guygaechter, to Signal German
@guygaechter@chaos.social avatar

If you only read one article this year, it has to be THIS by @Mer__edith, the president of :

"AI is a marketing term, not a technical term of art. [...]
This is also why it’s imperative that we recognize mass surveillance – and ultimately the surveillance business model – as the root of the large-scale tech we’re currently calling “AI”."

https://www.helmut-schmidt.de/aktuelles/detail/die-rede-der-zukunftspreistraegerin

via

smallcircles, to Signal
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Meredith Whittaker president of @signalapp on announces will leave market if regulation by @EUCommission comes into effect.

MEP @echo_pbreyer for a long time is raising awareness of the pervasive -eroding nature of this regulation, which won't have its intended effect of protecting children.

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/majority-for-chat-control-possible-users-who-refuse-scanning-to-be-prevented-from-sharing-photos-and-links/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40551260

is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in how good regulation is followed by dystopic stuff, eroding trust.

leitmedium, to Signal German
@leitmedium@tldr.nettime.org avatar

Meredith Whittaker, Präsidentin der gemeinnützigen Signal-Stiftung, die hinter dem Messenger steht, hat angekündigt, dass Signal im Falle der Umsetzung der geplanten Chatkontrollen sich aus dem Europäischen Markt zurückziehen wird.

> »Let there be no doubt: we will leave the EU market rather than undermine our privacy guarantees. This proposal--if passed and enforced against us--would require us to make this choice. It's surveillance wine in safety bottles. To be clear--we will stay to the end. We stand with the people in Europe & their right to privacy, whatever the Commission does. But we won't comply with any mandate to undermine our privacy guarantees. And noncompliance would result in our being barred from the market.«

Das würde wohl vor allem bedeuten, dass die App nicht mehr über App Stores zur Verfügung steht und theoretisch noch manuell installiert werden kann, aber letztlich wäre es wohl das Aus von Signal in Europa. (Hatte die letzten zwei Worte ursprünglich vergessen).

Quelle:
https://mastodon.world/
Bericht dazu:
https://www.golem.de/news/ueberwachung-statt-sicherheit-wenn-die-chatkontrolle-kommt-wuerde-signal-gehen-2406-185659.html

Ooze, to Signal
@Ooze@aus.social avatar

Today I discovered that you can only edit a #signal message a maximum of ten times. I had been keeping a record of a series of events over a number of days and adding new info as it happened, hoping to be able to send a single message at the end, but it finally refused to commit an edit saying ten edits is the max.

funkybuddha, to privacy
@funkybuddha@mastodon.green avatar
fipaddict, to Signal French
@fipaddict@travelpandas.fr avatar

Avis aux militant·e·s de tous poils, j'ai besoin de conseiller un collectif (pas vraiment geek) qui a besoin de rester confidentiel

À part leur conseiller :

  1. de prendre des adresses mails dédiées (chez protonmail par ex),
  2. d'utiliser #signal,
  3. d'utiliser une instance Nextcloud pour leurs échanges de données (en se connectant avec les @ mails dédiées),
  4. de ne communiquer sur les RS qu'avec des cptes associés aux adresses créées ci dessus.

Quoi d'autre ?

pneutig, to Signal German
@pneutig@eupolicy.social avatar

Da die Frage immer wieder aufkommt, ob Signal für uns noch nutzbar wäre, wenn die durchkommt: nein. @Mer__edith bestätigt nochmal: eher würde sich aus dem EU-Markt zurückziehen, als die geplante Massenüberwachung von Nutzenden umzusetzen.
https://mastodon.world/

paoloredaelli, to Signal
@paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno avatar

#Signal Facing Collapse After #CIA Cuts Funding

So which are the free-as-in-fredom alternatives?

https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia

> On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat.

d8f38b894b42f7008305cebf17b48925654f22b180c5861b81141f80ccf72848, to Signal
@d8f38b894b42f7008305cebf17b48925654f22b180c5861b81141f80ccf72848@mostr.pub avatar

FYI for users:

Today my wife could not send messages because Signal has implemented captchas, and the captcha failed. Nothing would send without passing the captcha. The message was being sent to another Signal user who she's messaged before and is in her contacts. It was urgent, and she had to send via SMS to get the message through.

The "feature" and "safety" creep has turned Signal into something that doesn't do its only job. They would sacrifice function for the sake of treating us like spammers. You'd also think the years of metadata they have would be enough to get us on the "not spam" list.

We were already using other apps as our primary messengers, but this is really the final nail in the coffin.

surchaw, to Signal
@surchaw@mas.to avatar

If you're still using for most of your covos then know that it is high time you switch to something like https://signal.org/download/

THE ZUCK IS WATCHING

nikita, to Signal German
@nikita@social.tchncs.de avatar
_elena, to Signal
@_elena@mastodon.social avatar

Another week, another attempt to transfer my #Signal messages to a new iPhone.

I've got 30GB of data (reason: 3 years of baby photos + videos shared with family members 😅) and the estimated transfer time is 27 HOURS.

The 2 phones (old & new) need to be near each other, touching, with the Signal app open, for the entirety of the transfer. I've failed previous transfers by doing something as simple as turning off an alarm, ugh.

So I need to use a THIRD phone while this happens. Wish me luck!

MediaActivist, to Signal
@MediaActivist@todon.eu avatar

"There are two major benefits to using Signal. First, the messages are end-to-end encrypted, which means that Signal (the company) does not have access to them. Only you and the person on the other end can access the messages. This makes Signal different from texting and social media. Second, while you need a phone number to make an account, following a recent update, it is now possible to withhold your phone number from the people you message. This is very important for those who prefer to remain anonymous, because your phone number can be used to connect your messages to you." https://crimethinc.com/2024/05/27/the-sunbird-how-to-start-an-announcements-only-thread-on-signal-and-how-organizers-in-austin-used-one-to-coordinate-solidarity-with-palestine #Signal @Mer__edith

happyborg, to UX
@happyborg@fosstodon.org avatar

Even though I have chosen to disable notifications in @signalapp Messenger, it continually nags me to enable them.

That's in spite of:

  • my active choice
  • that notifications are a known security risk for those most in need of privacy

That's a dark pattern as well as bad #UX, which undermines my faith in the team and their motives.

#DarkPatterns #Signal

nikita, to opsec German
@nikita@social.tchncs.de avatar


Are privacy and the messaging app still secure

Every year this gets called into question, yet rarely is the full story ever told. In this video, Josh explains what's really happening with these privacy and security apps as well as how it affects YOU directly.

, 𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚙. 𝚍𝚊𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚗𝚣𝚎 𝙳𝚛𝚞𝚖𝚖𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚞𝚖 𝚒𝚜𝚝 𝚖𝚒𝚗𝚍. 𝚜𝚘 𝚠𝚒𝚌𝚑𝚝𝚒𝚐 𝚠𝚒𝚎 𝙰𝚙𝚙𝚜 & 𝙲𝚘.

https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=9ZLMDMk5rzk

sarahc, to Signal
@sarahc@mas.to avatar

A verybinterestin conversation with Meredith Whittaker, the head of Signal, the well known encrypted messaging app.

' I don’t think we can have a conversation about disinformation without having a conversation about the role of massive homogenous platforms that have cannibalized our media ecosystem and our information ecosystem in service of profit and growth for a handful of companies [TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X and YouTube]. '

#Signal #AI #SocialMedia

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/24/signals-meredith-whittaker-on-the-telegram-security-clash-and-the-edge-lords-at-openai/

signalappnl, to Signal Dutch
@signalappnl@mastodon.social avatar

Meta gaat je informatie gebruiken om hun AI te trainen, met alleen een omslachtig formulier als opt-out!

Makkelijker is het om gewoon al je Meta-accounts te verwijderen en @signalapp te gebruiken 👍

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/222240/meta-gaat-ai-vanaf-eind-juni-ook-op-data-van-europeanen-trainen.html

nikkasystems, to Signal Swedish
@nikkasystems@social.nikkasystems.com avatar

Polisen har igen råkat smutskasta den säkra meddelande­appen Signal. I SVT framfördes ett absurt påstående om att enbart kriminella använder Signal. https://nikkasystems.com/2024/05/30/signal-smutskastas-igen-av-polisen/

MediaActivist, to Signal
@MediaActivist@todon.eu avatar

"A lot of times we see these disinformation campaigns targeted at vulnerable communities in order to force them onto a less secure option and then subject them to surveillance and social control and other forms of harm that come from that type of weaponized information asymmetry...Telegram is a social media platform with DMs. Signal is a private communication service." Superb stuff, as usual, from Signal's Meredith Whittaker @Mer__edith https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/24/signals-meredith-whittaker-on-the-telegram-security-clash-and-the-edge-lords-at-openai/?guccounter=1 #Signal

RmDebArc_5, to privacy in What's the best messaging platform?
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would recommend looking at this site. My personal recommendation would be simplex chat. It’s decentralized, doesn’t require a phone number and supports forward secrecy.

Yishay, to Signal
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

so tired of #signal app. How can I criticize it when I’ve never used it I would like to use it. I would like to use it very much. However I don’t own a smart phone. Which means I can’t register a desktop app which intern means I can’t use signal as even trying to create a virtual I machine running, android to download the mobile app to register my desktop app. Which failed. I don’t care how much you improve it until you’re actually inclusive. Signal is not a good app. You might also want to think about who are the people they don’t have access to their own smart phone. Think about other ways for users to register without a smart phone please. (running macos desktop)

#crypto @signalapp #singalapp #telegram #security #digitalsecurity

Yishay,
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

@signalapp @Mer__edith
thank you everyone! what i have learned with your help about

  1. the signal company does not like poor people to have access to good cryptography tools. many people who do not have smart phones are not as privileged as western developers.
  2. lack of support for operating systems that are outside of the corporate two (iOS and Android). again lack of diversity makes signal lass available to those outside the mainstream.
  3. Signalapp does not support clients that are not made by signal. again reduces the accessibility to those outside the mainstream.
    if you care about secure communications i would think that you would care to have it available for all and not just those with more resources. adding the ability to not need a smartphone to use signal would make it accessible and much more secure. right now the easiest workaround is to borrow some ones smartphone. not so secure.

all the posts about how signal is so amazing read very tone def when many cant use it.
@eliasr @ti @nieral @tzafrir

kubikpixel, to Bulgaria German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

Deren Ausreden sind einfach nur plump und frech oder wissen die es wirklich nicht besser?!?? Nun ja, bis die mal selber deswegen betroffen sein werden…

»Verschlüsselung: Polizei will in Echtzeit an Datenströme von WhatsApp & Co.
Eine Informationsfreiheitsanfrage eröffnet Einblicke in die Arbeit der europäischen "Going Dark"-Expertengruppe, die das "Verschlüsselungsproblem" knacken soll.«

🤦 https://www.heise.de/news/Verschluesselung-Polizei-will-in-Echtzeit-an-Datenstroeme-von-WhatsApp-Co-9747785.html


#verschlusselung #eu #signal #goingdark #polizei #Verschlüsselungstool #chat

kuketzblog, to Signal German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Signal Messenger: Unter "Einstellungen -> Daten und Speicher" könnt ihr die Medienqualität für den Versand beeinflussen. Wird die Option auf "hoch" gestellt, wird das Bild nicht so stark komprimiert, wie in der Standardeinstellung. Benötigt dann natürlich mehr Datenvolumen.

pernillet, to Signal
@pernillet@mastodon.online avatar

Because it costs so much money to create and run AI models, tech companies will inevitably try to pay for them by selling our personal information, says Signal’s CEO #signal #ai #privacy

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/05/artificial-intelligence-meredith-whittaker-signal-telegram

_elena, to Signal
@_elena@mastodon.social avatar

I've just started transferring about 25 GB of #Signal data between my two iPhones (old → new)... which means they need to stay near each other, with Signal open, for the entirety of the transfer. I can't use either of them.

So I'll have a Google Pixel 4a as my main phone today. And! Since I can't use #Ivory or #IceCubes, I've just downloaded #Tusky. About to take it for a spin. Curious to see what the #Mastodon experience is like on #Android

If you have any recommendations, I'm all ears 🤗

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