wsw777, to random
fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

I cannot fucking BELIEVE this. From a former Supreme Court justice. 🤬🤬

Spectator: "Judgment call: the case for leaving the ECHR. The real purpose of the convention is to make us accept rights which we may not want"

OK Johnny Boy, get on the telly and tell us which ones you DON'T want.

https://archive.ph/Do5gY

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

I really can't believe, after all this time they've spent banging on about the ECHR, they still haven't grasped that the Good Friday Agreement is contingent on us being a signatory. As is the post-Brexit Trade and Cooperation Agreement with the EU. That "oven ready" one that took five years to negotiate and we still haven't fully implemented.
GPLB: "UK withdrawal from ECHR would have 'dramatic consequences' for people in Northern Ireland, says senior MEP"

AutisticMumTo3, to random
@AutisticMumTo3@leftist.network avatar

'Quitting the ECHR Would Create a 'Fertile Environment' for Modern Slavery' – Byline Times
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/01/quitting-the-echr-would-create-a-fertile-environment-for-modern-slavery/




fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Here it comes ... 🙄 🤬

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

This is NOT good. For refugees or for anyone else.
GPLB: "Sunak says new Rwanda bill will disapply Human Rights Act for small boat deportations"

Stevenheywood, to random

As the Nasty Party is rattling this sabre again ask yourself: how many of these rights would you be happy to leave in trust to the feckless liars, yobbos and charlatans that infest Westminster?

#ToriesUnfitToGovern
#ECHR

/1

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/09/uk-could-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-to-stop-channel-migrant-boats?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

ChrisMayLA6, to humanrights
@ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us avatar

Looking at this list of the benefits of (continued) membership of the European Convention on Human Rights, its perhaps not so hard to see what the swivel-eyed, right-wing nut-job tendency have against it....

When you're conducting a , pushing a agenda on , or just trying to curtail popular criticisms of what you are doing for you (political) chums, these are all a but too inconvenient!


fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Jesus.
Former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption, in an interview yesterday on LBC, with Andrew Marr.
"Woke leftists quite often make the lazy and illogical claim that leaving the ECHR will mean we would 'lose our human rights'."

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Look everyone, Sunak's found another bandwagon he can fall off as soon as he gets asked a tricky question, like "why do we need to leave the ECHR?" 🙄😡

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar
fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Right right right. I'm sure they'll be falling over themselves to help us out by contrevening it's own charter. FFS. 🤬
GPLB: "Cleverly suggests government wants to get European court of human rights to change way it operates, rather than leave it"

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Start your engines: every Tory who's after Sunak's job post-election is jumping on the "ECHR is to blame for us being shit" bandwagon.
The Times: "Ben Wallace: Human rights laws are protecting terrorists
Ex-defence secretary attacks ‘lunacy’ of legislation such as the ECHR that prevents the UK carrying out raids abroad to capture suspects"
https://archive.ph/8Qwjh

ChrisMayLA6, to random
@ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us avatar

Talk among Tories of leaving the ECHR is reaching fever pitch (again), so its as well to be reminded about what the consequences of leaving the European Convention on Human Rights would & wouldn't be.

Whatever the practical issues, as Joelle Grogan (King's College) concludes, not only would it encourage further withdrawals, leaving the ECHR would be one more element in the destruction of the UK's (already floundering) global reputation, with further consequences.

https://theconversation.com/leaving-the-european-convention-on-human-rights-wont-stop-the-boats-but-it-will-create-other-problems-for-the-uk-227403?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20April%2016%202024%20-%202939129860&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20April%2016%202024%20-%202939129860+CID_d0e1f020b3b7a3362d1bc42184ea100d&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Leaving%20the%20European%20convention%20on%20human%20rights%20wont%20stop%20the%20boats%20%20but%20it%20will%20create%20other%20problems%20for%20the%20UK

TheEuropeanNetwork, to uk

Brexit Wars part II: Right-wing Conservatives want Britain out of the European Convention on Human Rights.

For years, UK Conservatives seeking right-wing support have floated idle threats to pull Britain out of Europe’s top human rights treaty. This time, they might actually mean it.

It would be a seismic decision. The only European nations that are not members are Russia — expelled last year after invading Ukraine — and Belarus.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-tories-rishi-sunak-european-convention-on-human-rights/

fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

He's cracked it! Put him in charge of the election campaign immediately 😂
Jake Berry (in an interview with Sky News) says of course we should leave the ECHR because Canada and Australia aren't members and they're doing just fine. 🙄

1br0wn, to random
@1br0wn@eupolicy.social avatar

Former 🇬🇧 prime minister Gordon Brown: “we need to stand up for what the European Convention on Human Rights has achieved and, instead of marching under the banner of authoritarian populists, we need to lead the fight for an international order based on the rule of law and not the law of the jungle.” /cc @davidkaye https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/25/dominic-raab-assault-on-human-rights-european-court-international-law?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

fkamiah17, to random
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

GPLB: "Cleverly says bill 'pushing at edge of envelope' but still 'within framework of international law'
[He] says the supreme court’s judgment was based on the facts from 18 months ago."
Those Supreme Court judges, eh? What do they know? 🤬

fkamiah17, (edited ) to UKpolitics
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Aaaand it's another kick in the balls for Sunak 😂
GPLB: "ECHR says Ireland has lodged inter-state case against UK over Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Act"

jpslaake, to humanrights

Still can’t get enough of this sketch from 2015. Patrick Stewart, Sarah Solemani and Adrian Scarborough.

https://youtu.be/ptfmAY6M6aA?si=C3Xe3nt-v5mx7tWr

JdeBP, to humanrights

"The [European] Convention [on Human Rights] was drafted [...] in the aftermath of the horror of the Second World War, but over 70 years ago. And it's now clearly been overtaken by events"
— Conservative and Unionist Party MP for Rayleigh and Wickford, House of Commons, 2024-05-14

rahmstorf, to random German
@rahmstorf@fediscience.org avatar

Landmark ruling of #ECHR:

The European Convention on Human Rights "encompasses a right to effective protection by the State authorities from the serious adverse effects of climate change".

The Swiss government "failed to comply with its duties", including its failure "to quantify, through a carbon budget or otherwise, national greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions limitations", and "to meet its past GHG emission reduction targets".

Climate protection is a human right!

https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=003-7919428-11026177&filename=Judgment%20Verein%20KlimaSeniorinnen%20Schweiz%20and%20Others%20v.%20Switzerland%20-%20Violations%20of%20the%20Convention%20for%20failing%20to%20implement%20sufficient%20measures%20to%20combat%20climate%20change.pdf

fkamiah17, to random
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

I think what Nige means is "big thanks to the lefty human rights lawyers who went to an elitist court to uphold my right to free association under the ECHR".

ChrisMayLA6, to incarcerated
@ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us avatar

The good news:
Shabana Mahmood, the Labour shadow justice secretary has come out forcefully in support of the ECHR....

The bad news:
Shabana Mahmood, the Labour shadow justice secretary thinks the solution to the UK prison problem is to build more prisons....

And while she is right, 'Change will not happen overnight... We cannot wave a magic wand & return our legal system to its former glory'... lets hope at least the mood music will change quickly!

h/t FT

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