Codeberg, to stackoverflow
@Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de avatar

Anyone considering how to break the #StackOverflow #monopoly already? Any #federated alternative work in progress?

blaise,
@blaise@hachyderm.io avatar

@Codeberg
is really sweet to host and it has a vast plugin community.
https://www.discourse.org/plugins

And themes to control what fields to expose
https://meta.discourse.org/c/theme/61

Fwiw, some of the discourse devs were in the original stack overflow team.

Nonilex, to internet
@Nonilex@masto.ai avatar

will hear oral arguments Mon in 2 cases that could transform how operate — w/sweeping consequences for a host of & efforts to regulate the .
The court is reviewing passed in & intended to address allegations that companies viewpoints by imposing limits on whether firms can block or take down .


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/26/supreme-court-social-media-netchoice-texas-florida/

Nonilex,
@Nonilex@masto.ai avatar

is likely to decide the cases by June, in the critical months ahead of the .

experts warn that either argument could lead to outcomes that would be deleterious for . If the court rules in favor of the companies, the industry could argue that the 1A precludes a broad array of proposed . If the states win, govts across the country may push ahead w/rules that give states unprecedented over .

Daojoan, to random
@Daojoan@mastodon.social avatar

It's time to ditch the chaos of Slack and Discord communities and make a return to the organised, focused world of forums.

They aren't obsolete.

They aren't real time.

They just fucking work.

havn,

@Daojoan Do you (or anyone seeing this) have advice for platforms to use, though?

I'm looking into starting two different things atm:

  1. A Facebook group for around 20 people living in the same building.

  2. A Discord server for supporters of my local football team. (Maybe a couple hundred people?)

But I really don't want to use those platforms... https://www.discourse.org seems perfect - but $50/$100+/month is waay too much! 😔

#Discourse

josh, to Matrix
@josh@josh.tel avatar

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  • boris,

    @josh it’s something we might consider for #CoSocialCa (and have the ability to one-click run through #Cloudron)

    But! Having accounts separate from Mastodon is a challenge. Twice the moderation!

    We’ve got our members forum on #Discourse and have enabled login with Masto accounts.

    Do you know if / how Matrix can be enabled with Mastodon as SSO?

    cc #CoSocialTechOps lead @mick

    ploum, to random
    @ploum@mamot.fr avatar

    In other news, Discourse, the free forum platform, is now joining the Fediverse.

    Yep, Discourse forums will become compatible with Mastodon!

    https://meta.discourse.org/t/activitypub-plugin/266794/116

    aeinstein,

    @ploum

    #Discourse, you mean the org using cloudfront.net (AWS), a tool to gather lots of personal data and make the Internet a capitalist private network infrastructure for its website?

    What a huge progress for a free distributed world we can trust, for sure!

    hrefna, (edited ) to random
    @hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

    I have maintained, and continue to maintain, that my concerns about #Meta and the #Fediverse have nothing to do with threads as such and everything to do with how they act around the protocol.

    Them releasing a client or a server would be very, very bad news in this space. Them running a multi-tenant (or multi-single-tenant) setup would be very, very bad for the fediverse.

    Their presence on a single domain just doesn't say or do all that much in the grand scheme of things.

    phiofx,

    @hrefna my two cents: chasing the dwindling former twitter addict pool (which seems to be the meta/threads objective) is not the future of the #fediverse.

    Its unique appealing proposition is not social media as we have come to dislike, but it is the federation of very diverse types of servers where people create real and lasting value. Think e.g., all these important #discourse communities.

    Imho the protocol(s) should leapfrog to the desired end state and leave the mastodon era behind.

    h30x, to random French

    Je suis à la recherche d'une manière d'intégrer un agenda à un site web, mais j'ai pas mal d'exigences :

    • l'outil doit pouvoir gérer un agenda 'statique' dans plusieurs formats :
    • page html "calendrier" statique avec des cases et des liens cliquables pour les événements
    • page html "liste" statique avec une liste de jour et la liste d'événements par jour
    • fichier ics / caldav statique permettant la synchronization dans les applis d'agenda (nextcloud et autre)

    (1/2)

    h30x,

    Pourtant il y a plusieurs grosses instances qui pourraient accueillir beaucoup d'événements :
    https://mobilizon.extinctionrebellion.fr/
    https://rencontres.monnaie-libre.fr/
    https://mobilizon.fr/
    mais juste ça marche pas, ça demande trop de temps de saisir les événements.

    Les deux solutions qui marchent le mieux dans ce que je connais c'est https://monnaie-libre.fr/#agenda qui utilise en backend. Tout le monde peut publier des événements géolocalisés et datés, en intégrant un système de conversation.

    (1/2)

    veloren, to random

    We are thinking of potentially moving development from Discord to another platform (Discord would remain as a community platform).

    Do you have any recommendations for platforms and reasons why?

    Examples of potential options are Discourse and Mattermost

    sbb, (edited )

    @veloren I've used Mattermost and Discourse a lot myself.

    Mattermost makes sense when you want to use it like Slack - the thing it's a clone of. It's best used when you have little teams/subgroups of people tackling certain medium- to long-persisting areas of development or work, which are organized into "channels". Channels are sort of like "mega-threads." Each of these channels/mega-threads has a system of permissions on it as to who's allowed in, "pinned" posts, etc. The included "Boards" (kanban board feature) is additionally like Trello - great for making todo lists and tracking tasks, with comments, etc.

    Discourse makes sense when it's a bunch of disjoint, random little questions about anything and everything (you know, "threads"), and there isn't any sense of coordinated teamwork.

    Of the two, I prefer team server, because it's more lightweight (written in , will run even on a 4), and has a decent App with push notifications. has a less likeable mobile experience, IMHO.

    Mattermost is for people who need to get a larger project (comprised of many sub-projects) done. Discourse is just for bantering forever on some broad, wide-open area of discussion, never converging on anything.

    pallenberg, to mastodon
    @pallenberg@mastodon.social avatar

    Fuer alle, die euch sagen wollen, dass #Mastodon gescheitert und/oder eine Geisterstadt sei.... dies sind die Interaktionen und Benachrichtigungen der letzten 21h auf meinem Account.

    Fuer mich der Beweis dafuer, dass man nicht immer da sein muss, wo der vermeintliche #Zeitgeist ist!

    Schoen, dass ihr hier seid, auch wenn es ja so wahnsinnig kompliziert ist diese Plattform zu nutzen 😁

    Screenrecording der Tusky App und ich scrollw in einer Tour durch meine Benachrichtigungen. Bis die Musik aufhoert.

    kaffeeringe,
    @kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.de avatar

    @pallenberg @buckaroo Ich bin ab und zu im OpenStreetMap-Forum. Das basiert auf #Discourse und ist eine lebendige Community, die genau ihren Zweck erfüllt. Aber es hat keine 100 Mio User. Also sollte man es lieber schließen.

    danluu, to random
    @danluu@mastodon.social avatar

    As a follow-up to https://mastodon.social/@danluu/109798007902048311, I wonder why there isn't a serious, well-funded, attempt to create a modern forum

    If you look at Wikipedia's list of forum software, it's all ancient except discourse, and discourse seems unlikely to ever be something great for users

    Its performance is famously terrible. People often point out how unusable it is unless you have a fast phone and the founder's response to this has been to rant about how Qualcomm sucks and need to make faster processors

    devnull, (edited )
    @devnull@crag.social avatar

    @jernej__s @danluu we could spend more time and energy on getting on Wikipedia (and maybe we should!), but it left such a sour taste in my mouth that I just haven't wanted to consider it for the past ~8-9 years.

    #Discourse filled a niche at a good time. It got endorsement from high profile devs and got cool funding, lots of buzz, etc. All the power to them.

    A year or two later we just decided to build a good product and let it speak for itself. What's more #foss than that LOL

    eloquence, to UX
    @eloquence@social.coop avatar

    I dislike a few aspects of the #Discourse forum #UX, especially the relentless gamification of banal user actions ("Congratulations, you just made your first poop") and its approach to categories.

    I have to admit, though, that it also gets many things right, which you only really notice if you spend a lot of time with a Discourse forum. The read/post experience is quite relaxing, and the UX for keeping up with new new posts, notifications, etc. seems solid.

    happyborg,
    @happyborg@fosstodon.org avatar

    @eloquence after a while the annoying badges tail off but it would be nice to be able to disable this at sign up as it is a pain in each new forum when you've been using it for almost a decade.

    Another annoyance is still flagging posts as unread when it's a reply from someone you set to ignore. Handling in that area is pretty poor actually.

    Otherwise it is fantastic, so I'd still choose #Discourse forum softwares over anything else.

    gael, (edited ) to matrix French
    @gael@mastodon.social avatar

    NOT taking into account privacy aspects, what is the best UX experience for individual and group discussions? 🤔

    @telegram @signalapp
    @matrix
    WhatsApp
    Other?

    islamicaudiobooks,
    @islamicaudiobooks@mastodon.social avatar

    @gael @telegram @signalapp @matrix Useful easy to follow discussions are difficult without threads/topics like #discourse forums or even email threads. I heard #Matrix or #Element supports or will support threads but haven't encountered them in any groups yet.

    smallcircles, to fediverse
    @smallcircles@social.coop avatar

    Today's question for a resilient #Fediverse is whether various different initiatives are willing to collaborate and cross-pollinate, while keeping their independence.

    There's great opportunity to increase the cohesion of the #GrassrootsFedi #ActivityPub developer community and creating strong joins:

    1. @w3c #SocialCG working on #OpenStandards improvements

    2. @fedidevs documenting existing fedi

    3. #FEP process on @Codeberg

    4. #SocialHub as forum

    5. @dansup #FediDB

    https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/ideating-organization-structure-for-the-grassroots-fediverse-wiki/3037

    smallcircles,
    @smallcircles@social.coop avatar
    ttpphd, to Youtube
    @ttpphd@mastodon.social avatar

    My Favorite Online Discourse
    by Big Joel (on Little Joel channel)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHtd0rcPBjw

    When I see USian or the like I will never not think of this video.

    #Youtube #discourse

    kuketzblog, to community German
    @kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

    Für Diskussionen zu den Themen IT-Sicherheit und Datenschutz bitte hier entlang. 👇😉

    https://www.kuketz-forum.de/

    #community #security #sicherheit #datenschutz #privacy #forum #discourse

    goinfawr, to movies
    @goinfawr@mstdn.social avatar

    The short rules of civil discourse:

    "Listen. Think. Respond."

    Donald Sutherland in "A Pirate's Passage."


    ttpphd, to Israel
    @ttpphd@mastodon.social avatar

    Josh Marshall shares his thoughts about the narrative of power in the Israel-Hamas war. Gift link.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/history-and-enthusiasm/sharetoken/Pk3ljnRDYkFM

    "Deficiencies of power in the present are compensated with claims of grandeur and power in the future. This is one of the many reasons why the stronger power usually has to take the first step. Resolving things requires setting most of those narratives and aspirations to the side to arrive at some way to live together in the present."

    avldigital, to Women German
    @avldigital@openbiblio.social avatar

    for the "Imagining Italy: Space, and in ’s Writing 1789-1914 // L’Italie sous la plume des femmes : espace, , 1789-1914", which will take place at the University of Lorraine () on November 7 and 8, 2024.

    🗓️Deadline for Abstracts: March 31, 2024

    📌Further Information:
    https://avldigital.de/de/vernetzen/details/callforpapers/imagining-italy-space-gender-and-discourse-in-womens-writing-1789-1914-litalie-sous-la-plume/ @litstudies @italianstudies

    ttpphd, to linguistics
    @ttpphd@mastodon.social avatar

    Speech Acts
    Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

    "Recognition of the significance of speech acts has illuminated the ability of language to do other things than describe reality. In the process the boundaries among the philosophy of language, the philosophy of action, aesthetics, the philosophy of mind, political philosophy, and ethics have become less sharp. "

    https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2017/entries/speech-acts/

    #Speech #Linguistics #Philosophy #language #discourse

    ljrk, to random
    @ljrk@todon.eu avatar

    TIL, although I don't like the #Discourse forum software much, it does allow subscribing to topics via RSS by appending .rss to the topic URL, e.g.:

    https://community.frame.work/t/responded-firmware-security-csme-version/23450.rss

    milan, to random German
    @milan@social.tchncs.de avatar

    hm. if i see correctly the #discourse docker image does not only just update all the gems, it also pulls discourse from the default (main) branch which does not look like a release branch ... well isn't that fun ... it also does not care about the ruby version defined in the discourse repo, which only is a .ruby-version.sample file using older ruby lol

    mcdanlj, to random
    @mcdanlj@social.makerforums.info avatar

    I'm happy to see three #Discourse sites I maintain on the new Discourse Discover page:

    https://discover.discourse.org/

    Want your Discourse community to join the list and help bring in new community members? There's a link at the bottom of the sidebar documenting how to join the party.

    goinfawr, (edited ) to movies
    @goinfawr@mstdn.social avatar

    The short rules of civil discourse:

    "Listen. Think. Respond."

    Donald Sutherland in "Pirate's Passage."


    jimmyb, to fediverse
    @jimmyb@selfhosted.cafe avatar

    Now this is a real hoot 🦉! #Lemmy #Discourse

    https://github.com/mrusme/neonmodem

    mcdanlj, to random
    @mcdanlj@social.makerforums.info avatar

    I just discovered this #Discourse plugin that I think could reduce the Maker Forums Discourse spam moderation problem by about 50%. There are a few ASNs which are responsible for an outsize proportion of our incoming spam...

    https://meta.discourse.org/t/geo-blocking-plugin/227824?u=mcdanlj

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