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mario,

Hubzilla 9.0.2

  • Fix buttons in event viewer
  • Fix some PHP warnings and errors
  • Fix issue when inReplyTo field is an array
  • Fix possible queueworker crash
  • Fix missing pdl file for mod home
  • Reduced default directory result set
  • Fix fatal error in likebanner addon
  • Fix fatal error in hilite addon

CC: @Fediverse News

feb,

Happy 14th Birthday !

Happy Birthday to the oldest fediverse server project that is still actively maintained. This marks the beginning of development of the Mistpark decentralised social network. We decided not to wait for "quit Facebook Day" in 2010 (May 31). We hit the ground running and haven't looked back. (Mike Macgirvin) 14th Birthday !

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Next month, mastodon.social should reach over 2 million accounts. That is, if current trends hold true.

@fediversenews

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Looks like has solidly returned to active development!

You can follow their progress by following @firefish.

@fediversenews

sn0n,
@sn0n@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews does this mean migrating to that from akkoma is on the horizon?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@sn0n @fediversenews I’m not migrating from Akkoma.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Barack Obama (@barackobama) is on the Fediverse!

How cool is that?!

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barney,
@barney@mas.to avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews

Isn't that a Threads account, rather than one in the Fediverse?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@barney @fediversenews I define the Fediverse as anything that federates with ActivityPub. And nope, this is not up for discussion. 😊

atomicpoet, (edited )
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

So far, I’m not liking how Threads posts render on my Akkoma server.

Too much of it is no text – just a big ginormous paperclip.

And what is that paperclip? Well, when I click on it, it opens up a new tab to reveal… a screenshot of a Tweet.

All of this could be bloody avoided if Threads people put the contents of the tweet in their posts. Or even better, if Threads actually rendered these pictures in the post and put in alt-text as well.

I’d tell these Threads people how bad these posts look on the Fediverse, but none of them can see my replies. Thanks, @zuck!

(Also, if the link to the post doesn’t show up, don’t blame me. Blame Threads. You don’t need to click it anyway since I’m providing a screenshot of what I’m seeing.)

@fediversenews

RE: https://threads.net/ap/users/17841445114285241/post/18424180516023009/

randulo,
@randulo@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @zuck @fediversenews That enormously sucks.

mosseri,

@atomicpoet @zuck @fediversenews replies are coming, but this image thing looks totally broken, will forward this onto the team

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

A few influencers, active both on the “regular” Fediverse and Threads, have noted that having a Threads account hasn’t given them a bigger audience even though Threads has a bigger userbase than (for example) Mastodon.

Quite the opposite. There’s more visibility here. People are more likely to interact with your posts. It’s easier to gain followers as well.

None of this surprises me. There’s always been two types of people who build content for social media: those who engage with people, and those who game algorithms.

@fediversenews

julian,
@julian@fietkau.social avatar

@damon That's super cool that you're working on something on that topic, Damon!

Have I ever shown you this blog post by @maya? https://maya.land/responses/2022/11/28/we-live-in-a-society.html It's been hugely influential on my thinking regarding this matter, and it does a great job highlighting consequences of algorithms and algorithm choice that aren't often talked about. Would recommend taking these thoughts into account as you clarify your own.

@atomicpoet

damon,

@atomicpoet Yes, Sora does algorithms very well. Memory will use a similar model but more user driven. I agree with your point about gaming the system bur I believe those people that attempt to do that on fedi would be blocked far and wide. Plus, of there’s algorithmic choice it’s not like everyone would come into contact with that persons posts

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

A Fediverse service someone should build: daily digest emails that summarizes what happened across the Fediverse, and interesting things that popped up in your feed.

Why make it? Because if you’re away from the Fediverse for a period of time, emails are a nice way to get caught up.

@fediversenews

MariaLiv,
@MariaLiv@toot.io avatar

@atomicpoet @Sh4d0w_H34rt @fediversenews Yeah, well I am sorry but I wouldn’t read those emails… I am drowning in emails as it is. 💛

jupiter_rowland,

@Chris Trottier Should be doable as a third-party Friendica add-on or Hubzilla app. Both already "federate" with e-mail anyway.

Since it's only out-bound anyway, it should be possible as a third-party (streams) app as well.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

So far, only 2,800 Threads accounts have turned on Federation. Of the ones I see, they’re quite active.

I suspect the reason for the minuscule federated accounts is because Threads users can’t see replies from the Fediverse yet. Why would you turn on federation if you’re oblivious to interactions from the Fediverse?

Nevertheless, we’ll see what happens once communication becomes two-way.

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nunesdennis,
@nunesdennis@vivaldi.net avatar

@newmanth @fediversenews The normal user probably dont know/care about federation

reiver,
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews

There are also quite a number of steps to turn on federation for a Threads account.

https://mastodon.social/@reiver/112191768847355806

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

The Fedipact table showing which servers are blocking Threads is not accurate!

For example, it says that atomicpoet.org is blocking Threads when, in fact, this is not correct. So view this entire site with skepticism.

https://fedipact.veganism.social/

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David,
@David@setouchi.social avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews There aren't many things that are right with the .

tokyo_0,

@atomicpoet That table isn't the official site. It's run by @nm If you check their feed, you'll see they've been offline for the past few weeks due to health issues. There are problably some updates that haven't been applied.

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atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Just updated to the latest versions of Akkoma and Mangane and… WHAT?!

That’s a lot of emoji reactions to choose from!

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me,

@atomicpoet So, why the move from firefish, btw?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@me @fediversenews I’ve been running this server since 2022, and it’s time to use it for my main account as well. Plus, it’s nice to just run things from my own server.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

This is beautiful. 😍

If you want to know why Truth Social looks like so much like other Fediverse software, it’s because it runs Mastodon with a Soapbox front-end. In fact, the creator of Soapbox, Alex Gleason, used to serve as Truth Social’s Head of Engineering.

So why did Alex Gleason leave? Because Soapbox received a grant from…

drum roll

…former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/truth-social-head-engineering-leaves-220000904.html

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atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Now why did Alex Gleason receive a grant from Jack Dorsey?

To build the Ditto project for Nostr.

Oh yeah, and who builds the Mostr bridge that connects ActivityPub with Nostr? Alex Gleason.

Now I’ll tell you something funny. When Jack Dorsey was more active on Bluesky, he tried his damnedest to ignore all mentions of Mastodon, the Fediverse, and ActivityPub. Instead, he referred to it all collectively as other protocols and services.

It makes you really wonder about things, right?

tofugolem,
@tofugolem@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews
Wow, he must have figured out that Truth Social doesn't have a future because he's an insider!

Surely no one else has figured out that that place is a ghost town.

Pardon my sarcasm.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Since migrating my old account to atomicpoet.org, which is an Akkoma+Mangane server, this is the first post of mine to go viral.

With 13.5K followers with this account (@atomicpoet), it’s been an eye-opening experience!

You see, I’m running this entire server with 1 vCPU and 2GB of RAM. With certain Fediverse software, this wouldn’t be feasible. With Akkoma+Mangane, it definitely is!

Now that’s not to say there aren’t drawbacks. There’s been genuine hiccups today with my server going down a few times. But after these momentary hiccups, my server rises to the challenge, and it’s business as usual.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that, post-migration, engagement might be going up. I can’t say precisely why this is the case, but I suspect one factor is that my domain (atomicpoet.org) is pretty memorable and a nice form of self-verification.

@fediversenews

RE: https://atomicpoet.org/objects/38540297-8066-4ce1-9c88-440a3e993b91

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

A new version of Mangane (peaceful-panther) has been released!

You can now schedule post deletion! There’s also some tweaks to the UI, including a re-worked bottom navbar for mobile!

Big thanks to @clovis for all his work!

https://github.com/BDX-town/Mangane/releases/tag/peaceful-panther

@fediversenews

clovis,
@clovis@bdx.town avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews you can see what is coming in the next release here too:
https://github.com/BDX-town/Mangane/milestone/9

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

I currently have 13.5K followers on atomicpoet.org, and I’m running this server on 2GB of RAM. Despite, this, everything is clearly operational and running smoothly.

And if you want to know why this is a big deal, the more followers you have on the Fediverse, the more resources your server needs.

When I was running servers that weren’t Akkoma+Mangane, using this little RAM with this many followers was unthinkable. Mind you, this is one day after my migration happened – so there’s lots more to test!

@fediversenews

genewitch,

@Andres @atomicpoet @fediversenews
I've been maintaining a misskey server (here) and it's connected to ~10,000 instances with 2.6 million post records. It likes to expand into 16GB of ram then relaxes into about ~8GB. I am fairly certain it would be ok with fewer memories.

My biggest gripe about fediverse is the storage. I have to cull data so i don't have to monkeypatch drive size increases on the hypervisor. median storage is about 300GB give or take.

What's wild is that it was only about 2700 instances in november, but a large mastodon instance imploded and the userbase went everywhere, so as people posted "here i am" i added them, and that ballooned the connected instances.

hooray for open source, i think.

jupiter_rowland,

@Chris Trottier As I wrote earlier this year:

Someone somewhere out there probably starts their Pleroma instance with:

LOAD"PLER*",8,1<br></br>RUN

It's that lightweight.

#Pleroma #C64

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Here’s a table of which Fediverse servers are federating or de-federating Threads.

Of the top 10 most active servers it lists, eight of them are federating, one is offering limited federation (infosec.exchange), and one is de-federating Threads (mas.to).

Of course, there’s some notable large servers missing from this list. For example, is misskey.io federating with Threads?

https://fedipact.veganism.social/

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kotaro,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Is it possible to block the threads.net domain, but not all fedi accounts that are linked to threads? If there is a way to do that, I'd like to know it myself.

Bam,
@Bam@sfba.social avatar

@kotaro

On Mastodon, if you server block threads, you will not see any content from threads.net, including any boosts from those who are on the fedi of posts from threads.net. You will, however, see anything from instances that do federate with threads.net.

Stated another way, hypothetically, if we follow each other and you block the threads server, you will see me and I will see you but you won’t see any threads content that I boost.

@atomicpoet

@fediversenews

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Here’s the immediate effect of Threads joining the Fediverse: they’re enabling quote posts. What’s more, they’re be using Misskey-style quote posts.

Which means that the majority of Fediverse accounts will be able to use quote posts.

While Akkoma, Misskey, and Friendica were able to use quote posts, because Mastodon was 70% of the Fediverse, most people couldn’t use quote posts.

Now that quote posts will be accessible to most people on the Fediverse, this is likely to result in a big cultural shift.

https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/21/networking-traffic/threads-has-entered-the-fediverse/

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SparkIT,

@atomicpoet do we even know the number of users connected to fedi or at least how many have the chance to opt-in? @fediversenews

jupiter_rowland,

@SparkIT @Chris Trottier In this regard, should Threads users be treated differently from Hubzilla or (streams) users?

Both aren't based on ActivityPub. Hubzilla is based on Zot6, (streams) is based on Nomad. Both support ActivityPub through an optional add-on which is off by default on Hubzilla and on by default on (streams).

This means anyone on (streams) can decide to turn ActivityPub off entirely, and anyone on Hubzilla can decide against turning it on in the first place.

Federation with anything else, e.g. within Hubzilla or (streams), between Hubzilla and (streams) mutually, between Hubzilla and Diaspora* or between Hubzilla and Friendica or GoToSocial using the Diaspora* add-on, is not affected by this, so technically, these users stay federated. They just can't connect themselves to Mastodon and everything else that only speaks ActivityPub.

Are you part of the Fediverse if you can connect to anything or anyone else that's part of the Fediverse? Or are you only part of the Fediverse if you can connect directly to Mastodon?

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Federation #Threads #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Just discovered a new (to me) Fediverse project. Hatsu is a bridge that brings static sites to the Fediverse.

https://hatsu.cli.rs

@fediversenews

ozzy,

@atomicpoet Chris, we will auto follow your new account when its ready?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@ozzy Migration is slow, but it’s in progress. 2,647 followers to go!

Of course, if you want to skip the auto-follow, you can always just manually follow. 👋

mario,

Release banner for Hubzilla 9.0
Hubzilla 9.0 is here and delivers many improvements under the hood and at the UI level. Two of the most asked features have been implemented: repeats a.k.a. boosts and adjustable theme colors at the channel and site level. Hubmins can also customize other components via the bootstrap sass variables.

Under the hood we implemented a short term object cash which will improve performance when fetching objects. The internal use of ActivityStreams1 has been deprecated in favor of ActivityStreams2. Object integrity proofs (EddsaSignatures) according to fep-8b32 have been implemented. Interesting for developers: CI and the test environment have been vastly improved.

Other notable changes are: refactored browser to browser encryption using the modern sodium crypto library and support for custom emojis with configurable emoji sets.

For a complete list of changes in Hubzilla 9.0 please refer to the changelog.

A big THANK YOU! to all contributors and everybody who supports Hubzilla and its development.

Breaking changes

  • The .htaccess file has been updated to fix an issue with recent Apache versions
  • Require sodium PHP extension
  • Require bcmath or gmp PHP extension
  • Require intl PHP extension
  • Versions < 9.0 will not be able to decrypt encrypted messages composed in version 9.0 in the UI
  • Poke and Mood apps removed
  • Removed smiley button addon
  • Removed smiley_pack addon
  • Removed emojione addon (use the emoji addon instead)
  • Removed fediwordle addon (use the fediquest addon instead)
  • Individual connection filters need manual intervention (e.g. replace http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share with Announce when filtering repeats)

Update

  1. Backup your data
  2. Make sure that the sodium PHP extension is installed and enabled
  3. Make sure that either the bcmath or gmp PHP extension is installed and enabled
  4. Make sure that the intl PHP extension is installed and enabled
  5. Execute util/udall

Install

Please refer to the install instructions.

#Hubzilla is a powerful platform for creating interconnected websites featuring a decentralized identity, communications, and permissions framework built using common webserver technology.

https://hubzilla.org

CC: @Fediverse News

danie10,
@danie10@mastodon.social avatar

@mario do you think there is any chance we'll see a image for as I had to give up my hub after moving away from cPanel hosting? I now keep all my services segmented in their own Docker containers.

danie10,
@danie10@mastodon.social avatar

@PlasticParagraph you can look at my video overview I did on Hubzilla at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9nCAOM5V1g. It is most similar to Friendica, and has quite a bit of what Facebook has. It is full length blogs and also connects to Diaspora and other networks. Right now the full nomadic ID is only on Hubzilla, until maybe ActivityPub and Mastodon expand later to include that. Mastodon is 500 chars max microblogging without all the bells and whistles Hubzilla and Friendica have. All post to Fediverse tho.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Since Mangane is unknown to most of you here’s an explainer.

There are three main microblogging flavours of the Fediverse:

  1. Mastodon, Glitch, Hometown, etc.
  2. Misskey, Firefish, Sharkey, etc.
  3. Pleroma, Akkoma, etc.

For atomicpoet.org. I used to use Pleroma but I’ve migrated to Akkoma. The Pleroma/Akkoma flavour is quite unique in that, not only is it perhaps the most resource efficient—it allows you to use different front-ends.

This is where Mangane becomes interesting because it is an incredibly user-friendly and attractive front-end developed by @clovis. And, in fact, I think it provides the most user-friendly and attractive UI/UX on the Fediverse.

Three servers that use Mangane are:

Why am I so enthusiastic about Mangane? Because not only is it good-looking and user-friendly, it provides excellent rendering for text-formatting. And its management of reposts (both regular and quoted) is spectacular.

Anyway, I’ve been testing Mangane for months. I’ve been using it on a live server for two weeks. I’m pleased with the results.

@fediversenews

cochise,
@cochise@snac.subversida.de avatar
atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar
atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Threads has successfully federated with atomicpoet.org.

So all questions about whether or not they will federate have been answered. More to the point, Threads is federating with my personal server.

There were doubts about whether Threads would allow federation with single-user and small user servers. There were also questions about whether they’d allow federation with non-Mastodon servers.

Well, I’m running an Akkoma+Mangane server that has two active users on it. And federation with Threads is indeed working.

@fediversenews

RE: https://threads.net/ap/users/17841401746480004/post/18047168578568435/

Johannab,
@Johannab@wandering.shop avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews When I click the link you posted:

{"success":false,"error":"Not found"}

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@Johannab @fediversenews On your Mastodon server, do a search for @zuck and see if a Threads profile shows up. If it does, your server has successfully federated with Threads.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Looks like @zuck is not the only Threads profile that’s followable on the Fediverse. I’m seeing multiple accounts show up from a threads.net search.

@fediversenews

TamarYellin,
gimulnautti,
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green avatar

@atomicpoet we can see them, but can they see us?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Mangane supports custom emoji reactions. An admin simply needs to paste the emojis they want to support in the raw JSON data.

After you save the JSON data, your emojis will appear when you hover the mouse over the ♥ button.

@fediversenews

Emoji reactions in feed

Seth,
@Seth@bdx.town avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews and now users can use any emoji (even custom ones from your instance) without any extra configuration from the admin (well except updating mangane^^)

Though i kinda need the feature you presented but at user level : pick my X most used emojis to be the default ones 👀

atomicpoet, (edited )
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

After months of testing, and then migrating my Pleroma server to Akkoma, I can now say for certain that Mangane is a viable front-end for the Fediverse.

I am very pleased with the results, and feel like most people would find this to be an easy and approachable UI/UX. In fact, Mangane solves a big problem for me.

When it comes to Fediverse server software, Akkoma has always been efficient. In fact, I’m running atomicpoet.org with 2GB of RAM, and it’s rock solid. Unfortunately, Akkoma’s default UI doesn’t seem to be all that inviting. I’ve tested it with folks who are new to the Fediverse, and to put it politely, they find it very confusing.

Mangane, on the other hand, is very inviting. Most people like it because it’s similar to Twitter but has lots of quality of life improvements over it. For example, the ability to react to a post with multiple emoji reactions seems to be a big hit.

Power users also have plenty to love about Mangane. Not only does it offer textual formatting (through Markdown), it offers post scheduling as well. That’s a big deal!

If you’re looking for rock solid Fediverse server software that combines resource efficiency with a beautiful UI, the combination of Akkoma + Mangage is a solid choice!

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