jdp23

@jdp23@indieweb.social

strategist, software engineer, entrepreneur, activist ... also at @nexusofprivacy and a bunch of other places

#strategy #equity #justice #technology #policy #disinfo #privacy #algorithmicJustice, #intersectionality #activism #organizing #software #startups ...

And #nobot without permission. Opt-out isn't consent, but it's the only real option we have here.

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jonny, to fediverse
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been searching "Lemmy" on Reddit since the API limits were announced, and I am seeing it pick up a bit. this thread on selfhosted was interesting because these are likely the ppl that would be setting up instances. talking about how needs to fix up its docs, and mirroring some of the same criticisms as twitter v. masto.

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/140op93/host_your_own_community_if_reddits_api_rules_go/

it might be interesting for the fedi to get an influx to a non-masto project, but it seems like that'll need a bit of work to make happen

jdp23,

@jonny great point about the differences in power structure on reddit vs twitter. Also reddit is disproportionately white, just like the fediverse, so it's a more natural match (which isn't necessarily a good thing)

Here's a thread with some discussions about context and more generally forum perspectives (Julian on that thread is a founder of NodeBB)

https://mastodon.social/@trwnh/110427864902443212

@jayeless has a good post on Lemmy and KBin, including a discussion of the tankie factor.
https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives.html

jdp23,

@jonny @maegul In general I think people looking for reddit alternatives aren't likely to find what they want on Mastodon as oppose to something more aggregator-y or forum-y. Mainline Mastodon's got a lot of other priorities and they're not likely to prioritize this mode. Agreed about forks and variants as a useful complement.

jdp23,

@jonny yep. a capability-based protocol would be a much better basis that activitypub for all of this. i was just talking about how I view Mastodon, ActivityPub and the current fediverse as a prototype at scale. Does it make more sense to try to add capabilities, or focus on a protocol that has them from the beginning (and then think about a compatibility mode for current activitypub-based systems that don't)?

https://calckey.social/notes/9flsima1th1wx2so

@jayeless

majorlinux, to random
@majorlinux@toot.majorshouse.com avatar

Seems like I've been reposting some stale content.

I'm gonna need to post some new stuff soon.

jdp23,

@majorlinux think of it as "evergreen", not stale 😎

jdp23,

@majorlinux just doing my bit to bring the positivity!

BlackAzizAnansi, to random
@BlackAzizAnansi@mas.to avatar

Like, is it not weird that most people are acting like covid isn't a thing anymore?

jdp23,

@BlackAzizAnansi it's very weird. But it's the message that's getting pushed hard by.media and politicians so it's not that surprising.

ThisPlaceAgain, to random

No one ever refers to Beyoncé here and it’s the weirdest thing.

The Family Chantel I Cant Live Like This GIF by TLC

jdp23,

@carmenmitchell @ThisPlaceAgain @stephaniepixie Yes to some extent but Black Twitter was a thing by 2009 (just a couple of years after Twitter started) and always had a strong focus on news and cultural events. By contrast we're now more than 6 years since the first big Mastodon influx, in 2017. So the norms here have built for a lot longer. It'll be interesting to see how things evolve.

Rush, to fediverse

I heard rumours that the team is working on something with support intended for text-based updates to followers. This would mean ~1 Billion active monthly users would come out of nowhere onto the .

What do all of you think about this? Would you want your instance to block this, or would you do so yourself?
:boost_requested:

jdp23,

@Rush here's a link to various polls about what people think. https://indieweb.social/@jdp23/110449514218436826

ben, to random
@ben@werd.social avatar

There should be a non-profit accelerator for end-user open source projects that have the potential to make the world more equal, inclusive, and democratic.

jdp23,

@tokyo_0 the EU's funded work on various fediverse software including Mastodon but it's just a drop in the bucket of what's needed. And I'm not sure how much that's contributed to Mastodon being more polished than other implementations, it's only a small part of Masto's funding (most comes from crowdsourcing) and most Masto improvements have initially come from unpaid community members. So while EU funding is great, I wouldn't say it's taken care of it!

@ben

jdp23,

@ben have you been pitching this idea? Seems like the time is right!

fastfinge, to accessibility

Hey @mastoblind and other and folks: are there any focused instances or communities yet? Do we know the status of Lemmy with a ? The mod team over at /r/blind has been discussing the way forward for us if the API closes. We have no firm plans or anything, but it would be good to know things about where the largest Reddit alternative stands, and if moving the r/blind community to the is even a workable proposition at the moment.

jdp23, (edited )

@fastfinge great question, looking forward to hearing what if anything people say. kbin's another open source reddit-like link aggregator, and it's been getting a lot of buzz recently, so might also e worth looking at.

jdp23,

@wendyg Everything old is new again!

@fastfinge @mastoblind here's a good article by @jayeless looking at Lemmy and kbin

https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives.html

jayeless, to random

I wrote a little blog post about my thoughts on the shenanigans Reddit is pulling, and the current state of the Fedi Reddit-likes, Lemmy and kbin 🙂

https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives.html

jdp23,

@jayeless very good post, thanks for the clear descriptions -- and for foregrounding the political aspects! One of my concerns about lemmy is that softwrae projects wind up embedding the core devs' values, so even hosting your own lemmy doesn't fully insulate you from that.

ben, to random
@ben@werd.social avatar

👀 #known #indieweb https://github.com/idno/known/releases

jdp23,

@ben Known lives!!!!!

sarahgilbert, to random

Moderation often kind of sucks—there’s either too much, and marginalized folks are silenced, or there’s not enough, and things like hate, harassment, and disinfo spread.

But what if moderation could be empowering? There are lots of proposed alternative models to improve moderation. In my new paper, coming out in CSCW soon, I argue that moderation needs to account for power to help us understand where it works, where it breaks down, and why.

Pre-print available here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.11250.pdf

jdp23,

@sarahgilbert the abstract looks great, looking forward to reading it!

wynch, to ai

I was just told by Kurt of Spawning.ai, "The reason we cannot opt out accounts on any social media platform is due to how the images are stored. They are not stored on a private server you control but are part of a larger cloud with umbrella URLs that are not necessarily in your control, and we cannot opt out all of mastodon."
...but can't we though? Can not be built in to Fediverse server software?

jdp23,

@wynch It's a great idea but it probably wouldn't have any legal force (at least in the US). robots.txt is a similar idea for search engines but there was a case back in the mid-2000s where the court found that ignoring it didn't cause liability and as far as I know there haven't been any decisions the other way.

hrefna, to internet
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    jdp23, (edited )

    @hrefna 💯. As I've been doing various polls about blocking Meta, I've been very careful to phrase it as "assume that ..." It's still interesting to see how people think about things, even knowing that's not the likely implemetation!

    EDIT:I meant the 💯 for the entire thread, not just the last post!

    darnell, to internet
    @darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

    When launches their killer, will be lucky if his platform is worth $4 billion.

    👉🏾 Twitter value keeps falling under Musk, now worth a third of what he paid https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/twitter-value-keeps-falling-under-musk-now-worth-a-third-of-what-he-paid/

    jdp23,

    @darnell I agree but I also don't think Elmo (or whoever's manipulating him) is particularly concerned about short-term market valuation. If Twitter is successful in transforming into the social media equivalent of Fox News, getting their candidate into the White House, and advancing fascism, then their profits and valuation will bounce back.

    @orthoheterodox1

    jdp23,

    Although to be clear I do agree that Elmo and others would have liked short-term valuation to be higher so they can raise more money and don't have to take write-downs if they're doing mark-to-market (as Fidelity is). But that ship had clearly sailed a few months ago and I'm not sure the difference between a $20B valuation and $4B valuation. matters that much to them in a short term.

    @darnell @orthoheterodox1

    popcornreel, to fediverse
    @popcornreel@mas.to avatar

    The myth of San Francisco as a “liberal” city is overblown. If you study the history of SF you will see it is anything but. Periods of time have existed where currents of change and forward-thinking prevailed, but this city and its politics is moderate to conservative.

    jdp23,

    @fifilamoura 💯. And the new money is mostly very libertarian or "moderate" as well. @popcornreel

    jdp23,

    Case in point for the SF "veneer" @fifilamoura talked about above:

    The city just named a "Drag Laureate", to be an ambassador for the city's drag and LGBTQ+ communities. Good! But ...

    When a slot on the Board of Supervisors opened up, instead of appointing Honey Mahagony (a trans woman of color who as Chief of Staff to the supervisor who was moving on was the logical choice), the Mayor appointed a cis white guy who had been SFPD's comms person.

    @popcornreel

    jdp23, to random

    Beaking Bad

    [About a penguin who starts selling meth]


    jdp23, to random

    Heel of Fortune


    ophiocephalic, to random

    Did you know Meta (Facebook, Instagram) ran a non-consensual emotion control experiment on almost 700,000 of its users, during which it skewed their feeds to be more dark and sad, then monitored and recorded their behavioral changes?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds

    jdp23,

    "Illegal, Immoral, and Mood-Altering" (by @jtlg ) goes into the detail on why the Facebook emotion manipulation experiment was illegal (as well as imoral) @ophiocephalic

    J12t, to internet
    @J12t@social.coop avatar

    Meta is planning to implement ActivityPub? Not so fast IMHO.

    Parsing the recent leaks on their "Instagram for your thoughts" / P92 / Barcelona app.

    Blogged: https://reb00ted.org/tech/20230522-what-the-meta-activitypub-not-so-fast/

    jdp23,

    Actually @mike, I 'm sure you've already thought of this but Flipboard also has a great opportunity to provide a client API. Of course Meta has the advantage of (virtually) infinite resources, but Flipboard has the even bigger advantage in many people's eyes of not being Meta.

    {Sparked by @Jdreben's comment at https://mastodon.world/@Jdreben/110467646066545817 )

    @J12t

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