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OSI Standards director · Meshed Insights CEO · Geek-Nerd · Cat servant.

On the Internet since 1987 (via BBSes) · Prior Fediverse: identi.ca from 2008; mastodon.cc from 2017. Old posts are auto-deleted.

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webmink, to terraform
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The inevitable is here following 's switch away from

https://spacelift.io/blog/announcing-opentf

webmink, to ai
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If you are using Zapier be aware they are using your analytics, configuration and task data to train their model.

https://zapier.com/legal/tos-update-faq

webmink, to opensource
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The license change is just the most recent example of a company that no longer needs to drive adoption with claims. I wrote about the phenomenon in 2021 but it's been around for about 20 years. It is not "the end of open source", just a lifecycle stage for a VC funded software startup that was leveraging it.

https://meshedinsights.com/2021/02/02/rights-ratchet/

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@sjn Licenses that are used without a CLA are good, especially if they include copyleft provisions.

webmink, to random
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Are you involved in making open in Europe? Substantial funding for your work and travel is available from the @EU_Commission - all you have to do is fill out a form explaining what you are doing and will do the rest.

https://www.standict.eu/standicteu-2026-2nd-open-call

webmink, to random
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I have added an update to "Not Using Zoom" to reflect the ToS change just pushed (around 17:00 UTC I think).

https://the.webm.ink/not-using-zoom

tl;dr: Doesn't seem to really fix the issue.

webmink, to random
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Zoom's ToS just changed.

https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/

10.4 has had the addition "Notwithstanding the above, Zoom will not use audio, video or chat Customer Content to train our artificial intelligence models without your consent."

No word about the other kinds of Customer Content (or indeed Customer Input).

webmink, to random
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I made a page so I can explain to clients why I'm not using .

https://the.webm.ink/not-using-zoom

mfriess, to ai

Effective 27 July changed their terms of service (T&C) whereby without opt-out YOU give them consent to perpetually use your content (video, audio,…) also for “training and tuning of algorithms and models”.
https://stackdiary.com/zoom-terms-now-allow-training-ai-on-user-content-with-no-opt-out/

Check for yourself:
https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/
Compare with the version archived 25 July by :
https://web.archive.org/web/20230725013414/https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/

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@mfriess
In addition to all this, in 10.6 you "represent and warrant that you have the right to upload Customer Input and for Zoom to provide, create, or make available any Customer Content to you, and that such use or provision by you, your End User, or Zoom does not violate or infringe any rights of any third party."

So you are basically indemnifying them if they train their AI with someone else's IP you are discussing internally via Zoom.

webmink, to opensource
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I would have more patience for the argument that is dead were it not for the fact the people making the argument are benefiting from huge quantities of the stuff and would rather their customers didn't benefit the same

josh, to opensource
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    @josh
    Isn't the author still an executive at one of those aforementioned opportunists?

    I thought @sogrady wrote a fine response. https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2023/08/03/why-opensource-matters/

    @osi

    BBC_News_Labs, to random
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    Hi, we are BBC News Labs

    We’re charged with driving innovation for BBC News. Our team of technologists and journalists explore how new tools and formats affect how news is found and reported.

    You can find out more at https://bbcnewslabs.co.uk/ and we’ll be posting here about our work

    This account is part of an experiment from BBC R&D in establishing a BBC presence in the Fediverse.

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    @BBC_News_Labs Delighted to see you here, and looking forward to seeing your curated-form news feed here when you are ready. Ideally you would use ActivityPub's headline feature and post a paragraph-length lede as content.

    webmink, to fediverse
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    Warmly welcoming the BBC to the @BBCRD

    webmink, to Wikipedia
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    is fighting a suit in Portugal where the appeals court seems so keen to rule for the rich plaintiff that it is filling in the arguments he forgot to make!

    https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/27/high-stakes-for-the-wikimedia-projects-in-portugal-fighting-a-strategic-lawsuit-against-public-participation-slapp/

    webmink, to opensource
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    A "just obey the law" clause in an (or wannabe) license is so pointless it's possibly just projection of the intent of the author to do otherwise...

    https://the.webm.ink/just-obey-the-law

    webmink, to opensource
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    While F-Droid appears to be "just" an alternative for , it is actually the apex of a lifestyle movement that's choosing to use Android only with and without or advertising-related . Realising that makes many of its features - and shortcomings - easier to understand. I was the main interviewer in the discussion this week on Weekly with core @fdroidorg developer @eighthave and it was a good show.

    https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/741?autostart=false

    webmink, to ai
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    @whvholst So you are saying there are demos that do in fact store a representation of an image (etc) in violation of the Shannon limit, rather than create an image from statistical metrics that are not representing the image?

    webmink, to opensource
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    If someone is so motivated by a crime that the law and its sanctions don't stop them, do you seriously think they will reconsider just because you might sue them for infringement of your license? What do you think you can do about it that the state can't?

    Seriously, don't use "just obey the law" clauses like Meta just did in their not-open-source AI license.

    https://the.webm.ink/just-obey-the-law

    webmink, to opensource
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    Meta's not-open-source license includes a "don't break the law" clause among others. Here's why that's a bad idea that will prevent a license being approved as

    https://the.webm.ink/just-obey-the-law

    webmink, to privacy
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    The UK government wants input on its ideas to make the Investigatory Powers Act even more invasive on everyone's liberty. Deadline is 31 July. You can read more and respond here: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/revised-investigatory-powers-act-notices-regimes-consultation

    Apple already said it would withdraw Facetime and iMessage in the UK if the changes proceed:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66256081

    kirschner, to security
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    On the the @fsfe has already proposed a solution that will lead to more while safeguarding ():

    • Liability should be shifted to those deploying Free Software instead of those developing Free Software and

    • Those who significantly financially benefit from this deployment should make sure the software becomes CE-compliant

    https://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230719-01.en.html

    webmink,
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    @kirschner
    Unfortunately the late changes ITRE made seem to make things worse, not better. As they are now final texts, that means we are going forward with a bill that makes regular donations to projects like @libreoffice turn them into commercial projects and which discourages companies contributing to (). It looks a real mess to me.

    @fsfe

    webmink, to opensource
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    The only people who think they can define to suit their own needs are people who want to deny some or all others

    webmink, to Cybersecurity
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    How well is ENISA doing at ? The @EU_Commission wants evidence for their mandatory evaluation, do you have any? They will hear from lots of corporations but some input is also needed.

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13919-Evaluation-of-the-European-Union-Agency-for-Cybersecurity-ENISA-and-the-European-Cybersecurity-Certification-Framework_en

    webmink, to opensource
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    It's time for Europeans to start writing to their MEPs about the Cyber Resilience Act. It has recently been modified in a way that will be very harmful to projects.

    This article from Github does a good job explaining the issues. Those first two issues are the ones that have been recently and intentionally introduced. Your MEP probably doesn't know and still thinks open source has been excluded from the scope.

    https://github.blog/2023-07-12-no-cyber-resilience-without-open-source-sustainability/

    webmink, to foss
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    I just posted my keynote from North, where I explained that the network effect triggers is stochastic not deterministic, so short-termist strategies are likely to backfire.

    https://the.webm.ink/open-source-is-powered-by-stochastic-confidence

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