and here is more serious, while Twitter keeps getting hollowed out?

Chanders,
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@inquiline @alex without having actually ever been there it seems to replicate a lot of the things that I found stressful on Twitter.

Chanders,
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I genuinely miss my academic networks sometimes and I’ve also thought about those networks as an object of inquiry in my own scholarship. Just really curious about what the next few years will be like.

Theblueone, to random
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My tolerance for anyone just being a snarky dick on social has dropped to about zero. If I engage with you on the level and you just respond with "LOL" and some snarky idiot comment, I just delete my shit, block, and move the fuck on. I no longer have time for any human for whom being an asshole online is their chosen personality.

Times have changed. This ain't the bird app anymore.

Chanders,
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@Theblueone exactly. and you know what, some people may enjoy the performative snakry shitposting somewhere else. Good for them. enjoy it but don't bring it to me.

Chanders,
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@Theblueone and long term, this is the single best thing the migration to all these alternatives and the collapse of twitter has given us,- a chance to get out of the muck and decide what we want our user experience to be like.

Chanders, to random
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Man Sinéad O’Connor really nailed it on the Catholic Church huh? Two decades ahead of her time.

Chanders,
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@dankennedy_nu good point and fair enough. Tbh I remember a lot from those days as a (non-Catholic kid in S Jersey) and the discourse was just really bizarre. Teenagers made “jokes” if you can call it that about the church - or at the very least it was well known. And somehow never really talked about. Hard to explain.

Chanders, to twitter
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Seriously though when people use this thing it is literally exactly the same as , like, 100%. I mean better, but basically the same.

The differences between Mastodon and Twitter are 98% due to the frequency of use.

Chanders,
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@seachanger 💯

Chanders, to threads
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Some questions that are probably obvious to everyone but not me.

  1. If, at some point, threads adds ActivityPub integration, I will be able to follow Thread accounts just like I do Mastodon accounts?

  2. There is a lot of fear about Threads, in part because it could end up sucking up all the Fediverse data?

1/2

Chanders,
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(Con)

  1. I’d have the same discovery problems finding new Threads accounts that I’d like to follow as I do on normal Mastodon?

I’m just wondering if I can start to rebuild some of my Twitter network, assuming they go to threads, from the safety of this lovely Ivory app. 🙂

2/2

Chanders, to random
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Happy United States Independence Day to all my peeps.

Chanders, to random
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"X isn’t the old Twitter anymore. Bluesky, Threads, and Mastodon don’t yet fill the old Twitter niche either. But at this point, staying on Twitter because there’s no replacement is a bit like saying “I still drive my old gas guzzler because I can’t afford a new car,” when the old gas guzzler is missing a tire and the steering wheel. …Dude, accept it. You just don’t have a car anymore."

https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/does-anyone-think-twitter-gets-better?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=387131&post_id=136791650&isFreemail=true&r=15ki&utm_medium=email

Chanders, to random
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“[Zadie Smith’s] two paths for the novel have become a perfect circle: What could be more avant-garde in an age of data harvesting and identity politics than a heartfelt 19th-century novel?” https://www.vulture.com/article/zadie-smith-the-fraud-review.html?ueid=b637f759312c7fe8bc635947e83b971b&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cover%20Drop%20-%20September%2011%2C%202023&utm_term=NYMag%20-%20Paywall

Chanders, to random
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Right, this is annoying.

Chanders, to random
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Definitely seeing a larger than usual number of academic follows in the past few days. Hi everyone!

A lot of them seem to be from folks who have joined for a while but who have been mostly quiet. Not sure if this is related to the "X" debacle, problems at other sites (BlueSky, Threads, etc) or just wanting to try again.

Anyway welcome to all.

Chanders, to random
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“reflexive contrarianism is, as the economist Adam Ozimek puts it, a “brain rotting drug.” Those who succumb to that drug “lose the ability to judge others they consider contrarian, become unable to tell good evidence from bad, a total unanchoring of belief that leads them to cling to low quality contrarian fads.””

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/06/opinion/robert-kennedy-jr-silicon-valley.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Chanders, to books
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Finally found an English language bookstore (in Milan) that sells used books in English (and is close enough to the Duomo that I can sometimes get there after work).

More than buying books, it finally seems I have a place to donate my used books, which will be a relief for our bookshelves 😉

People are shocked when I tell them there is no similar bookstore in Bologna (a university town through and through.) Welcome to the world Amazon has created.

Chanders, to random
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“That raises an awkward question. What if globalisation, far from promoting democracy in China, undermined democracy in the US? It would be an amusing historical irony — if we were not living with the consequences.”

https://on.ft.com/3t0QofP

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