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Secure decentralized messaging for all major platforms and then some. Reliable and instant by using fast and secure Chatmail servers, but also compatible with traditional email providers. Offering chat-shared web apps for fun and collaboration, end-to-end encrypted and without any server side hosting. Security-Audited multiple times, last in 2024. Chat over e-mail and head back to the future with us! Avoid xkcd927 :)

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Sounds like a bad joke joke but the EU governing council wants to once again legislate for it's 350 million citizens. According to @echo_pbreyer (EU parlamentarian) the legislation wants to force messengers to prevent users from sending images or videos unless they agree them to be scanned, AI-analyzed and potentially reported to police. They apparently want to bring it up for a council vote in two days and get it through parliament in June. German link https://www.patrick-breyer.de/lass-dich-ueberwachen-eu-rat-will-sich-auf-chatkontrolle-mit-zustimmung-der-nutzer-einigen/

delta,
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@delegatevoid @echo_pbreyer It is easy to bring lots of technical arguments why is a bad idea. But even if it were technically possible, it would be a catastrophic idea. No government should have an automated surveillance capability built into all private communications -- and images and videos are very much a core part of private communications. Pushing for such automated surveillance of private communications arguably surpasses Iran, Russia and other countries's control efforts.

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The delta chat group has now 48 members, all using guaranteed end to end encryption and several games and apps .... So far without a glitch, no "couldn't decrypt" errors, everything lightning fast, some people using multiple devices with their account, 30 people joining during live onboarding on day1 and using a editor together in the chat (cryptpad without a server basically). Seems like all the milestones of 2023 (guaranteed e2ee, web apps, chatmail) are ... Actually playing out ;)

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Today, we are unveiling chatmail services, making onboarding with a breeze, with peace of mind.

marks a major milestone, answering the practical question of "where can i get a deltachat-ready account" for myself and friends?

Read more on https://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail

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End-to-End encryption is one of the good things we have with the current internet and app ecosystems. But it is under constant threat -- be it from EU's , UK's "online safety bill" or the current renewed "EARN IT" effort in the US: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/earn-it-bill-back-again-seeking-scan-our-messages-and-photos ....
anyone of these efforts succeeding would be a dangerous dam break. Let's collectively make sure all these governmental anti-privacy efforts fail!

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Nice surprise! Thanks to @lk108 we now have "DeltaTouch", the Ubuntu-Touch/UBports version of Delta Chat! It's pretty usable already .... read more on https://delta.chat/en/2023-07-02-deltatouch about the journey of bringing Delta Chat to a non-Android/iOS mobile platform ๐ŸŽ‰

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If you like delta chat and know somebody experienced with iOS developments please send them our way, retoots welcome.

With all other platforms.we have at least two devs engaged but would like to up our iOS game .... Even advising on a day per week or case by cases or loose pro-bono basis could be helpful but someone who gets their hand dirty would be even better. Remote paid job available. For more background see https://delta.chat/en/2022-12-15-uidevjob and adjacent recent blog posts.

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Did you know that Delta Chat is the only mature, cross-platform secure messaging app that does not use or need a key server?

Signal, Matrix, Proton, Whatsapp all effectively operate key servers that reveal the cryptographic identity (a very strong identifier) behind an address.

Delta Chat uses decentralized specs and protocols that reveal your cryptographic identity only to those you choose to interact with. Nothing can be publically queried.

Background link: https://delta.chat/en/help#encryption-and-security

delta, to random
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We have reports from people for whom delta chat works while signal shows "no internet" ... Various states are throttling traffic all across the planet and you need to have a robust networking layer to provide service. Delta Chat is offline-first, ignores DNS outages, can be combined with Tor or Tails. It is trying to make live easier for people who are already in stress and need a reliable messenging experience. It is project practise to keep the least wealthily connected in focus.

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While we do have criticisms of its centralized architecture and other choices we highly regard Signal for ushering in a decade of popularizing end-to-end encryption. We particularly appreciate @Mer__edith doing excellent communication work there. It's disingenuous that tech-billionaires Musk/Dorsey fuel attacks on her and another female colleague, hinting at Telegram as a more secure messenger. Comparing security of Signal with Telegram simply results in "Type Error: incompatible arguments".

delta, to random
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While certain platform billionaires chatter about "everything" or "super" app architectures, we prefer to deliver and improve them -- say "Hi" to xstore@testrun.org :)

https://delta.chat/en/2023-08-11-xstore

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Reclaiming Peer-to-Peer Web technology with out of the ashes of "Web3": our 2024 opening post on the topic :) https://delta.chat/en/2024-02-15-webxdc-m3

Psst: we are looking for more folks experienced with Web app development with a knack for P2P technology ....

delta, to random
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Delta Chat is an in-between project: often ignored as a messenger by e-mail companies/experts and then ignored by messenger companies/experts because of its use and interoperability with e-mail. As Heinz von Foerster once said: "If you are doing something genuinely new then don't ask the experts. If you do something that has already been done, then, by all means, ask the experts." FWIW many experts have verified Delta Chat's security mechanics https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits :)

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just got four major usability improvements as the 1.44 releases are rolling out
๐Ÿ’— Reactions on all platforms
๐Ÿ’— iOS Push notifications
๐Ÿ’— Multi-account desktop sidebar
๐Ÿ’— share invite links via other messengers. Enjoy :)
https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-12-jumbo44

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The 1.42 app releases are rolling into the stores, providing a major security upgrade that was long in the brewing and testing: guaranteed end-to-end encryption, protecting against compromised servers or networks (MITM attacks). The releases also enable multi-device synchronization of pinned/accepted/blocked/muted chat states, a new global gallery for desktop and many bug fixes and little improvements .... https://delta.chat/en/2023-11-23-jumbo-42

delta, to random
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Delta Chat is not as popular as other messengers but with decentralized messaging it's not doing so bad, is it? Or which decentral messengers do you know that

delta, to random
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Delta Chat 1.38 releases: WebXDC apps can now exchange data with other tools and run on other messengers! We've implemented a little Calendar and Draw app to showcase the two new APIs and besides have other good news for the nascent privacy-guaranteeing Next-Generation-Internet ... just a "start" button for chat-shared apps with no GDPR or cookie-consents, no coins, no app or account hosting and thus no logins ;) https://delta.chat/en/2023-06-28-webxdc-import-export

delta, to rust
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From one of our wonderful translators: "I wanted to thank all developers of Deltachat for making such an incredible and simple multi-device supporting app! (Yes, I spent 2 days fresh-installing my double-booted main PC, so I really love all the time the multi-device backup option saved me!) You rock! ๐Ÿคฉ" .... Shout out to our friends at https://n0.computer/ who just published hole punch support https://github.com/n0-computer/iroh/releases/tag/iroh-v0.5.1 .... The lib we use for multi device setup in core

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Seems google/apple's push notifications services are regularly queried by state authorities for obtaining user data -- see this german article https://netzpolitik.org/2023/push-dienste-behoerden-fragen-apple-und-google-nach-nutzern-von-messenger-apps/ --
only uses apple's push notifications on iOS for "heartbeat" services -- to ensure the app can show messages for their user (and many users are asking for tighter integration). On Android, Desktop and platforms no push notifications are used or needed, also no heartbeat ones.

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Given the experiences of the last decade it's healthy to distrust tech if

  • it's mainly developed by a centralized power structure
  • the involved technology is very complex
  • there is coin or VC funding involved

has 1/100th, if even that, of what other popular messenging projects have in terms of moneys. But our distributed top-notch expertise in UI, crypto, networking tech and our federated collaborative practises across these concerns, try to make up for it ...

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The last 1.44 release round did not only contain a lot of UI/UX milestones but also 20 security fixes based on a deep analysis from Yuanming Song and colleagues of the Applied Cryptography group at ETH Zuerich https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

delta, to random
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How many people do you know that have lost their messaging history on Whatsapp or Signal, photos etc during mobile phone transitions or breakage or through other shenenigans?

With you can:

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"but e-mail !1!!!" Is probably still a number one objection from experts and power users who refuse to fathom that e-mail protocols are a viable option for instant messaging even if it demonstrably works, is fast and secure :) We'd be happy if someone engaged in a proper comparison with xmpp and matrix specs and impls, really the only three messenging protocols deployed and implemented at scale. (Can't compare that with Signal or WhatsApp which don't have wire specs!). https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/blob/main/standards.md

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Some in our communities are apparently having fun ... taking no sides ;)

(Credits: @matiu_bidule)

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WhatsApp introduces "ask meta ai" in the local chat search bar, and Slack auto-feeds messages to train their LLM robots https://eigenmagic.net/@NewtonMark/112455578857917485 ... Delta Chat is among the shrinking number of messaging applications that does not look at your data except to end-to-end encrypt it and send it over interoperable message transport servers chosen by yourselves and your contacts. ftw!

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