crossgolf_rebel, to fediverse

Tja liebe Leute. Schaut euch das #Fediverse von heute noch mal an.
So wird es #Meta nicht lassen, denn sie wollen Geld verdienen.
Allein schon beim quer Lesen des Beitrags, werden eine Fülle von Befürchtungen der #Fedipact Konten indirekt bestätigt

Es geht denen nur um Geld und zwar um eures 💰

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/?guccounter=1

bytor, to FediPact
@bytor@mastodon.xyz avatar

Unpopular opinion:

The against Threads will do more harm than good to and the .

adnan,
@adnan@1210.nl avatar

@bytor I did not sign the because I am on my own family & friends instance and I want the choice to use my fediverse identity to talk to threads.

However I recognize that very large instances harm the distributed nature of the fediverse. It becomes centralized for all practical purposes.

Just off the top of my head, no instance / admin should control the experience of more than 1% of people of fediverse.

tokyo_0, to meta
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

A lot of people have insisted isn't getting involved with the to embrace, extend and extinguish it...

... but even before fully implementing Fediverse interoperability in they're already talking openly about changing its protocols to add features like monetization. 🤔

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/

Text in a screenshot reads as follows: McCue riffed on the idea that fediverse users could become creators where some of their content became available to subscribers only, similar to how Patreon works. For instance, fediverse advocate and co-editor of ActivityPub Evan Prodromou created a paid Mastodon account (@evanplus) that users could subscribe to for $5 per month to gain access. If he’s on board with paid content, surely others would follow. Cottle agreed that the model could work with the fediverse, too. He additionally suggested there are ways the fediverse could monetize beyond donations, which is what often powers various efforts today, like Mastodon. Cottle said someone might even make a fediverse experience that consumers would pay for, the way some fediverse client apps are paid today.

tokyo_0,
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

And aware, no doubt, that quote posts are a divisive, hot-button issue, they're already building into not only quote post functionality but more refined controls for it than I know of anywhere in the — a feature bound to attract attention and make people consider choosing Threads in preference to other Fediverse software that doesn't offer the same functionality.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/threads-launches-a-mute-feature-for-words-teases-controls-for-quote-posts/

This is all absolutely classic embrace, extend and extinguish.

mima,

@youronlyone I don't think they can force the rest of fedi to implement controls on quotes. I do think it's a bad idea to control who can quote post no matter if it's Mastodon or Threads doing it (or even Misskey). But it's just going to be circumvented/ignored easily, like how Masto's "opt-in search" has no effect on Misskey's note search per user.

What fedi really should focus on is controlling replies. And while I have reservations on federating that control, I do believe it's important to give users the power to control how their posts look like in their own instances without having admin privileges. Because it's a (micro)blog.

@vetehinen @tchambers @tokyo_0

nm, to ADHD
@nm@veganism.social avatar

ADHD win: I finally got around to updating the data for https://fedipact.veganism.social after putting it off for like 3 months.

Data was collected from roughly 43,000 instances, about half were offline and discarded.

FediPact, to FediPact
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

threads is paying people to post with their "bonus program" and yes ofc it's scummy lmao

The Threads bonus is an invite-only bonus program that lets you earn money on your Threads content... Based on the performance [and] number of posts you create.

is this really the vibe we want them bringing to the fediverse???

https://help.instagram.com/2449746995226910

xgranade,
@xgranade@wandering.shop avatar

@FediPact I would love to know whom they're paying...

FediPact, to FediPact
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

Why Meta is looking to the fediverse as the future for social media

“You could imagine an extension to the protocol eventually — of saying like, ‘I want to support micropayments,’ or … like, ‘hey, feel free to show me ads, if that supports you.’ Kind of like a way for you to self-label or self-opt-in. That would be great,” Cottle noted, speaking casually. Whether or not Meta would find a way to get a cut of those micropayments, of course, remains to be seen.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/

tokyo_0,
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

@FediPact We're not even a year into their involvement and they're already making statements like this out in the open. smh

coffeepine,
@coffeepine@beige.party avatar

@FediPact They are basically already telling you what the plan is: They see this as another space to push ads to and find ways to part you from money.

Facebook needs to be resisted.

boogah, to FediPact
@boogah@simian.rodeo avatar

Reminder: It’s not too late to either sign (or ask your server admin to sign) .

https://fedipact.online/

If your instance won’t sign on, find a smaller instance that already has. There’s a list of a few hundred listed over on the fedipact site. 😉

We don’t need the “flagship” instances that will put up with the corporate colonization of this beautiful network that we’ve all built together.
https://kolektiva.social/

vantablack, (edited ) to KindActions
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

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well i'm unemployed, job searching, was recently kicked out of the place i'd been staying for years, and am surviving solely off donations for the moment so if you wanna support me anything helps me keep being able to do all those cool thingies!!!

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vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

(see the above post) :lesbian_heart:​ ✨

#MutualAid #TransCrowdFund#lesbian #LesbianVisibilityDay #LesbianVisibilityWeek

tokyo_0, to fediverse
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

Can you imagine what the would look like now if the response to Gab had been "Admins don't need to block these instances, individual users can just choose whether or not to apply a user-level block (mute) themselves"?

And is even more corrosive than Gab. Gab users just posted a barrage of hate and unpleasantness. Meta is commercially incentivised to destroy what some people are inviting it to into.

pinkdrunkenelephants, to mastodon
@pinkdrunkenelephants@mastodon.social avatar

So I want to leave .social for a better server that doesn't federate with Threads, but the ones on the fedipact website either actually do federate with Threads anyway (looking at you mas.to) or they're invite-only. :(

tokyo_0,
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

@trumpet Something that could work is setting up an alternative instance—one federating with Threads and the other not—so they run as separate entities but are run under the same administration as mas.to right now. There might be a small overhead, but with the same total number of users a lot of the costs should be similar. It may be possible to migrate people at a database level so they don't have to do it themselves. But there are already plenty of instances that federate with Threads.

trumpet,
@trumpet@mas.to avatar

@tokyo_0 Definitely thought of that approach too, the only thing is I thought it might be a little messy. But an option!

vantablack, to cyberpunk
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

:HackerCatRainbow:​​ https://cyberpunk.lol is open for registrations!!! :HackerCatRainbow:​​

WHO ARE WE?

we're a small scrappy relatively fresh-faced underdog instance of glitch mastodon. we have but one humbly stated mission: to put the PUNK back into cyberpunk here on the fediverse

WHO AM I?

i'm vanta. trans enby girl polyam lesbian gender terrorist, the fediverse's favorite pirate radio DJ, DIY clothing auteur, and rogue wordsmith extraordinaire. i've been a hardcore fedi user since 2017

THREADS?

not only is this instance a fedipact instance that has threads.net blocked, but... i'm the one who made the whole pact to begin with lmao

:heart_cyber_pink:​ :cyber_heart_purple:​

Taurya,
@Taurya@neovibe.app avatar

@vantablack how can I switchover my posts and account?

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar
vantablack, to KindActions
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

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movodehe, to FediPact
@movodehe@social.tchncs.de avatar

When I try to visit @barackobama with @apps from the social.tchncs.de instance, I actually get to @BarackObama

When I log in via browser I get redirected to the threads website https://www.threads.net/@barackobama/ but do not see the account on my instance.

Does anyone know why this is, espacially how I end up at @BarackObama? Probably has something to do with I guess?

movodehe,
@movodehe@social.tchncs.de avatar

@morph
Me too. Seems like a really random bug to me and it crossed my mind, that it might be on purpose to load from a replacement instance. But that would also not make any sense to me.
Expected behaviour would be an error message.
@beandev @apps

beandev,
@beandev@social.tchncs.de avatar

@movodehe
Im pretty sure, I faced the bug long time ago. I don't know if I had reported the error. 🙄
@morph @apps

vantablack, to FediPact
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

saw someone speculating that is an inside job by meta to intentionally fracture the fediverse and, damn, i wish they were paying me for this lmao

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

i guess it says lots about how poor i am that i consider 420k to be an unspeakable sum of money xD

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

who am i kidding, there's probably at least one person on here with that much just sitting in their savings lmao

if you have that much in the bank you should give me $420 lol

consider it a 0.1% vanta tithe

rachaelspooky, to FediPact
@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol avatar

if any of you have ever been, like, properly immersed in tech bro culture and seen by the tech bros as "on their side," you would know it doesnt even make sense to them when you tell them real hate exists online. they dont understand it's more than just name-calling, that there are real world consequences to allowing that kind of shit on a platform. they think of it all as "it's just online, ignore them lol" and literally laugh if you mention moderation tools.

i spent four years getting one of the most prestigious compsci degrees you can get.

there was no tech ethics course.

they dont understand the consequences of their actions.

and they never will.

or there is no fediverse. just another cesspool of bigotry.

rachaelspooky,
@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol avatar

hey! this post is doing well! if you want to help out a trans woman who was fired for being trans and can't find work because the tech world has gone to shit, my venmo is $rachaelspooky

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