FediPact: Defederating Meta, Together

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

i want YOU :VantaBlackCat:​​🫵

for signing FediPact

defederate meta's threads today!!!

https://fedipact.online

TheJen,
@TheJen@beige.party avatar

Gee whiz. Massive abusive tech surveillance company doesn't do what they promised. Shocking NO ONE.

<https://todon.eu/@queue/112130436372737490>  
queue@todon.eu - Reminder to anyone who said "Meta wouldn't do anything to Fediverse, we should let them join!"

Meta is now automatically muting all posts that mention PixelFed, so it's users can't read about any alternatives to its services.

<https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807>

Just remember, *Every time advocacy groups warn about tech/capitalism, believe them.* We don't make shit up, we use history of actions and facts to state our reasons to be against it.

If your instance isn't part of @FediPact please urge your admins to join or move to another instance who is.

And if you want proof, ask the general public what Jabber/XMPP was, and then ask what Google how they killed it.

EDIT: *Please* send support to the creator of the FediPact, @vantablack as she is homeless. This is possible because of them.

#fedipact #meta #pixelfed #eff
strypey,

@TheJen
> Meta is now automatically muting all posts that mention PixelFed

Once people learn about that (or other abuses by Meta), they have the freedom to move off Meta's Chains server, while continuing to talk to their friends still on Chains. Unless the server they move to is blocking Chains that is.

If all fediverse servers supported the Anti-Fedi Meta Pact, those people would have to choose between losing most of their social network or staying on Chains. Making them more likely to stay.

strypey,

@TheJen
This is why many people think the Anti-Fedi Meta Pact helps Meta far more than it helps the fediverse, let alone people feeling trapped by Meta's network effects. I don't remember anybody saying anything even vaguely resembling this strawman;

> Meta wouldn't do anything to Fediverse, we should let them join!"

FediPact, (edited )
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ACCESSIBILITY CHANGES TO THE FEDIPACT WEBSITE

thanks to feedback and help from peeps on here i've made some changes to https://fedipact.online to fix some accessibility issues with the previous version of the site

🖤 there's now a toggle button to swap the background and text (dark mode), and it respects the user's system preference on first load

🖤 there's another toggle button for the animated floating hearts, in addition to them being off if the user has "reduced motion" enabled

🖤 the heart bullet points are formatted properly now so each individual one isn't read out repetitively by screenreaders

🖤 links are now underlined to be obvious as links

if there's any other changes you can think of to make the fedipact experience better for everyone, feel free to send them my way 😁

FediPact,
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shoutout to @james for all the html magic!!!

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

the website looks so much nicer now and is that much more usable hell yeah i'm so happy

FediPact,
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FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

@Seirdy thanks for pointing these out, i'll work on fixing them soon 🙂

see also: https://cyberpunk.lol/@FediPact/112129657621388735

kyonshi,
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

@FediPact these people have likely not experienced the old days of geocities and MySpace. I think I still have some of their sites seared into my retina.

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

what if i signed up for the next FediForum to talk about FediPact and why people should defederate threads lmao

i think there'll be one more this year before threads fully federates

that would be funny probably

#FediPact #meta #threads #FediForum

fediforum,
@fediforum@mastodon.social avatar

@FediPact You would be more than welcome. We want FediForum to be a place where a variety of opinions can be (respectully) aired and discussed and mutually understood. Would make a great session.

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

@fediforum yayyyyyy hell yeah okay i'll sign up when the next one rolls around 😁

FediPact,
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FediPact,
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FediPact,
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meta just showed off threads’ fediverse integration for the very first time

"during the fediforum conference, meta demonstrated what it might look like to toggle on fediverse sharing and post across multiple platforms"

https://www.theverge.com/24106231/threads-fediverse-demo-meta-fediforum

FediPact,
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"i know there’s a ton of skepticism about meta entering the fediverse — it’s completely understandable. i do want to kind of make a plea that i think everyone on the team has really good intentions. we really want to be a good member of the community and give people the ability to experience what the fediverse is."

🙄

FediPact,
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i just really wanted fediforum peeps to know about FediPact since it seems like that's mentioned so much less when talking of meta's threads these days

there used to be whole articles about it, now "skepticism about threads joining the fediverse" is only ever mentioned in passing

it's almost like the uncomfortable contributions of marginalized women get swept aside and ignored consistently in life lol

https://fedipact.online

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

REMEMBER: it's NEVER too late to sign the FediPact!!!

with the nefarious behemoth known as "threads" looming over the horizon, threatening to encroach upon our homes more and more each day, ask YOUR instance admin about signing the pact and committing to defederating it today!!!!!

rachaelspooky,
@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol avatar

@FediPact i have a slight hunch my admin would love this

vantablack,
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FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

the saga continues

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

me, vanta, trans enby girl polyam lesbian gender terrorist: "people should block threads because it will make fedi unsafe for queer people"

the verge, for some reason: "OBVIOUSLY it's a bunch of NERD BOYS trying to keep the WOMEN out"

video from the "Meta and Reddit prove the social web is over" episode of the vergecast where they talk about fedipact and say it's all just a bunch of "dude nerds" trying to keep women out because "no girls allowed"

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

here's that part in the full video btw

https://youtu.be/BzkfW_L0RAY&t=1442

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

@nilaypatel -- editor-in-chief of @theverge -- thinks there aren't girls on the fediverse 😂

boost this if you're a girl on the fediverse to scare him lmao

FediPact,
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FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

the fedipact list at https://fedipact.online has been updated 🎉

we are now at over 700 signatures!!! thanks so much for your support, everyone!!!!! together we can keep the fediverse a safe and cozy place free from corporate control!!!!!!!!!!

FediPact, (edited )
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

although we've received more than 700 signatures

the form itself has well over a thousand submissions lol

why?

about 1/3 of them are just attempts at trolling me lmao

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

The Fedipact statistics are interesting

7% of active users committed to #fedipact - https://fedidb.org/current-events/anti-meta-fedi-pact

  • How representative of the user base is this, or are admins gatekeeping here? A large survey would be good to clear that up.

  • EG, Mastodon, relative to its userbase, seems the most "Meta friendly" with only 57% of fedipact users (but ~80% all users)

  • Fractal of niche-dom? Fedi ~1% of social media, fedi-pact ~ 10% of fedi. So anti-meta-fediverse ~0.1%?

@fediverse
@fediversenews

petrescatraian,

@ajsadauskas Flipboard is actively working towards federation though.

@ada @haui_lemmy

flamingmongoose,

They began experimentally federating several of their staff accounts. I could read them directly on mastodon. I don’t THINK they could read any Mastodon data

vantablack,
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FediPact,
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How Threads will integrate with the Fediverse

  • December 2023 – A user will be able to opt in via the Threads app to have their posts visible to Mastodon clients. People would be able to reply and like those posts using their Mastodon clients, but those replies and likes would not be visible within the Threads application. Threads users would not be able to follow or see posts published across Mastodon servers, or reply to them or like then.
  • Early 2024 (Part One) – the Like counts on the Threads app would combine likes from Mastodon and Threads users
  • Early 2024 (Part Two) – replies posted on Mastodon servers would be visible in the Threads application
  • Late 2024 – A “mixed” Fediverse and Threads experience where you will be able to follow Mastodon users within Threads, and reply to them and like them
  • TBD – Full blended interoperability between Threads and Mastodon

http://plasticbag.org/archives/2024/01/how-threads-will-integrate-with-the-fediverse/

Jain,
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@FediPact who doesnt use https nowdays :blobcatfacepalm2:

FediPact,
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hiiiiiiiiiiii welcome to the NEW official account for The Anti-Meta Fedi Pact at https://fedipact.online/

The Pact was started on june 17th, 2023 by @vantablack as a way to defend against meta's intended incursion into the fediverse

it's basically a (very pretty) list of instances who've signed it and agreed to block project92/barcelona/threads whenever it appears

to read about vanta's personal reasons for creating The Pact you can visit https://fedipact.online/why

this is the appropriate account to tag for Pact related discussions from now on, please do not bother me on my main about it lol

MediaActivist,
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Hi @onepict did you ever find a decent Pixelfed instance that was part of the ? I'll probably settle on one to switch to this week, as I had some options but didn't want to finalise without checking if I'd missed some info haha!

onepict,
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@MediaActivist I'm on a small individual instance. But I'm happy to boost .

Although perhaps @vantablack has some recommendations.

inari,
@inari@squeaky.social avatar

Squeaky.social does not federate with companies such as Meta. We will continue to support a free and transparent network safe from the aggressive and deceptive practices that these organizations use.

tokyo_0,
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

If I have to debunk the "There's no point -ing Meta because they'll just scrape what's public" argument one more time I might have to pull out my own eyes.

Beyond the technicalities, or law, there is value in challenging what is wrong even if assholes will still try to do it. There is value in people expressing concerns and working together as a group to address them. There is value in showing those who didn't speak up or act because they thought they'd be alone that they are not.

flancian,
@flancian@social.coop avatar

https://social.coop/@flancian/111670500999654865

about and [[Threads Federation]], low n, FYI

katanova,
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@flancian
My position: megacorps engage in digital colonialism as a matter of course.

The purpose of social media companies is to gain market share through "market penetration" and then "leverage" that market share into profit.

Put another way, the purpose of social media companies is to create and exploit dependence.

Engaging with corporate social media invites them to exploit us for profit.

I don't think assuming good faith is wise, when there is mountains of evidence of bad faith.

dsfgs,

Mastodon is become more a brand than a software. If one searches 'mastodon' one gets a bunch articles that pretty much treat M'don as a brand with scant lip service to Fediverse, and links to a couple of the biggest M'don instances that happen to be melding with Threats.

If a is your thing, set out to say and write 'fediverse' — proudly and deliberately.

We as fedizens built this place.

All the best for the new year ahead.

ErikUden,
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Hey Fedi Admins, y'all federating with this? :Threads_Burning:

ErikUden,
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@aral thanks to Dansup's and Nume McAaroon's tools it's very easy to check:

https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v2

https://fedidb.org/current-events/anti-meta-fedi-pact

ErikUden,
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@skobkin have you ever run a social network? You're telling me I should individually ban each Nazi on the 141 million user social network instead of just defederating from the Nazi network all together? Sorry not sorry, but that's just not possible. Every Admin has a limited amount of time. If your instance isn't moderating discrimination it has no place interacting with our users.

Those were the rules for every other Fediverse instance, and we do not discriminate nor favor Threads in any way. They are to be treated like every other instance.

For me personally an instance's user's ability to not be harassed but protected is more important.

ophiocephalic,
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

The Intentional Federation

We have recently been advocating the activation of a function which is present but usually off in Mastodon and other fedi services called Authorized Fetch. As we plead with the major development projects to take safety more seriously and make it a default, we have learned that Meta itself didn't think twice about it and has activated it in their own ActivityPub implementation against us.

We know this because of news that a fascist has devised a way to evade it and force federation with Threads. They promise to then turn their technique upon us and coerce unblockable federation with fascist and cryptospam instances: https://soapbox.pub/blog/threads-server-blocking/

1/7

ophiocephalic,
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While Authorized Fetch remains important to activate, it is clear that even it - which remember, provides better defense than that currently implemented on most of our home servers - is inadequate to the threats facing us as the Zuckerberg incursion progresses. If we're serious about protecting our communities and expressions from absorption into surveillance capitalism and the accelerating miseries of fascism, we need to talk about a stronger grade of defensive weaponry.

To this end, @are0h has fired a first volley: https://h-i.social/@are0h/111653850819592308 Every fedi community which serves as a refuge for those targeted and under siege should be thinking like this. True safety only awaits us in a transitive approach to defederation, and further on, in an intentional federation based on the allow-list.

2/7

ophiocephalic,
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A note also on the gaslighting we face from Meta's colluders; the latest being the embarrassing spectacle of ActivityPub co-author Evan wagging around a "small fedi". @thenexusofprivacy has a good rebuttal to this cringe exhibitionism here: https://privacy.thenexus.today/the-annotated-case-for-a-big-fedi/

Evan has seen fit to misappropriate the "small fedi" idea, then build a blog post around warping it into a smear, with a long list of patronizing and fictional mischaracterizations. But what is truly small is the thinking that the fedi's future is surveillance, algorithmic ingestion, centralized servers too big to moderate, and huge psychotic corporations like Meta. In fact, that is social media's catastrophic past, the one we're all here to reject.

6/7

aral, (edited )
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@FediPact It’s a single person instance so of no real import but, just fyi (and to no one’s surprise), Threads is suspended on mastodon.ar.al.

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