Admin announcement:
As of today, this instance blocks known domains associated with Meta's #project92, in accordance with the anti-Meta Fedi Pact (https://fedipact.online/)
In effect, this instance does not federate with the domains threads.net or threads.instagram.com. Further associated domains will be blocked, if discovered.
We are not personally against the users of Project 92, we are against Meta. We will not be giving them a chance. Their work is a threat to the Fediverse, as it has been a threat to other social spaces and open communities for years prior. They are not welcome in our homes.
@Natanox We're not currently planning on joining Fedipact. If and when there are instances owned by Meta, we'll take the appropriate steps (which very likely will be defederation – see https://meta.chaos.social/federation for past decisions).
We don't see a point in signing – we like to think that we've shown that we're committed to good moderation, and putting our names to "project92 is a real" isn't something we're comfortable with, when neither of us know that that's true or what that is.
I need more folks to know who are talking about #Meta or #Facebook joining the Fediverse that the company has coordinated with the federal government in the US to remove people from disability benefits.
No, I'm not joking. Many folks on disability know better than to EVER post pictures on that platform as they've been used against them. Or to ever talk about having a slightly better day for their ailments than usual. Having them spy on the #fediverse is NOT okay and will actively make this platform less safe for many disabled people. That #FediPact should be seriously considered.
@chikorita157@Peace_out_art True, Facebook complies with being asked for literally any of this. It's nasty and will continue on any other platform they have access to.
retro.pizza has signed on to the anti-meta #FediPact (partly out of data use concerns but mostly because as a company they have shown an unwillingness to moderate properly)
@sstoneb It's a lot of assumptions, but it's very much based on how they already run the platforms they have. Profit-based moderation always puts the harassers over marginalized people, and allows misinformation to spread because the people spreading it are customers too. The reason it's being discussed right now is they reached out to some big server owners, but under NDAs. But I'm still not convinced they're going to get anything off the ground regardless.
@sstoneb There are also concerns from the FOSS folks here that it's an attempt to absorb and kill ActivityPub, but first they would have to stop laying off software engineers.
It seems that @Gargron signed Meta's NDA for #Project92. If this is true, then if I were an instance moderator I would defederate mastodon.social and switch to some fork of #Mastodon if I didn't already use one. No quarter should be given to #Meta and other such entities. Let's not repeat the mistakes of #XMPP, the #Fediverse must not be embraced-extended-extinguished as well. I'm watching for the reaction of my current instance's admins to #FediPact and #FediBlockMeta.
@Natanox
Let me introduce you to a concept that it seems you are alian to: Dictionary
cancel culture (noun): the practice or tendency of engaging in mass canceling (see cancel entry 1 sense 1e) as a way of expressing disapproval and exerting social pressure
Still I'd argue this situation doesn't fit to any of these definitions. @surabax Didn't suggest defederating and rebasing because he wants to 'cancel' @Gargron (well, perhaps rebasing does a little bit in this context), but to protect users of instances against Meta. He even explained the rational behind it. @jsm
Traditional social media, and Meta in particular, has been highly problematic when it comes to Jews, including allowing antisemitic hate speech, harassment and more.
If a Meta instance were to federate with Babka Social, it would put our people at risk, not only from antisemitic harassment, but also from data collection and other threats to our vulnerable community.
jan lawa pi kulupu ni li toki e ni:
kulupu Meta li ike.
ona li lanpan e sona jan pi pana ala.
ona li pali ike tawa jan mute.
ale ni la, kulupu Meta li wile kama tawa kulupu Petewesi la, mi toki e ni:
mi weka e ilo Project92 e ilo ale pi kulupu Meta. kulupu toki.social li toki ala tawa ona.
toki pona li lon lawa :toki_pona_flag: ⏫ toki pona above
Announcement from the admins:
Meta is evil. It spies on people, even those who didn't consent. It does a lot of bad in this world.
Now Meta wants to join the Fediverse.
Therefore, we announce that we will utterly block Project92 and any other Meta instance. They will not be able to federate with toki.social.
We, the moderation and administration of tech.lgbt, are signing the Anti-Meta Fedi Pact in fellowship with our peer communities. (https://vantaa.black/pact)
There is over a decade of precedent that Facebook will not have users' best interests as their guiding principle but rather profit margins, if it joins the Fediverse.
We at tech.lgbt have long held the belief that corporation owned instances are a threat to the core of the Fediverse: freedom for users to be themselves and to be a part of their communities. The 2010s saw the loss of online freedom when the majority of the Web was consolidated into a few destinations, and Facebook entering here could lead us back to centralization. Furthermore, NDAs for server admins will constrain our sovereignty online by binding us legally from disrupting their business.
We are not products. We are people, and we do not welcome Facebook in this space.
@nanianmichaels@mods I just think instead of immediately promising to block it it's better to work around it. It's a fact it will federate, we should make the best of that to try to build the decentralised internet. In my opinion this just feels like putting your head in the sand and pretending outside influences don't exist. Blocking that potential instance won't solve the core problem of the internet being too centralised, it'll make it worse by alienating users.
You're free to disagree and maybe I'm too optimistic in this, but I think it's better to approach this with an open mind until definitive proof comes that this will cause damage to the fediverse, but I see this as a potentially good thing. If companies want to join the fediverse that means they see profit in it. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it could also mean that they notice how they can't forever keep up the walled gardens of their current platforms.
If your instance admin is speaking favorably about #facebook joining the #fediverse, get out now before they start feeding your data to the company partly responsible for overturning several elections (by violating data privacy laws with impunity). The company that demonstrates a clear conservative bias with every act.
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