dgar,
@dgar@aus.social avatar

The thing is about Australian wildlife is that most Aussie animals won’t back down from a fight, but most of them don’t go looking for a fight either.

If you’re worried about visiting Australia because of our deadly fauna, here’s a hint. If you see an Australian animal, walk away from it.

A kangaroo has trouble disemboweling a retreating person because its attack involves rocking back on its tail and kicking you with both feet. It’s not really able to do any damage on something that’s moving away.

Magpies will generally let you know where their territory is, and if you stay out of it while they’re nesting, they won’t knock a hole in your head.

You literally have to get in the water to be bothered by sharks or crocodiles. Swim where the locals swim.

Snakes and spiders are about the only thing that you might happen upon by surprise and they tend to be happy to let you leave, but will happily fuck you up in self defence.

Y’see, Aussie wildlife mostly kills idiots who approach it, try to pat it, or catch it. Our animals mostly kill and maim stupid people.

I guess, my point is, we don’t have anything like lions or bears that will chase you down, pull you out of your car and tear you to pieces.

Also, the chances of being shot in this country is almost non existent.

Australia’s a pretty safe place to visit, comparatively.

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kithrup,
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@accretionist @dgar ... moose are pretty scary as-is, but at that speed?!?!?!?

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    @accretionist @dgar Australia needs more megafauna, I say.

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    @accretionist @dgar Hey, a komodo dragon can easily kill a human being -- they're venemous!

    I think we should bring these guys back from extinction, as preparation for bringing back mosasaurs.

    ariaflame,
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    @kithrup @accretionist @dgar Technically I think it's the really nasty bugs in their saliva that do the damage.

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    @accretionist @ariaflame @dgar No. That is outdated information -- it was proven a while ago that, in fact, komodo dragons are venomous. It turns out that quite a few lizards have venom -- mostly it just isn't enough to matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon#Venom

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @accretionist yeah, see? That shit’s scary. 😂

    DavidM_yeg,
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    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @accretionist @DavidM_yeg
    I’ll see your Cobra Chicken. Meet the Cassowary, an actual terror bird.

    Close up of a cassowary face in profile. Out-of-focus beach background.

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    @accretionist @DavidM_yeg
    Yeah, fuck those things. 😂

    till,

    @dgar

    What I have learned today

    • Australia has "the world's most dangerous bird", the Cassowary ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassowary )
    • it's basically a modern form of the Corythoraptor ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corythoraptor)
    • but it's not really dangerous, as long as you run away on sight and don't look like you may have food with you
    • the only place in the world, where you can savely observe all three species of cassowary is in Walsrode in Germany, about 35km from where I'm living.

    @accretionist @DavidM_yeg

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    @till @DavidM_yeg @accretionist
    It would be a very long post if I listed everything. I didn’t mention the venomous platypus or invisible stone fish, or wait-a-while.

    AnnonBudgie,
    @AnnonBudgie@theblower.au avatar

    @dgar @till @DavidM_yeg @accretionist Australian flora deserves a whole conversation of its own!

    And I'd much rather encounter wait-a-while vs "Gimpie Gompie" (stinging tree/dendrocnide excelsa)

    dgar,
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    @Tooden @accretionist @DavidM_yeg @till so cute, aren’t they?

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    @accretionist @till @DavidM_yeg @Tooden
    There’s not much point in mentioning this apart from the general rule of not approaching, trying to pat, or catch, the local wildlife.
    Particularly pointless mentioning this little bundle of cuteness as if it decides to bite you, you’re unlikely to leave the beach, let alone make it to medical care. 😂

    nuncio,

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    @accretionist @dgar
    Ya need a moose for the deep powder, the smaller deer get stuck

    wendinoakland,
    @wendinoakland@mastodon.social avatar

    @accretionist @dgar did someone corrupt this hashtag?

    rothko,
    @rothko@beige.party avatar

    @dgar @accretionist omg fear the moose

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @accretionist @rothko
    I want to know what it’s running “from”!

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    A popular magpie deterrent for cyclists in Australia.

    stuartl,
    @stuartl@longlandclan.id.au avatar

    @dgar I'm yet to see a magpie successfully penetrate my skull with this rig … (source: https://www.brisbanewicen.org.au/2018/08/04/y2w/)

    bastardsheep,
    @bastardsheep@aus.social avatar

    @stuartl @dgar This is more my style when I discover magpies are swooping in the area.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @stuartl @bastardsheep 😂

    cynblogger,
    @cynblogger@sfba.social avatar

    @dgar

    Oops! Didn’t work!
    🤣

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar
    MsDropbear425,

    @dgar We completely deny all innuendo about our fetish of dressing up as . What happens in the burrow, stays in the burrow!

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar
    jodmentum,
    @jodmentum@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar when my friends and I were in the Hunter Valley eons ago one saw a kangaroo and wanted to go over to pet it and the BnB manager was like, “Mate, it’ll split your ribcage in two with its paws.”

    enricov,
    @enricov@mastodon.nu avatar

    @dgar

    "A magpie may rarely attack by landing on the ground in front of a person and lurching up and landing on the victim's chest and pecking at the face and eyes."

    😲

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @enricov
    True. But only if you insist on bothering them. Like I said, if you give them space, they won’t maim and kill you. 😊

    enricov,
    @enricov@mastodon.nu avatar

    @dgar I need to show your post to my 12 year old son. He doesn't want to go to Australia because of all the dangerous animals.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @enricov
    It’s surprisingly safe here. In fact, before the eighties, we’d even leave babies just about anywhere because it is just that safe. We don’t anymore, because, y’know, dingoes, but yeah. Pretty safe.

    enricov,
    @enricov@mastodon.nu avatar

    @dgar I think the friendly people make up for all the dangerous animals. We had a great time when we visited, and we were included everywhere. Even me, despite being a somewhat introverted Swede.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @enricov we actually love Vikings.

    enricov,
    @enricov@mastodon.nu avatar

    @dgar You need to stop naming more dangerous creatures now until I've showed the post to my 12 year old 🤣🤣🤣

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @enricov
    lol. Your 12 year old has been safe from dingoes for 11 years now! 😂

    AnnonBudgie,
    @AnnonBudgie@theblower.au avatar

    @dgar @enricov magpies also talk to each other!

    If one magpie takes a dislike to you, then the entire magpie community is likely to dislike you!

    AnnonBudgie,
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    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @AnnonBudgie @enricov
    What an astounding story and an amazing little mathematician.

    ThePiper,
    @ThePiper@bytetower.social avatar

    @dgar this is a complaint from the Lion PR department.
    Hippos kill more humans than lions and they aren't as cuddly.
    🤣
    The other reassuring story out of Africa is that ostriches can also disembowel you. But running away doesn't help. They run too fast and use one foot so you need to lie down and then all the bird can do is jump on you. Reassuring as I said.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @ThePiper
    How many lions do hippos kill? 🤭

    ThePiper,
    @ThePiper@bytetower.social avatar

    @dgar Ah! Ambiguity! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @ThePiper
    But yeah. Hippos. Slow, friendly, and docile? No, they’re not that.

    mmdolbow,
    @mmdolbow@mapstodon.space avatar

    @ThePiper @dgar I'll chime in from the bear PR department: only brown bears (grizzlies, etc) are particularly dangerous. Black bears are more like said Aussie fauna; leave them alone and you'll be good.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @mmdolbow @ThePiper
    Still waiting to hear from a Polar Bear PR rep.

    red_rooster,
    @red_rooster@sueden.social avatar

    @ThePiper @dgar

    I think the story is different:

    The Lions PR invested a lot of resources in building a reputation of being dangerous.

    And hippos PR did a lot to lull their victims to safety in order to be more successful as hunters.

    And now you turn up and spoil all their efforts.
    😝

    Weanerdog,
    @Weanerdog@c.im avatar

    @red_rooster @ThePiper @dgar

    Hippos don't hunt. They kill you cause they are arseholes. They eat grass.

    Crocs will, however, eat you. In case you found somewhere to get water they doesn't contain hippos.

    pmonks,
    @pmonks@sfba.social avatar

    @dgar Most dangerous animal in Australia (as measured by human deaths)?

    Cows. They’re not even native.

    SheepOverboard,

    @dgar

    There are exceptions...

    dgar,
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    ChrisPearce,
    @ChrisPearce@aus.social avatar

    @dgar indeed. Read a review of fatal snake bites a while ago. Most involved alcohol (and I don’t mean drunk snakes).

    BackFromTheDud,
    @BackFromTheDud@mas.to avatar

    @dgar ALL Australian animals are dangerous, even the sheep!

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @BackFromTheDud
    I mean, it wants to be dangerous….

    tarmoamer,
    @tarmoamer@est.social avatar

    @dgar @BackFromTheDud Just don’t let them get wet.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar
    BackFromTheDud,
    @BackFromTheDud@mas.to avatar

    @dgar Yeah, what you don't see is the machine gun it's hiding behind its back 😂

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @BackFromTheDud oh, no, you’re thinking of Quakkas. Pure evil.

    HisFavBrunie,

    @dgar @BackFromTheDud awww its the rat!

    HisFavBrunie,

    @dgar @BackFromTheDud its claws unleash death😂

    till,

    @dgar

    I'm curious now.
    When I visited my uncle on Zanzibar, we had two important survival rules:

    1. If a door opens away from you, open it carefully and before (not while) you are going through. If you don't, there is a (small) chance of waking a venomous snake by dropping it on your head.
    2. Before putting your shoes on, put it upside down and shake it, so if a venomous spider has mistaken it for a burrow, it will fall out instead of biting your toe.

    Are there similar rules in Australia?

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @till Shaking out your shoes before putting them on is always a good plan and popular advice here.
    Snakes on doors? Not so much.

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    @Jakra
    It’s so pretty!
    Yes, it could literally be the last thing you ever pick up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_snail

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    Christo,

    @dgar
    My nephew lives near the rainforest up by Cairns. He is an entomologist. You haven't mentioned snakes 😉

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Christo
    I mentioned snakes and spiders. I lived in Cairns while in High School. I don’t remember too much trouble with snakes. They tend to avoid people and most people can easily outrun a snake. Flash floods and landslides were the biggest dangers I remember from Cairns. Cassowaries live around those parts too, and they are scary.

    smurthys,
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    dgar,
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    DJDarren,
    @DJDarren@mendeddrum.org avatar

    @dgar What about Drop Bears though. Fuck those things.

    Tooden,
    @Tooden@aus.social avatar

    @DJDarren Vegemite behind the ears, mate. @dgar

    dgar,
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    dgar,
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    gerowen,
    @gerowen@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar Your wildlife only attacks idiots that get too close? America has plenty of those, lol.

    https://youtu.be/1-lcudRQQVQ?si=uf1TnZxN-8U8YWvr

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @gerowen America also has stuff that will hunt you down though. Nothing really does that in Australia.

    gerowen,
    @gerowen@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar That's true. Mountain lions have even been known to pick a target, like somebody who runs every day, learn their habits and route and choose an appropriate spot to attack. Bears are bad too because they're not like most predators. A mountain lion or a wolf or something will kill you "then" eat you. A grizzly bear though will just straight up pin you down and eat you alive.

    We joke about Australia, but every country has some messed up animals if you pay attention.

    KatS,
    @KatS@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @gerowen
    NZ only has katipo, which are basically redbacks that wanted less-crowded beaches. Other than humans, they're it.

    However, in both NZ and Australia, the creepie-crawlies are really just decoys. It's the countryside itself that'll kill you.
    @dgar

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @KatS @gerowen
    A Weta might crawl out of your sunvisor while you’re driving…

    KatS,
    @KatS@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @dgar
    Isn't that more of a huntsman trick?

    I have heard of tree wetas leaping onto people, causing them to soil themselves, but they're not directly dangerous to humans.

    Granted, that changes when you factor in second-order effects, that is, damage incurred due to any leaping, whirling and screaming in fright. Especially if you were (past tense) in control of heavy machinery at the time. They may be harmless, but they do look terrifying.
    @gerowen

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @gerowen @KatS
    Yes, I can confirm that Huntsman Spiders do use this one little trick.

    afif,
    @afif@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar @aulia what about dropbears tho

    dgar,
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    Soupy51,
    @Soupy51@mastodon.online avatar

    @dgar
    You lost me at disemboweling.

    Cocaine Kangaroo is probably a thing.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Soupy51 Cocaine Kangaroo would be harmless, and a very boring film.

    KatS,
    @KatS@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @dgar
    True. However, it'd be a different story if you fed some Bundy OP to a boomer :)
    @Soupy51

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Soupy51 @KatS
    As a kid in the bush we had a few adopted joeys. I particularly remember two eastern grey bucks and a pretty-faced wallaby doe that grew up to be basically tame. One of them had a taste for beer and would take any unguarded stubbie at any opportunity. He’d get drunk and sleep for hours. We didn’t deliberately feed him beer and tried to keep it from him, but during outdoor barbecue parties into the night in the Australian bush, sometimes it happened.

    KatS,
    @KatS@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @Soupy51
    You jest, but...

    A while back, somebody solved the mystery of crop-circles in Tasmania when they spotted an unconscious wallaby beside one.

    See, there are poppy plantations down there, to supply the hospital painkiller industry. Plants don't understand fences, so the roads are lined with medical-grade poppies.

    Fences don't slow wallabies down much, either.

    Turns out some of them were getting into the poppy paddocks, filling their bellies with these delicious flowers, getting monged out of their tiny little brains, then hopping around in a circle for hours until they passed out.

    Eventually they'd wake up and bugger off, leaving a ring-shaped WTF for humans to puzzle over.
    @dgar

    VinesNFluff,
    @VinesNFluff@kitty.social avatar

    @dgar I once had a different aussie tell me that the real worry with Australian aminals isn't "they'll kill you", it's the property damage they can cause, and how it's usually the "harmless to human" creachers doing the property damage.

    Never checked if true and I live pretty far away from Australia, so...

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @VinesNFluff
    Termites. Mud Wasps. Introduced species like Rabbits and Cane Toads. We officially went to war with the Emus on behalf of frustrated farmers.

    maudenificent,
    @maudenificent@aus.social avatar

    @dgar @VinesNFluff

    expert on the abc radio once was talking about the folly of Australians building in a termite zone
    interviewer: where are the worst areas?
    expert: the whole country

    Kirsty,
    @Kirsty@theblower.au avatar

    @dgar I think Tourism Australia might have a job for you!
    This is 100x better than “where the bloody hell are ya?”!

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Kirsty 😂

    Steve,

    @dgar agree up to swim where the locals swim. Marine jellyfish send people to hospital every week over the warmer months. Locals may think it will never happen to them, until it does. Definitely do not want to be playing chance with the invisible stingy jellyfish (some of which can and do get into the “protected swimming nets”)

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Steve yeah. Jellyfish tend to be seasonal, so local knowledge has some value, but the best tourist advice is to stick to swimming pools.

    ariaflame,
    @ariaflame@masto.ai avatar

    @dgar @Steve I was in Cairns a few years back and the guy talking about the saltwater crocodiles said it's usually the locals that get eaten because they get complacent.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Steve @ariaflame
    That’s why you swim with the locals. They already know where they get eaten, because they’ve been eaten. Or just stick to pools. 😂

    Steve,

    @dgar @ariaflame yeah I’d never swim up near cairns, so many stories of dogs getting taken. Their little lagoon right on the coast in town is a very, very good substitute. Much better than the beach, no bitey things, no stingy things.. 😄

    Urban_Hermit,
    @Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social avatar

    @dgar @Steve @ariaflame even though this post started like "don't bother them, they won't bother you" this whole thread has put me off Australia. I don't want to look at a beautiful, empty beach and say, "we won't go there, anybody who has has gotten eaten. Let's find a place to swim where we can crowd up against strangers, less chance of getting picked off".

    It is not the place to "get away from everyone".

    Steve,

    @Urban_Hermit @dgar @ariaflame ha ha, sorry but gotta laugh. The same has gotta be said for other countries yeah. Bears, Coyotes, Tigers, Elephants, Snakes, Mosquitoes, Seals, Sharks.

    No matter where you go, there’s an element of danger. It’s more about knowing the risk, and knowing what to look out for.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Urban_Hermit @ariaflame @Steve
    Also, Australian population density averages at around one person per square kilometre. Few places are actually “that” crowded.

    andrewfeeney,
    @andrewfeeney@phpc.social avatar

    @dgar I’ve lived in Australia my whole life and I’ve never once been disemboweled by a kangaroo.

    KatS,
    @KatS@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @andrewfeeney
    Survivorship bias is a hell of a drug 😛
    @dgar

    andrewfeeney,
    @andrewfeeney@phpc.social avatar

    @KatS @dgar Oh, I mean, I lost a few brothers and sisters along the way, but that was necessary in order for me to escape.

    wendinoakland,
    @wendinoakland@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar Don’t go bloody barefoot in oz

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @wendinoakland
    Plenty of Aussies do. 😁

    maxthyme,
    @maxthyme@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar I notice you didn't mention drop bears, or blue ring octopus, pretty suspicious if you ask me.

    The spiders bit is totally true though, odds are if it's too big to ignore it's a huntsman, they're big goofy cheetahs that are only dangerous to anything smaller than they are, you can just let them out into the bushes or ignore them and let them kill stuff for you.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @maxthyme The list is long. I didn’t mention stonefish or platypus either, but stay out of the water, don’t attempt to pat, or catch, and you’re usually golden.

    maxthyme,
    @maxthyme@mastodon.social avatar

    @dgar Fricking egg laying milk sweating electrosensing mammal-adjacent critters shouldn't be venomous on top of everything, ok, it's just weird, like someone random rolled every aspect of a character and ran with it.

    miguelpergamon,
    @miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social avatar

    @dgar
    Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment still unable to control the Dgar population.
    Advises caution if approached by one.

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @miguelpergamon
    Just walk away. Dgar tend not to give chase.

    Sir_Osis_of_Liver,
    @Sir_Osis_of_Liver@beige.party avatar

    @dgar

    Dunno, man. I've never tipped my boot over and have a polar bear fall out of it.

    Also, gympie-gympie. I mean, What the hell?

    🙂

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Sir_Osis_of_Liver
    Oh yeah. Gympie-gympie.
    Don’t touch that.

    Urban_Hermit,
    @Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social avatar

    @dgar @Sir_Osis_of_Liver I had not heard of this one before. The first sentence in Wikipedia, "...commonly known in Australia as the suicide plant.." did not disappoint. That honestly makes Texas sound safe.

    deirdresm,
    @deirdresm@hachyderm.io avatar

    @Urban_Hermit @dgar @Sir_Osis_of_Liver

    The Australia entry in h2g2 is worth reading also: https://h2g2.com/entry/A12295

    dgar,
    @dgar@aus.social avatar

    @Urban_Hermit @deirdresm @Sir_Osis_of_Liver An excellent and accurate entry.

    wonka,
    @wonka@chaos.social avatar

    @Urban_Hermit Unlike firearm-bearing Texans, that plant usually is immobile.

    @dgar @Sir_Osis_of_Liver

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