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just_a_frog, to threads
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Has anyone ever considered that Threads might actually WANT the fediverse around? If you look at the Epic vs Google thing and more importantly the plethora of EU regulations that try to force big tech into being more interoperable, break up monopolies and allow users to move away from forced defaults, being connected to a working fediverse (instead of destroying it) seems like a pretty decent insurance policy. You connect to a significantly smaller network that poses no tangible threat to you and is to a large degree made up of unmonetizable privacy and open source nerds anyway and you can then conveniently point to that whenever regulators try to claim you're being a monopolist.

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@basexperience

Yeah, I think there are a lot of possible interpretations and we can't really say for certain yet, but a lot of people seem to be honing in on and only willing to consider that surely Meta must want to destroy the fediverse. Sometimes "let's see where this goes" might just be the wiser outlook imo.

moshidon, to threads
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I really don't like what is doing

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@javitoro @moshidon

They're trying to build in Activity Pub so Threads users can connect to Mastodon etc in an opt-in way.
Nothing that would be seen as scary if any smaller actor were to do it. But because it's Meta and Meta is genuinely evil a lot of the times, people automatically assume it must be done with the worst of intentions. Which is a reasonable suspicion to have, but imo shouldn't go as far as pre-emptively pronouncing anything they do as obviously evil, when the actions itself give no such indications yet

just_a_frog,
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@javitoro @moshidon

Yes, I think the damage they can do is fairly limited at the moment. But they definitely should be scrutinized more than other instances and people should keep watch for if they try to pull anything shady at some point.

malwaretech, to random

Why doesn't Mastodon / ActivityPub have an equivalent of other platform's abilities for a post author to hide certain replies for everyone, or disable replies entirely? Someone on another platform brought this up and actually I'm curious

just_a_frog, (edited )
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@malwaretech

The main answer to that is probably "funding". Mastodon has like two full time developers who shoulder a lot of different burdens and thus new features only get implemented extremely slowly.

just_a_frog,
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@Xoriff @cchelberg @malwaretech

My bad. What I meant to say was two paid full time devs. I'm sure there are the occasional contributions from other people too. And there are some different people paid to work on the mobile apps as well I think.

eloquence, (edited ) to threads
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There's a common false dichotomy about : cut them off, or leave it to user choice.

I can't speak to other software, but Mastodon offers a third option: limiting Threads. This can be done for all users of a server.

  • You can follow Threads accounts after clicking through a warning.

  • You have to manually approve followers from Threads.

Note, however, that boosted posts will continue to appear in your home timeline:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26301#issuecomment-1868240966

just_a_frog,
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@eloquence @aburka

Apart from the "manually approving followers only from that instance" those measures also don't really seem to make sense on a user level anyway.
You can set it in your user profile that ALL accounts who want to follow you must be approved, which is already pretty useful of you don't want to be followed by random bots.

just_a_frog,
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@zav_

I think a baseline suspicion of anything Meta does is healthy. It just seems like it's more of a "Meta is 100% evil and whatever they touch is automatically and entirely beyond redemption" in a lot of cases imo.

Gargron, to threads
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If for whatever reason you never wish to interact with , you can personally block it for your account. This hides all posts and profiles from Threads, prevents anyone from Threads from following you, and stops your posts from being delivered to or fetched by Threads. Simply click the "Block domain threads.net" option on any Threads profile or post you see in Mastodon.

just_a_frog,
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@OrionKidder @fishcharlie @Oozenet @Gargron

And there are concerns to be had for sure. But the benefit and downside of an open standard is that anyone can participate in it. And the benefit and downside of a decentralized system is that there is no central authority to decide things for everyone. So the community and server admins will have to decide how to deal with that and inevitably come to different conclusions and that's what the fediverse is all about really.

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@IgorRock @BeAware @Gargron

I mean, that's not entirely true. If you profile is private and you allow someone on threads to follow you, meta will get your posts when they before couldn't. And they will also get data on who on Threads you interact with, which could possibly be cross-referenced with other data about you by data brokers.
So if you interact with threads, meta will get some additional info. And personally, I think it's unlikely they are already scraping, but all but guaranteed they will harvest the data they get from plugging into the fediverse.

So there is a clear additional risk, it's just blown a bit out of proportion by many people.

Gargron, (edited ) to random
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We're testing a couple new follow recommendation algorithms on mastodon.online, so if you have an account there, please check Explore → People and let me know if the quality of the results has improved for you.

just_a_frog,
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@NikoSan @Gargron

But the follow recommendations were already using an algorithm before. It's just a different one now (and a feature that's hard to implement without an algorithm).

just_a_frog,
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@NikoSan

You're right. An algorithm could one day be implemented in an unsuitable place/way. So how about we criticize it then when that is possibly about to happen and not when it's being used in an innocuous way. Algorithms are an extremely basic and essential part of most computing. Categorically railing against would be a bit like being mad at maths because bad people use it.

pallenberg, to random
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Ich habe das Gefuehl, dass wir jeden Tag min. 2, 3 Einschlaege dieser Art erleben.

Oder ist das nur mein persoenlicher Eindruck der und wie die Medien drueber berichten?

Ich bin wahrlich keiner, der schnell die Apokalypse verkuendet... aber wie soll das in 10 Jahren aussehen?

Ab wann geht uns denn wirklich der Arsch auf Grundeis? Das wird ueber Jahrzehnte schlimmer werden!

just_a_frog,
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@oliver @pallenberg

Point of no return für was denn genau? Im Schadensbegrenzungsmodus sind wir ja schon längst. Was wir jetzt schon haben ist ja schon schlimm und selbst wenn wir von heute auf morgen die Emissionen auf Null fahren würden, würde es trotzdem noch über die nächsten Jahre/Jahrzehnte erstmal noch schlimmer werden. Aber im Rahmen dieser Umstände könne wir uns halt noch immer zwischen einem schlimm, sehr schlimm und katastrophal schlimm entscheiden.

Free_Press, to Ukraine
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Residents of Kolomna are sharing a video of a long convoy of military vehicles heading towards Moscow

video/mp4

just_a_frog,
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@golong @Free_Press

Do we know who those belong to though? Might just as well be the Kremlin drawing in forces, right?

james, to random

Hello! If you spend your time complaining about CWs, save your energy, set them all to open by default in your mastodon settings. Easy peasy and no-one has to read your whinging 🥰

Settings > Preferences
Always show media
Always expand posts marked with content warnings

just_a_frog,
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@james

Sure, at the risk of randomly seeing pictures of gore/war crimes
/whatever, because you auto-opened anything.
Not gonna take a position on the whole CW debate, but as a solution to the issue it's obviously subpar.

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