fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Good. The modern NRA has been the worst thing for guns rights in years. Wayne LaPierre can rot in hell.

Cylusthevirus,
Cylusthevirus avatar

It'd be one thing if they were only opposed by people for more gun control, but they aren't even really good at their core mission. All they do is simp for the GOP, even when doing so runs counter to their stated agenda.

TransplantedSconie,

all they do is simp launder money to the GOP for the Russians.

Fixed it for ya.

Cylusthevirus,
Cylusthevirus avatar

JFC, really? I'm not up on the latest NRA lore but that sounds too bad to be true.

dhork,

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44885633.amp

This article is a bit old, after it was written Butina went back to Russia and is now a member of theit legislature.

Cylusthevirus,
Cylusthevirus avatar

I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. HOW?

vivadanang,

HOW?

well, citizens united mostly, but also because the GOP knows no shame, even dead children and collaborating with the russians.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

citizens united. Those justices have decided to be on the infamous side of history.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

The NRA is a marketing team for gun manufacturers, and what sells guns is fear of gun bans. The NRA does everything in their power to fuel those fears.

Pro and anti gun alike hate them. It’s mostly just boomers keeping them going.

Maeve,

That sudden ray of light is Huey P smiling.

Rivalarrival,

They aren’t a gun rights organization. They aren’t even a manufacturer’s organization. They are Republican shills, first, last, and always.

I was finally convinced they had abandoned gun owners when they endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. When a gun rights organization openly endorses the signer of a gun ban, there is something deeply wrong.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

Did they endorse Reagan, too? He signed a gun ban.

Rivalarrival,

That was slightly before my time, but yes, they did endorse Reagan in 1980 and 1984, and Reagan had signed the Mulford Act 13 years earlier. The Mulford act wasn’t a gun ban per se; it prohibited carry of loaded firearms without a permit.

Reagan went on to support the Brady Bill and the 1994 AWB after his presidency. Reagan also banned carry in national parks. Clinton and 2 Bushes didn’t undo that mistake; Obama fixed it in his first month in office.

But I digress: the NRA has done far more for the Republican Party than it has done for gun rights.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

the NRA has done far more for the Republican Party than it has done for gun rights

It's the same story with evangelical groups like Focus on the Family: They're just shills for Republicans, and are actively hurting their religion in the process.

rayyy,

Exactly. I belonged to the NRA way back when they were a safety and information organization. They began to sell high priced commemorative hunting guns, then commemorative military guns. Soon they started selling military style guns like the M1 Garand rifle and the M1 carbine. I quit. Their push continued into modern M16s while simultaneously pushing scare articles to convince people of dangers so great that they would need buy military style weapons. The NRA degenerated into a money and greed operation that became the opposite of its origins intent.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They’ve even wormed their way into schools. They have “Eddie the Eagle” that teaches elementary school kids gun safety. With NRA logos all over the place, of course. I was disgusted when my daughter brought the information home.

Absolutely kids should be taught gun safety. They just shouldn’t get it with a heaping helping of NRA.

skeeter_dave,

Gun safety was one of their original missions and where quite successful at it before they turned into a fear mongering lobbying group.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Someone else needs to do it now. But I’m guessing the NRA gives school systems plenty of money to use their program.

Blackmist,
chaogomu,

I'd say it started with Harlan Carter. He was the one who decided that the NRA should be all about the profits of gun manufacturers, and not about safe and sane gun culture.

banneryear1868,

Gun culture is just a different and insane thing in the US. We have a bit of it in Canada and gun issues in the cities, but guns are highly regulated here, maybe too much in some specific aspects. I’m in favor of less restrictions for historical pieces similar to historical cars where you can apply for that status.

Where I’m from lots of people have guns but there’s not really a gun culture, they’re basically used for animal defense. Last incident I know of was a deliriously sick coyote getting in to a horse paddock in daylight.

atzanteol,

The NRA changed American thinking from “guns are tools that we sometimes need for protection” to “GUNS ARE THE ONLY THING PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FREEDOM!!!1!!!”.

They can rot in hell.

banneryear1868,

You just know there’s so many Americans with guns who can’t wait to kill someone for the right reason in the most violent way, it’s like their fantasy.

I was listening to an American at a work outing once who got inspected at the Canadian border, and she was ranting about how they thought she had a gun and were checking everywhere. I’m sympathizing cause that sucks, then she’s like “but they never checked my purse where I kept my gun!” and it’s like fuck sakes woman, you certainly made your point…

Ranvier,

Hmmm, did the spigot of Russian money flowing into their coffers dry up?

ArbiterXero,

That’s the real answer. “We’re no longer a foreign asset funnelling Russian money to republicans so we’re broke”

deft,

Yep if you look at all stuff across the world, the dirty money is drying up. The game is catching up

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

The game is catching up

The game

😡

winterayars,

I guess that whole war with Ukraine thing has some side effects!

JeeBaiChow,

Pity the number of victims of gun violence continues to rise, rather quickly.

HurlingDurling,

Not slowly enough

Clbull,

The NRA had lost a lot of financial backing because when the main thing you endorse is being used to murder schoolchildren on a borderline industrial scale, of course sponsors and advertisers will want nothing to do with it.

Jimmyeatsausage,

They also got busted for money laundering and being a front for foreign oligarchs to fund US politicians… I’m guessing all those rubles drying up hits the bittom line, too.

UnspecificGravity,

Good, even if you are supportive of gun rights there has to be a better option than contributing to a Russian fascist propaganda outlet.

Treczoks,

The lack of Russian money probably helped here, too. Good riddance.

Amends1782,

I feel like one of the 7 pro gun people on all of Lemmy, I’d like to share some perspective about the NRA being a boogieman. They absolutely are not the boogiman that leftists and anti gunners think they are. They are a ridiculously bloated, corrupt, beuracracy, no different than our federal government. They are all optics. In fact I’d say their only job is to be the boogieman and absorb negative attention, to allow the real gun rights groups to get some work done.

ilinamorato,

They keep a public list of approved politicians and downgrade anyone who even mentions gun reform. That feels like more than just a bureaucracy; since they’re largely funded by weapons manufacturers, it seems more like an extremely influential lobby. And since what they’re lobbying for is “keep pretending that there’s no way to solve the deadly problem that kills more humans than any other thing you don’t do to yourself and literally every other developed nation has solved,” it seems like their job is to enforce the prioritization of gun manufacturers’ profits over lives.

Octavio,

Can they speed it up a bit?

RememberTheApollo_,

But the damage it has done to the political landscape by pushing right wing agendas, fearmongering of every sort to get people to buy guns, and tying identity to gun ownership will live on far beyond the useful life of the NRA.

PoliticalAgitator,

The organization may be dead but the propaganda they created lives on in the heart of every gun owner.

eran_morad,

Yo how can we speed shit up? Fuck the nra, fuck russia, fuck the republican traitor filth.

Diplomjodler,

I’m sure Daddy Putin will have a replacement ready in no time.

Viking_Hippie,

Good news: NRA (maybe, hopefully) dying.

Absolutely horrible news: The void being filled by even more extreme and harmful groups within the same overall ideology, Islamic State style.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

A dozen other groups have far less power than one huge lobbying organization.

Viking_Hippie,

Not when they’re working together and have taken over most of the billionaire donors

nilloc,

And many of the dozen groups are run by the same family of douchbags. The Dorr brothers.

nilloc,

Yeah the No Compromise podcast is a really good primer for what the NRA is done.

Scary listen, especially with the new speaker of the house’s religious statements.

GBU_28,

Meh. The “gun groups” of the future are discord servers about 3d printing

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

That doesn’t sound like an organized group with lobbying and government presence. I’m fine with that.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

If they start going after 3D printers I might join them. I've got an unregistered gun maker sitting in the corner of my office, even though I mostly use it for printing figurines.

trash80,

Welcome aboard.

“NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers, Attempts to Target Ghost Guns”

www.tomshardware.com/…/ny-bill-bans-3d-printers

Pratai,

Good, but slowly isn’t good enough.

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