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feb,

Happy 14th Birthday !

Happy Birthday to the oldest fediverse server project that is still actively maintained. This marks the beginning of development of the Mistpark decentralised social network. We decided not to wait for "quit Facebook Day" in 2010 (May 31). We hit the ground running and haven't looked back. (Mike Macgirvin) 14th Birthday !

atomicpoet,
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Next month, mastodon.social should reach over 2 million accounts. That is, if current trends hold true.

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atomicpoet,
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Looks like has solidly returned to active development!

You can follow their progress by following @firefish.

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sn0n,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews does this mean migrating to that from akkoma is on the horizon?

atomicpoet,
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@sn0n @fediversenews I’m not migrating from Akkoma.

atomicpoet,
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Barack Obama (@barackobama) is on the Fediverse!

How cool is that?!

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barney,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews

Isn't that a Threads account, rather than one in the Fediverse?

atomicpoet,
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@barney @fediversenews I define the Fediverse as anything that federates with ActivityPub. And nope, this is not up for discussion. 😊

atomicpoet, (edited )
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So far, I’m not liking how Threads posts render on my Akkoma server.

Too much of it is no text – just a big ginormous paperclip.

And what is that paperclip? Well, when I click on it, it opens up a new tab to reveal… a screenshot of a Tweet.

All of this could be bloody avoided if Threads people put the contents of the tweet in their posts. Or even better, if Threads actually rendered these pictures in the post and put in alt-text as well.

I’d tell these Threads people how bad these posts look on the Fediverse, but none of them can see my replies. Thanks, @zuck!

(Also, if the link to the post doesn’t show up, don’t blame me. Blame Threads. You don’t need to click it anyway since I’m providing a screenshot of what I’m seeing.)

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RE: https://threads.net/ap/users/17841445114285241/post/18424180516023009/

randulo,
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@atomicpoet @zuck @fediversenews That enormously sucks.

mosseri,
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@atomicpoet @zuck @fediversenews replies are coming, but this image thing looks totally broken, will forward this onto the team

atomicpoet,
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A few influencers, active both on the “regular” Fediverse and Threads, have noted that having a Threads account hasn’t given them a bigger audience even though Threads has a bigger userbase than (for example) Mastodon.

Quite the opposite. There’s more visibility here. People are more likely to interact with your posts. It’s easier to gain followers as well.

None of this surprises me. There’s always been two types of people who build content for social media: those who engage with people, and those who game algorithms.

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julian,
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@damon That's super cool that you're working on something on that topic, Damon!

Have I ever shown you this blog post by @maya? https://maya.land/responses/2022/11/28/we-live-in-a-society.html It's been hugely influential on my thinking regarding this matter, and it does a great job highlighting consequences of algorithms and algorithm choice that aren't often talked about. Would recommend taking these thoughts into account as you clarify your own.

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damon,
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@atomicpoet Yes, Sora does algorithms very well. Memory will use a similar model but more user driven. I agree with your point about gaming the system bur I believe those people that attempt to do that on fedi would be blocked far and wide. Plus, of there’s algorithmic choice it’s not like everyone would come into contact with that persons posts

atomicpoet,
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A Fediverse service someone should build: daily digest emails that summarizes what happened across the Fediverse, and interesting things that popped up in your feed.

Why make it? Because if you’re away from the Fediverse for a period of time, emails are a nice way to get caught up.

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MariaLiv,
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@atomicpoet @Sh4d0w_H34rt @fediversenews Yeah, well I am sorry but I wouldn’t read those emails… I am drowning in emails as it is. 💛

jupiter_rowland,

@Chris Trottier Should be doable as a third-party Friendica add-on or Hubzilla app. Both already "federate" with e-mail anyway.

Since it's only out-bound anyway, it should be possible as a third-party (streams) app as well.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)

atomicpoet,
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So far, only 2,800 Threads accounts have turned on Federation. Of the ones I see, they’re quite active.

I suspect the reason for the minuscule federated accounts is because Threads users can’t see replies from the Fediverse yet. Why would you turn on federation if you’re oblivious to interactions from the Fediverse?

Nevertheless, we’ll see what happens once communication becomes two-way.

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nunesdennis,
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@newmanth @fediversenews The normal user probably dont know/care about federation

reiver,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews

There are also quite a number of steps to turn on federation for a Threads account.

https://mastodon.social/@reiver/112191768847355806

atomicpoet,
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The Fedipact table showing which servers are blocking Threads is not accurate!

For example, it says that atomicpoet.org is blocking Threads when, in fact, this is not correct. So view this entire site with skepticism.

https://fedipact.veganism.social/

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David,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews There aren't many things that are right with the .

tokyo_0,
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@atomicpoet That table isn't the official site. It's run by @nm If you check their feed, you'll see they've been offline for the past few weeks due to health issues. There are problably some updates that haven't been applied.

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atomicpoet,
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Just updated to the latest versions of Akkoma and Mangane and… WHAT?!

That’s a lot of emoji reactions to choose from!

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me,

@atomicpoet So, why the move from firefish, btw?

atomicpoet,
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@me @fediversenews I’ve been running this server since 2022, and it’s time to use it for my main account as well. Plus, it’s nice to just run things from my own server.

atomicpoet,
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This is beautiful. 😍

If you want to know why Truth Social looks like so much like other Fediverse software, it’s because it runs Mastodon with a Soapbox front-end. In fact, the creator of Soapbox, Alex Gleason, used to serve as Truth Social’s Head of Engineering.

So why did Alex Gleason leave? Because Soapbox received a grant from…

drum roll

…former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/truth-social-head-engineering-leaves-220000904.html

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atomicpoet,
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Now why did Alex Gleason receive a grant from Jack Dorsey?

To build the Ditto project for Nostr.

Oh yeah, and who builds the Mostr bridge that connects ActivityPub with Nostr? Alex Gleason.

Now I’ll tell you something funny. When Jack Dorsey was more active on Bluesky, he tried his damnedest to ignore all mentions of Mastodon, the Fediverse, and ActivityPub. Instead, he referred to it all collectively as other protocols and services.

It makes you really wonder about things, right?

tofugolem,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews
Wow, he must have figured out that Truth Social doesn't have a future because he's an insider!

Surely no one else has figured out that that place is a ghost town.

Pardon my sarcasm.

atomicpoet,
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Since migrating my old account to atomicpoet.org, which is an Akkoma+Mangane server, this is the first post of mine to go viral.

With 13.5K followers with this account (@atomicpoet), it’s been an eye-opening experience!

You see, I’m running this entire server with 1 vCPU and 2GB of RAM. With certain Fediverse software, this wouldn’t be feasible. With Akkoma+Mangane, it definitely is!

Now that’s not to say there aren’t drawbacks. There’s been genuine hiccups today with my server going down a few times. But after these momentary hiccups, my server rises to the challenge, and it’s business as usual.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that, post-migration, engagement might be going up. I can’t say precisely why this is the case, but I suspect one factor is that my domain (atomicpoet.org) is pretty memorable and a nice form of self-verification.

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RE: https://atomicpoet.org/objects/38540297-8066-4ce1-9c88-440a3e993b91

atomicpoet,
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A new version of Mangane (peaceful-panther) has been released!

You can now schedule post deletion! There’s also some tweaks to the UI, including a re-worked bottom navbar for mobile!

Big thanks to @clovis for all his work!

https://github.com/BDX-town/Mangane/releases/tag/peaceful-panther

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clovis,
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@atomicpoet @fediversenews you can see what is coming in the next release here too:
https://github.com/BDX-town/Mangane/milestone/9

atomicpoet,
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I currently have 13.5K followers on atomicpoet.org, and I’m running this server on 2GB of RAM. Despite, this, everything is clearly operational and running smoothly.

And if you want to know why this is a big deal, the more followers you have on the Fediverse, the more resources your server needs.

When I was running servers that weren’t Akkoma+Mangane, using this little RAM with this many followers was unthinkable. Mind you, this is one day after my migration happened – so there’s lots more to test!

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genewitch,

@Andres @atomicpoet @fediversenews
I've been maintaining a misskey server (here) and it's connected to ~10,000 instances with 2.6 million post records. It likes to expand into 16GB of ram then relaxes into about ~8GB. I am fairly certain it would be ok with fewer memories.

My biggest gripe about fediverse is the storage. I have to cull data so i don't have to monkeypatch drive size increases on the hypervisor. median storage is about 300GB give or take.

What's wild is that it was only about 2700 instances in november, but a large mastodon instance imploded and the userbase went everywhere, so as people posted "here i am" i added them, and that ballooned the connected instances.

hooray for open source, i think.

jupiter_rowland,

@Chris Trottier As I wrote earlier this year:

Someone somewhere out there probably starts their Pleroma instance with:

LOAD"PLER*",8,1<br></br>RUN

It's that lightweight.

#Pleroma #C64

atomicpoet,
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Here’s a table of which Fediverse servers are federating or de-federating Threads.

Of the top 10 most active servers it lists, eight of them are federating, one is offering limited federation (infosec.exchange), and one is de-federating Threads (mas.to).

Of course, there’s some notable large servers missing from this list. For example, is misskey.io federating with Threads?

https://fedipact.veganism.social/

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kotaro,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Is it possible to block the threads.net domain, but not all fedi accounts that are linked to threads? If there is a way to do that, I'd like to know it myself.

Bam,
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@kotaro

On Mastodon, if you server block threads, you will not see any content from threads.net, including any boosts from those who are on the fedi of posts from threads.net. You will, however, see anything from instances that do federate with threads.net.

Stated another way, hypothetically, if we follow each other and you block the threads server, you will see me and I will see you but you won’t see any threads content that I boost.

@atomicpoet

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