Fediverse bots, beep boop

botwiki, (edited )
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar

So, are you making Mastodon/fediverse bots yet?

nickdrawthing,
@nickdrawthing@dice.camp avatar

@botwiki I keep meaning to, but life gets in the way!

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar
dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

OK, so I got this close 🤏🏾 to getting @videodreams posting again. It downloads images properly and assembles them into a webm video file. But it seems like Mastodon's updated something because now I'm getting the attached HTTP 422 error when trying to post the file.

Nice to know that the code still works, though! I'll have to come back and figure out how to play nice with Mastodon.

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

@halcy any thoughts on how to avoid this issue when posting media with Mastodon.py?

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

The great thing is, the lessons learned in fixing @videodreams and creating @himawari_wpac will give me a chance to do the upgrade to @blackjoy that I've been meaning to do for so long. Woot.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

Botwiki, a site I made 8 years ago to catalogue creative online bots and collect resources for making them, is celebrating its anniversary today.

https://botwiki.org/blog/eight-years-of-botwiki

j3j5,
@j3j5@hachyderm.io avatar

@stefan Congrats!!! Great site full of resources and interesting creators/bots! 🎉 🎉 🎉

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@j3j5 Thank you! And I mean it, I couldn't do this without creative folks like yourself, whose work I've wanted to celebrate and preserve.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

I reduced the posting frequency of some of the bots I've made recently, so if you've avoided them before for being too noisy, consider giving them a try now!

https://stefans-creative-bots.glitch.me

dalereardon,
@dalereardon@mastodon.social avatar

@stefan Since you are experienced with bots do you know of any way that still works to repost a Twitter timeline over here on Mastodon? Thanks.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@dalereardon I haven't really touched Twitter's API in months. If I remember correctly, the API for writing is now free, and you have to pay for reading? If that's the case, you might just have to scrape the data.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

heiseonline, German

Kommentar zu Musks Aboplänen: Der Selbstzerstörungsknopf für Twitter/X

Elon Musk will auf Twitter/X ein Abo für alle einführen, um Bots loszuwerden. Damit dürfte er vor allem Nutzer verprellen, meint Axel Kannenberg.

https://www.heise.de/meinung/Kommentar-zu-Musks-Aboplaenen-Der-Selbstzerstoerungsknopf-fuer-Twitter-X-9311695.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege

CyberGian,

@heiseonline Bin schon seit November 2022 nicht mehr auf Twitter, weil Musk meinen Twitter Account wegen einer Verlinkung zu Mastodon gesperrt hat.

elchverleiher,

@heiseonline Wieso lese ich eigentlich immer Murks? Irgendetwas muss mit meinen Augen sein.

heiseonline, German

Zwei Wochen nach Twitters Leselimit: Threads führt ebenfalls Limits ein

Bei Twitter hat die Begrenzung der angezeigten Beiträge für den jüngsten Exodus gesorgt. Gegen das wachsende Spam-Problem setzt auch Threads nun auf Limits.

https://www.heise.de/news/Zwei-Wochen-nach-Twitter-Threads-fuehrt-ebenfalls-Leselimit-ein-9219079.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege

florian,
@florian@mastodontech.de avatar

@heiseonline War scheinbar die letzten 17 Jahre kein Problem

smial,

@heiseonline

Der einzige SPAM, der mich auf Twitter nervt, ist die gesponsorte Werbung, die vo Elmo forciert wird...

stefan,
@stefan@gardenstate.social avatar

NEW BOT ALERT:

@AltTextHealthCheck monitors and reports on the percent of images with Alt text.

After checking it out let me know:

  1. Can I format the post better?

  2. Is hourly too often? What would be a good cadence?

botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar

@stefan @AltTextHealthCheck Nice! When you have a moment, would you be interested in adding it to https://botwiki.org/submit-your-bot?

stefan,
@stefan@gardenstate.social avatar

This bot is not yet open source but it could be.

ATM it monitors the federated timeline on mastodon.social but very easily this could monitor the local timeline of your own instance.

it runs on node.js and needs rights to write some text files.

If this is something you would used let me know.

tero,
@tero@rukii.net avatar

So much for #CAPTCHA#bots can do them quicker than humans • #TheRegister

"For distorted text fields, humans took 9-15 seconds with an accuracy of just 50-84 percent. Bots, on the other hand, beat the tests in less than a second with 99.8 percent accuracy."

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/15/so_much_for_captcha_then/

root42,
@root42@chaos.social avatar

@tero what about anonymity?

tero,
@tero@rukii.net avatar

@root42, I believe the APIs can be used to only request specific datums, e.g. not request anything else but proof of humanness. If in some country that's not possible, which would be surprising, there can be a trusted platform provider who only relays attestation that a person is human.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

A pair of new bots to liven up your home feed!

🐻 @bearcam: videos from Katmai National Park in Alaska, frequently featuring bears
🐠 @TropicalReefAquarium: a view from inside of a tropical reef aquarium in Long Beach, California

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@bearcam @TropicalReefAquarium Typically I make bots that post only every 4-6 hours, but I figured since these are mostly live feeds, posting hourly makes sense? Easier to catch something interesting happening. Let me know what you think.

Also, a fun fact, adding these to https://botwiki.org brings the total number of bots on the site to 2,001 🎉

https://mastodon.social/@botwiki/110706654658864058

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@kaasbaas @bearcam @TropicalReefAquarium Yes, but this is more about how often do the people who follow the bot want it to come up in their feed.

You might like a bot, but only want to see its posts once or twice a day.

https://botsin.space/@nycviewsbot/110192924760686398

https://botwiki.org/resource/guide/the-definitive-guide-to-creative-botmaking/#post-frequency

Dorianix, German
@Dorianix@graz.social avatar

Es klingt wie ein Scherz, aber lösen mittlerweile besser als .

Behauptet zumindestens dieses paper:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12108

Dorianix,
@Dorianix@graz.social avatar

@publicvoit ein bissi wie die letzten Änderungen bei ChatGPT: der ultimative Turing Test ist es, wenn die KI die Mitarbeit verweigert und mehr oder weniger sagt: mach dir den Schweiß selber.
Das ist dann von menschlicher Intelligenz kaum noch zu unterscheiden ;-)

publicvoit,
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

@Dorianix Ein guter Maßstab. 👍

WXFanatic,

Good morning y'all

For those that weren't aware, IEMBot from Iowa State has come to the Fediverse officially. I'll leave it up to the bot maintainers whether or not they would rather continue running their own version which many of you are most likely already following.

Either way, the list of the bots maintained on the Fediverse by IA State can be found from the official site here https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/projects/iembot/#bots

I appreciate all the bot maintainers. Thanks for all y'all have done! ❤️🤗

WXFanatic,

RE: https://m.ai6yr.org/@WXFanatic/110814632427852371

I have updated the Mastodon links list to include a note on where to find said bots

https://rentry.co/wxlinks-mastodon

Big shoutout to @ai6yr and @lckrohjr for the instances beforehand as well as @akrherz and @GWESOfficial for the official migration!

technodad,
@technodad@cunnin.me avatar

@WXFanatic Don’t get me wrong, BTW: we all truly appreciate the work @akrherz has done to bring another instance of iembot feeds. If our X-perience has a lesson, we need multiple sources for critical information like IEM.

mozzie,

Created a new bot this week that posts questions and answers from Yahoo! Answers (2005-2021) every hour.

Check it out here: @am_i_pragnent

🔁 Boosts Welcome! 🔁

https://botsin.space/

mozzie,

@stefan Just submitted it.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@mozzie Thank you! I'll have a look later in the day.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

I opened a ticket in Mastodon's repo to implement Twitter's "automated by" label.

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/28994

Would anyone else find it useful?

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@thisismissem Got it, that makes sense.

Should I then be writing an RFC somewhere instead?

thisismissem,
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io avatar

@stefan for now not necessarily.. but otherwise a FEP would probably be the best approach

lydiaconwell,
@lydiaconwell@mas.to avatar

Is it possible to automatically mute bot accounts?

Because generally, I don't follow them. I like to mute the more jokey accounts that litter up everyone's feeds.

lydiaconwell,
@lydiaconwell@mas.to avatar

@dragfyre I suppose it would have to rely on bot accounts self identifying I suppose.

But most bot accounts are open about what they are.

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@lydiaconwell
> most bot accounts are open about what they are

If they're not, probably best to block them once identified, and maybe report them to the FediBlock folks too?

@dragfyre

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

A new is needed for my !

🤖 @xyzzy: Interactive text adventure that posts random scenarios.
🤖 @blackjoy: Images of black joy.
🤖 @pollbot: Random fedi polls twice a day.
🤖 @bahai: Regular quotes from the Bahá'í sacred writings.
🤖 @bahai: Digest of various Bahá'í news feeds.

There're a lot more, but those are the main ones.

Bahais_Mexicali,
@Bahais_Mexicali@mastodon.social avatar

@dragfyre yup

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

@Bahais_Mexicali Wow, that's amazing! Thanks for letting me know. Listen - if you wouldn't mind, could you let me know the names of all the people in the picture? That way I can annotate the picture, like I did in the video i just posted. If you find other photos like that, you can let me know about those as well :)

botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar
botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar

@schlauschlau @stefan Thank you!

NoraReed,
@NoraReed@mastodon.social avatar

@botwiki wow!

ViolaB, German
@ViolaB@mastodon.social avatar

Wie viele seid ihr hier?

Ist überhaupt noch jemand auf Mastodon aktiv?

ViolaB,
@ViolaB@mastodon.social avatar

@beandev es lebt! 🖥️💻🖨️🖨️🖱️!

beandev,
@beandev@social.tchncs.de avatar

@ViolaB Ganz sicher 🙂

TruthSandwich,

I don't require approval for accounts to follow me, but I do pay attention.

In the last couple of weeks, I've noticed a few non-genuine accounts that I've had to block. Keep an eye out.

TruthSandwich,

@alexgranford

I don't necessarily know what their game is. Presumably, they're hoping I follow them back so that they can inject their scams into my stream.

In other cases, it's quite likely a throwaway account created by someone I blocked for cause, allowing them to monitor me and calls brigades.

Either way, if they're not real, I don't want to deal with them. I just block and move on.

TruthSandwich,

@Hey_Beth @alexgranford

I hadn't thought of that. Back on Ex-Twitter, the goal was always to influence people (or cheat them or intimidate them), not to drive them off the platform and onto another.

ai6yr,
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar

LOL, p*rn bots over on the birdsite have suddenly started randomly replying to posts about who you should seek financial advice and get financial planning help. I think they're supposed to change their profiles BEFORE hawking a new line of products...

"Wait, why is this skimpily clad woman who was telling me to subscribe to this site full of dirty pictures now trying to recommend I sign up for a financial planner and wisely spend my money?"

(went over there to check on a quote from a meteorologist who has not come over here :-(

me_valentijn,
@me_valentijn@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr

She just wants to make sure that you can afford to wear more clothes than she can 🤗

ai6yr,
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@me_valentijn 🤔 🤪 (actually an army of poor young ladies who can't afford clothing over there, LOL... it's all crypt*-scammers, p*rn-bots, right wing boneheads, and people scrambling to go viral nowadays... more so than it used to be, that is).

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

Still waiting for the day that someone resurrects @hamiltonian.

cc @muffinista @stefan

aris_tgd,

@dragfyre @hamiltonian What does it do, compute the sum of your post's potential and kinetic energy?

dragfyre,
@dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net avatar

@aris_tgd hahaha no, it draws a hamiltonian path maze. e.g.:

https://botsin.space/@hamiltonian/102424533672389864

brunty,
@brunty@brunty.social avatar

What systems are people using for bot prevention these days? With captcha being mostly a pile of shite (and mostly bad for accessibility too), what alternatives are out there?

beausimensen,
@beausimensen@phpc.social avatar

@brunty I'm using Akismet for my forms. I haven't implemented custom spam/ham reporting yet but I want to. It's decent at detecting spam but isn't perfect. Better than requiring people solve problems, though!

brunty,
@brunty@brunty.social avatar

@beausimensen looking at things for detecting bots on account registration / login currently

jgamble,
@jgamble@fosstodon.org avatar

The vast majority of the automated accounts that I follow are on the botsin.space instance.

But I'm always wondering if there's something else to follow, and I can't seem to find a way to list the available.

Does have a way to provide a list of its bots?

refrag,

@jgamble It's not perfect, but go here and click "from botsin.space only"

https://botsin.space/directory

botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar
12pt9,
@12pt9@horrorhub.club avatar

@botwiki Hi, could you please remove the Twitter reference on https://botwiki.org/bot/selfhelp_ebooks/? It's exclusively on Mastodon now and uses https://cheapbotstootsweet.com/ (Tracery). Also, it currently doesn't generate feedback.

Thank you!

12pt9,
@12pt9@horrorhub.club avatar

@botwiki Thank you :)

botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar

@12pt9 No problem!

botwiki,
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botwiki,
@botwiki@mastodon.social avatar

@muffinista I'd definitely not make it a rule that alt text is required for image bots, people will just end up posting garbage, but maybe it would be worth mentioning that it's useful when signing up for a new account?

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