183231bcb, to fediverse

What's the status of federation between Lemmy/KBin and Misskey/Sharkey/Firefish/Iceshrimp? I just tried loading several Lemmy and Kbin posts in Sharkey and it doesn't work. I remember having the same issue with Firefish, and I vaguely recall hearing awhile back it was something related to authorized fetch. Have their been any recent developments on that front?

reiver, (edited ) to random
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UX problem with Join-Lemmy.org

@fediverseux

“We need a better site to link to than join-lemmy.org. It should concisely pitch lemmy to everyday users and suggest an instance for them to sign up at. Don’t get into the weeds about federation or choosing instances or selecting apps. Just select a sane default and point people to it. Rotate defaults to avoid overloading a given instance or making it too powerful.”

https://lemmy.ml/comment/4353933

https://lemm.ee/post/9881418

reiver, to fediverse
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I have been trying out the Jerboa app for Lemmy.

I am having trouble bringing up communities that I know exist.

I try searching for them in different ways, yet it doesn't work.

I have had this experience with multiple communities.

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eblu, to fediverse
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shopping for / / instances—anyone have any recommendations?

db0, (edited ) to random
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The fediblock account is stopping operation because mastodon.art retaliated against their parent instance with silencing because of a credible report deduplication by @fediblock for .art , until the admin behind the fediblock account steps down from their own instance? And that admin is actually quitting the fediverse? WHAT?!

Mastodon has some wild drama I'll tell you... I'm glad I'm a addict instead.

reiver, to kbin
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By default Kbin doesn't turn on captchas for new user account registrations.

Kbin and Lemmy servers have had problems with bots creating accounts.

Having captchas off by default seems risky to me. And a potential headache for a new Kbin sysop who is still getting familiar with Kbin.

To create a better experience for Kbin sysops, is going to turn on captchas by default for Kbin servers.

(You can turn it off if you really don't want it.)

reiver, (edited ) to fediverse
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I have a new Kbin server.

I am going to document my experience as a new Kbin user and sysop.

Note that I already have experience as a Lemmy user & sysop. Some of that experience may be applicable here, too — but we will see.

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reiver,
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Logging into Kbin for the first time takes me here (shown in the screen shot).

The "/all" page.

reiver,
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You can get to the Kbin "Admin panel" from the menu that is shown when you hover your mouse over (or touch) your username in the top-right of the screen.

The Admin panel starts off by showing you a dashboard. But there are several other pages that make up the Admin panel:

• dashboard
• settings
• users
• pages
• federation

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reiver, (edited )
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I don't see a way to turn-off or restricting registrations in the Kbin admin panel.

I wonder if that is a feature that is planned — it seems to be a pretty common feature with Fediverse software nowadays. Lemmy has it, for example.

reiver,
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Kbin seems to support something called:

Mercure
https://mercure.rocks/
https://mercure.rocks/spec

I don't think I have ever heard of Mercure before, but —

There is a setting to turn it on or off in the Admin Panel (at "/admin/settings").

It was already on — so on by default it seems.

reiver,
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In the Kbin admin panel — there is a "settings" section.

There are 3 sections in the kbin admin panel's "settings" section:

• General
• Meta
• Instance

Both "Meta" and "Instance" have a field called "Title".

It is not clear to me what each of these is for, or what the difference is between them.

Although I realized — if you want the page <title> changed, you need to set Meta's "title". But then — what does Instance's "title" do?

reiver, (edited )
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BTW — it isn't clear to me how I should be casing the name of this software.

• kbin — with everything lowercase?
• KBin — with the "K" and "B" uppercase?
• Kbin — with just the "K" uppercase?

...

Originally I wrote it as "kbin". But now I'm seeing "Kbin" used. But I often write "KBin" because that is how I pronounce it.

reiver,
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In the Kbin admin panel — there is a "federation" page.

The only thing I see on the Kbin admin panel's "federation" page is what looks like an input field to add ban instance servers.

It wasn't clear to me how I should enter the information — comma separated, each on its line, etc.

BUT — once I started typing, it became obvious.

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reiver,
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In the Kbin admin panel — there is a "pages" page.

There are 5 sub-menu items on this page:

• About
• FAQ
• Contact
• Terms of service
• Privacy policy

None of them seem selected, so it is not clear which of those 5 pages (if any) you about to create or edit — unless you look closely at the path in the URL, and notice it is "/admin/pages/about" (rather than "/admin/pages").

I think it would be better to visually indicate which is selected.

reiver,
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In the Kbin admin panel — there is a "settings" page.

There are 3 sections in the kbin admin panel's "settings" section:

• General
• Meta
• Instance

At the top of the "General" section, it seems to give you the option of changing the Internet domain name for the kbin instance server.

...

What happens if you change that?

Will it break federation?

Will it stop responding to HTTP(S) request from the previous Internet domain name?

Is it just cosmetic?

reiver,
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@mrpresidenttom

Regarding:
"do you know if there's a phone app for it yet? I messed around with it back in the Spring but I primarily used reddit on my phone so I haven't really gone back"

I haven't tried it myself yet, but I've seen people talk about:

Artemis
https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp

There is also something called:

Tundra for Kbin
https://kbin.social/m/Tundra/t/396839/Tundra-for-Kbin

I don't know anything about it though.

There might be other Kbin apps, too.

stopthatgirl7, to kbin
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Y’know, I really wanted to like , and , but they really are as toxic as Reddit - the gaming groups at least.

It would be nice to find a gaming group that’s not infected with assholes, but I feel like that’s asking too much, because Gamers are the worst.

Altho it’s not just the gaming groups. There’s a level of nastiness I wasn’t expecting going in after being on Mastodon. Mastodon has the HOA and Well Actually mansplainers, but some folks are just dicks on the .

box464, to fediverse
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The administrators of BeeHaw are considering moving on from Lemmy to a yet to be selected platform, citing a multitude of issues with the current state of development on the Lemmy project.

https://beehaw.org/post/7776438

reiver, to kbin
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The Threadiverse already has Lemmy & Kbin.

But I think many people aren't aware of Prismo.

https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo

Prismo is a link-sharing sharing and aggregation platform similar to Reddit, Lobste.rs, and Hacker News.

I.e., similar to both Lemmy & Kbin.

Its development started back in June 2018. But it isn't ready for production yet. It also looks like its development stalled back in May 2019.

reiver, to fediverse
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"Twitter and Reddit may have only lost a few million users to Mastodon and Lemmy so far, but these are nation-sized numbers, comparable to what Scandinavia is to the United States of America. The incumbents have allowed the fediverse to reach critical mass. It's only gonna get bigger"

⸺ Erlend Sogge Heggen ( @erlend )

https://blog.erlend.sh/transitioning-r-rust-to-the-threadiverse

brome, (edited ) to random

Petit souci de fédération entre kbin/Lemmy et Firefish, je ne peux pas booster un post de type "lien" ici. Mais voici son URL :

https://kbin.social/m/filmsFr/t/417383/Animation-Le-nouveau-Miyazaki-le-Garcon-et-le-Hero-en

brome,

D'ailleurs, par curiosité, les gens sur Pleroma/Akkoma, vous pouvez voir les posts de type lien postés depuis kbin ou Lemmy ?

Parce que ça n'est pas possible depuis Firefish, mais ça fonctionne bien depuis Mastodon par exemple.

symfonystation, to kbin
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We are now on /kbin as Symfony Station. It is a Reddit-like Symfony-based link sharing platform on the Fediverse / Threadiverse. Please join and follow us at https://kbin.social/u/symfonystation We also moderate the Symfony Magazine. https://kbin.social/m/Symfony Follow it as well.

strypey, to fediverse
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Flarum has been funded by NlNet for a 2.0 release that includes federation. Rough ETA at this point is "next year":

https://discuss.flarum.org/d/32812-the-future-of-flarum-in-2023-balancing-open-source-and-success/45

I'm guessing the progress in ActivityPub support in Discourse and GitLab, and the emergence of threadiverse, will all be adding both motivation and complexity to the job of adding federation support to Flarum.

mikey, to random
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The is really going through some growing pains right now. Not only on the social front but in terms of development also.

Out of the 2 major projects, one has horrible mod tools and the other is still in beta with its own set of problems.

It is going to take a while before these 2 projects can really shine.

kritikaPensulo,
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@mikey Indeed the is a bit of an embarrassment (for lack of a better term).

has had yrs to improve & they still have fairly serious bugs like losing a whole msg if you click a button that intuitively should be clickable while composing. Kbin is a disaster out of the gate with copious chronic internal server error 500s that plague the system.

I must say I blame the web-based clients. They are just a shitty foundation relying on crappy .

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