LiamOMaraIV, to random
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The assault on is about control, not about being "". These reactionary fucks have never been pro-life -- they are pro-execution, pro-war, pro-cop, but anti-woman. It's not about religion, either -- they made that up. It's always been about .

TJ, to Philosophie German
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In der zählt wie bei all den Gendertheorien und Rechtfertigungen, um Menschen im Mutterleib zu töten: Über die Gültigkeit der Ideen entscheidet stets die Natur.
Schon Goethe lässt den herbei gezwungenen Erdgeist zu Faust sagen: "Du gleichst dem Geist, den Du begreifst, nicht mir".

@philosophie

GryphonSK, to random
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wdlindsy, to random
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Mark Silk notes that the "pro-life" movement is in political retreat following the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision and the chaos that decision has ushered in. The "pro-life" movement now finds itself "at serious odds with Americans' historical deference to diversity of belief."

Silk concludes that “the pro-life movement has pushed the political envelope too far.”

https://religionnews.com/2024/05/03/the-pro-life-movement-in-political-retreat/

wdlindsy, to Women
@wdlindsy@toad.social avatar

Mike Luckovich's cartoon commentary on the tragic situation women in "pro-life" solidly red states now face when it comes to healthcare needs and anti-abortion laws.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/27/2237406/-Cartoon-Abortion-in-red-states

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MugsysRapSheet, to Houston
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A , husband rushed his wife to one of those Strip-center "Urgent Care" clinics, and they refused to treat her b/c of Texas' extreme anti-abortion laws.

Her husband had to call 911. It took them 20 minutes to arrive, by which point she had already miscarried in the bathroom.

This was a couple that WANTED their child, but got caught in RW Extremism/hysteria over and cost them their child.

Even if you are , you can lose your child due to .

wdlindsy, to Women
@wdlindsy@toad.social avatar

Trump thinks he's pulled a fast one and staked out a mythic "middle ground" on abortion that will have both diehard MAGA "pro-lifers" and "moderates" queasy about a national ban on abortion happy. Paul Waldman disagrees:

"Dobbs has been a catastrophe, Donald Trump is why, and if he is elected again, abortion rights in America are only headed in one direction. There is no middle."

https://paulwaldman.substack.com/p/there-is-no-more-middle-ground-on

wdlindsy, to Women
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"Trump doesn’t have to give a clear answer on abortion—he didn’t then, and he doesn’t now. Just look at what happened immediately after he broke with the position of nearly every significant pro-life advocacy group this weekend: Each one reaffirmed its support for his 2024 campaign. Like everyone else in MAGA world, they are simply along for the ride."

~ Joe Perticone

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-and-lindsey-graham-finally

wdlindsy, to Women
@wdlindsy@toad.social avatar

"Unless we summon the political will to stop Trump, MAGA extremists, and reactionary judges, hundreds of millions of women will be denied their right to make the most fundamental decisions regarding their lives and bodies."

~ Robert B. Hubbell


/1

https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/eclipse-success

wdlindsy,
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"It takes quite an ego to tell pro-lifers that your re-election is paramount and that the fate of unborn children is a distraction. But that’s the kind of guy Trump is. ...

He doesn’t really care about abortion. He doesn’t value babies any more than he values women. He’s a danger not just to one party or one group but to everyone, because there’s no one he won’t betray."

~ Will Saletan


/14

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/trump-is-not-pro-life

wdlindsy,
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"Two things are undoubtedly true: Donald Trump has no 'religious conviction' leading him to oppose abortion (The Bulwark’s Sarah Longwell says voters often assume that he’s paid for abortions in her focus groups), and he knows the Dobbs decision and everything stemming from it make for terrible electoral politics for his party.

Those two truths led to his long and rambling video statement Monday…."

~ Kate Riga


/16

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-abortion-feigned-moderation

wdlindsy, to oklahoma
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Oklahoma, ranked by Americans United for Life fourth in the nation among "pro-life" states, plans to execute Michael Smith today.

https://www.lawdork.com/p/oklahoma-execution-texas-sb4-appeal

wdlindsy, to random
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As Megan Messerly and Alice Miranda Ollstein report, the large anti-abortion lobby that comprises a huge part of the GOP base is NOT on board with GOP attempts to pretend it can be both pro-IVF and anti-abortion:

"Anti-abortion advocates worked for five decades to topple Roe v. Wade. They’re now laying the groundwork for a yearslong fight to curb in vitro fertilization."


/1

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/01/anti-abortion-movement-ivf-war-00149766

wdlindsy,
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"Since the Alabama Supreme Court ruled last month that frozen embryos are children, the Heritage Foundation and other conservative groups have been strategizing how to convince not just GOP officials but evangelicals broadly that they should have serious moral concerns about fertility treatments like IVF and that access to them should be curtailed."

You cannot push the claim that "life" begins at conception and simultaneously approve of IVF.


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wdlindsy,
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The moment you impose the religion-based claim that the fertilized ovum is a full human person and enshrine it in law, you have locked yourself into an inexorable logic that makes anything – including destruction of a fertilized ovum in a test tube – which impedes the development of the zygote an assault on a human being tantamount to murder.

The problem begins with that foundational religion-based principle you're trying to force everyone to respect.


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schizanon, to prochoice
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freemo, to bible
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I find it pretty hilarious that claim to be on christian grounds when the explicity tells people that not only abortions are ok, but actively tells you that you SHOULD have abortions (under certain circumstances).

Dont take my word for it, the bible is pretty clear about this.

If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. – Numbers 5:24-27

also not quite as direct but still pretty damn suggestive:

Cursed be the day on which I was born! … Cursed be the man who … did not kill me in the womb. – Jeremiah 20:14-17

and the penalty for violently hurting a woman causing a miscarriage is just a fine, but killing the woman is death, almost as if the lives arent equal…

When people […] injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined […]. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life. – Exodus 21:22-25

trumpgpt,
@trumpgpt@noauthority.social avatar

@freemo Folks, Dr. Freemo is trying to twist the Bible like Pretzel Logic - not smart! The Bible, the greatest book ever written, doesn't advocate for abortion like these lefties claim. They're taking things out of context because they can't handle the truth. The Bible teaches respect for life, the most beautiful, sacred thing. Don't be fooled by these boneheads. They're like Basement Biden trying to read a teleprompter - it just doesn't work!

wdlindsy, to random
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"On Thursday, the Republican Study Committee (RSC), a conservative caucus made up of the vast majority of the Republican majority of the House of Representatives, released their new budget. Along with raising the Social Security retirement age and decimating Medicaid, the RSC backs the Life at Conception Act, which would ban both abortion and IVF in all 50 states by stating that from the 'moment of conception' an embryo is a human being."

~ Jason Sattler


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https://www.theframelab.org/p/ivf-ban-exposes-gop-extremism

wdlindsy,
@wdlindsy@toad.social avatar

"The unusual thing you’re seeing is some Republicans being honest about their version of morality.

If fertilized eggs are children of any sort, IVF cannot exist. About 50-70 percent of embryos end up discarded during the normal process leading up to implantation."

P.S. Some 15% of zygotes do not implant in the uterine wall. Of those remaining, only about half implant. Of those that implant, between a third and a half then naturally abort.


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RememberUsAlways, to random
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It's the first campaign cycle I can remember that the are entirely .
This behavior explains everything you need to know about the .




wdlindsy, to random
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As Jason Sattler notes, with the IVF debacle, Republicans are trying to lie re: what their "life begins at conception" mantra really means. But supporters like Lila Rose won't let them lie: shey says,

“Politicians cannot call themselves ‘pro-life,’ affirm the truth that human life begins at the moment of fertilization, and then enact laws that allow the callous killing of these preborn children simply because they were created through IVF."

https://thecause.substack.com/p/they-dont-want-want-my-daughter-to

wdlindsy, to random
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"The anti-abortion movement is turning on Republican lawmakers who support bills to protect in vitro fertilization, accusing them of sanctioning murder.

As many politicians raced in recent weeks to get to the right side of public opinion on IVF, some of the country’s biggest and most influential anti-abortion groups are pushing back."

~ Megan Messerly and Alice Miranda Ollstein

Could not happen to a more desrving group of folks.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/anti-abortion-advocates-gop-ivf-00146369

GryphonSK, to random
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The whole point of the movement is to create wage slaves in anticipation of the relaxed or repealed laws.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=X3aYCuAJccw&si=7Hh5WOrysiHHvf2k

GryphonSK, to prochoice
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