Make me a a bird flu milkshake please
Something I can drink with ease
Full of viral particles, raw and alive
So my immune system can go into overdrive
Hopefully it won't make me too sick
Or make my eyes bloodshot and snot too thick
Or cause a fever, or gastric distress
Or make me vomit all over my dress
Raw milk is healthier for you they say
Or so the cuckoo raw milk nuts yell today
Until they're all killed off and dead of the flu
or they survive, and they just pass it on to you
@B_Whitewind Yeah, I think really the question on legalization is if you let people market/sell it in stores (where the unsuspecting/clueless might buy it, thinking it's "healthier", and it kills a bunch of kids). But, I get it -- I mean, don't stop the stupid if they really want to try to get themselves sick.
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First, they confirmed the raw milk was chock-full of H5N1 virus. Then, they stored some of the raw milk at refrigerator temperature to see if levels of the virus in milk would drop off over time. Over 5 weeks, viral levels in raw milk dropped a bit, but not much.
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This should also imply that the virus gets into fermented raw milk products. And if you look for "raw milk ice cream", you'll see that there are sellers and there is a market. I find the issue of ice cream more interesting because it can be stored for a long time, which means outbreaks later.
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Heating the milk to 72 degrees Celsius, or 181 degrees Fahrenheit, for 15 or 20 seconds — conditions that approximated flash pasteurization — greatly reduced levels of the virus in the milk, but it didn’t inactivate it completely.
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This is flash pasteurization, meaning that the heat is applied for a shorter duration, but at a higher temperature. And this is the most common method; I've seen it in action and it's usually some nice machine that efficiently does this, which means that it's cheaper than the "vat pasteurization". Speaking of vat, I'm not sure how many people still do this since the rise of "cartons", but I grew up with raw milk plastic bags and boiling the milk; unfortunately, I wasn't raised vegan. Anyway, I distinctly remember the challenges of boiling cow milk, so I wonder how many of the raw milk buyers are doing their own pasteurization (boiling = vat pasteurization at high temperature).
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“But, we emphasize that the conditions used in our laboratory study are not identical to the large-scale industrial treatment of raw milk,” senior study author Dr. Yoshihiro Kawaoka, a virologist who specializes in the study of flu and Ebola, said in an email.
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It's true that further processing, which is done in these milk factories, can change the results. They mention the importance of homogenization, but there's also dilution as cow milk is pooled from many sources, so if just a small % of that is infectious, then the dilution will reduce the viral load per unit of fluid, making pasteurization more likely to succeed. I'm not sure about the homogenization and emulsification help in this sense:
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a process that emulsifies the fat globules in milk so the cream won’t separate.
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I'm not sure about this one. I've seen this in research on tuberculosis bacteria in milk, but not for viruses. Just like with SARS-CoV-2, there is a question of the non-linear effects of viral load (more viral particles, exponentially worse outcomes). They can't really answer. And, who knows, maybe homogenization will make it easier to cow milk to be accidentally aerosolized and/or inhaled.
I wouldn't CNN to go for the pessimistic reporting...
So, yeah. The raw cow milk drinkers are working stochastically to bring about a new pandemic. And probably new waves of as a bonus tuberculosis. Did you know about drug resistant tuberculosis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidrug-resistant_tuberculosis
"Thirty years after the era-defining 'Got Milk?' campaign—itself a project of the California Milk Processor Board—the U.S. dairy industry’s PR machine appears to be getting a second wind."
The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from #H5N1-infected #cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the #avianinfluenza#virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen
@dancingdogs This may not be a popular take, but if these people want to get themselves sick with a high mortality disease, I say let them. There are plenty of humans in the world, and if the virus is going to mutate to infect us (which it very likely will) at some point, we might as well get rid of some of the stupidest of us up front. There, I said it.
@VirginiaHolloway The cats that died, had a very nasty time. They did drink raw milk…but it could be other modes of transmission. i guess we’ll find out soon enough as they further investigate.
"Raw milk enthusiasts are doubling down on the claimed benefits and safety of their favorite elixir, and say the government warnings are nothing more than “fearmongering.”" 🙄 #h5n1#hpai#birdflu#milk
👀 "Mark McAfee, founder of Fresno’s Raw Farm and the Raw Milk Institute, said his phone has been ringing off the hook with “customers asking for H5N1 milk because they want immunity from it.”" #h5n1#hpai#birdflu#milk
"I'm changing the world," grinned Rodolphe Landemaine, between mouthfuls of a lovingly laminated, butter-free, pain au chocolat.
Landemaine, a baker, now owns five busy boulangeries in Paris, with more on the way in other French cities, all serving entirely dairy-free products to a mostly local clientele.
Not that he advertises the absence of #butter, or #eggs, or cows' #milk, in his shops. Indeed, the word "vegan" never crosses his lips.
"On April 16, APHIS microbiologists identified a shift in an H5N1 sample from a cow in Kansas that could indicate that the virus has an adaptation to mammals."
For the few who don't know mammals includes us humans.
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) is the group in the USDA that inspects and monitors US our food supply.
Do you drink raw milk? You probably don't want to do that right now. @HelenBranswell has some quotes from experts who all sound horrified at the prospect of anyone drinking that milk.