bkm,
@bkm@mastodon.world avatar

These people are fucking stupid.

Barbramon1,
@Barbramon1@mas.to avatar

@bkm Just checked Trump GoFund Me you posted about and it's up to $30K.
There are now at least eight others raising money for Trump. Most of them have collected ten or twenty dollars so far.
Does Go Fund Me have any rules regarding who can solicit money for what purpose? This doesn't pass the smell test.

thepoliticalcat,
@thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social avatar

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    @thepoliticalcat @bkm I am not certain, but since this was a civil judgement, not a criminal case, is this somehow different? He broke the law, but he's not considered a criminal?
    Traffic tickets are defined as criminal, but fraud to the tune of hundreds of millions is not? Crazy, no?
    Or is just that Go Fund Me no longer has standards? If so, maybe I will start one for Trump and give all the money to Democrats of my choice. Just kidding, but how would they know?

    Barbramon1,
    @Barbramon1@mas.to avatar

    @bkm Only $354,992,296 left to go! 😁

    benroyce,
    @benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm

    "I admire Trump because he's a successful businessman"

    ...

    "Trump is asking for money, let me give him some"

    🤦

    The essential nature of the grift and the con and the scam that is Donald , hatched during his deranged lies about Barack , extending into his tirades against Mexican immigrants, and continuing through his Muslim ban shortly after the took office:

    Uair,
    @Uair@autistics.life avatar

    @benroyce

    That's my boy. I love that quote.

    LBJ was a texas oilman, a brutal, evil motherfucker, and almost certainly, personally, a stone bigot. He was known as "The Hammer".

    And he hammered the civil rights legislation through a racist congress.

    Politics is strange.

    benroyce,
    @benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

    @Uair

    It started before LBJ, but accelerated under him because of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: the defection of the Southern racist Dixiecrats from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party, where they remain today.

    You'll encounter trolls saying things like "the Democrats are the party of the KKK" or "the GOP is the party of Lincoln."

    Ignorant of history or purposefully lying about it.

    Uair,
    @Uair@autistics.life avatar

    @benroyce

    Considering how long ago was that realignment, i'd lean heavily toward "purposeful lies". Anybody aware enough to know Lincoln was republican knows the parties flip flopped. It's...not hard to spot.

    benroyce,
    @benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

    @Uair

    don't underestimate people's ignorance. there's still people who assert the Civil War was about state's rights and not slavery. people hear things and they repeat them. they don't investigate or question their assertions if the assertions support their biases

    but yes, there's also the trolls who know better but don't care because the lies mean "winning"

    cy,
    @cy@fedicy.us.to avatar

    Is it alright if I assert it was about autocratic rule and dominion of the railroads? Nobody paid federal income tax before the Civil War...

    benroyce,
    @benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

    @cy

    nope, you can't do that, that's a lie

    because when the states seceded, they made statements of secession. in those statements, they specifically said exactly what their concern was

    and they were all variations of "we are doing this to continue slavery"

    read them yourself

    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

    100% the reason for the Civil War, in their very own words, the clearly enunciated reason for the states leaving the union, was slavery

    period

    anything else is a complete lie

    Pagan_Animist,
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    @Pagan_Animist @benroyce @cy Cheers for boosting this, Connie, and to you, Ben, for posting it in the first place.

    Uair,
    @Uair@autistics.life avatar

    @benroyce

    Yeah. True. I'm surrounded by monumental ignorance. Just the other day i overheard two guys talking about that show some nitwit put on for congress, sticking a spoon to herself and claiming the covid vaccine magnetizes you.

    I still cut them no slack. Real information is available, still. I can find it. Nobody has the right to be ignorant in a way that harms others, and nobody has an excuse for not educating themselves to some bare minimum to understand the world.

    charleekress,

    @Uair @benroyce "No one has the right to be ignorant in a way that harms others"

    That's the quote. It doesn't need more or less. Brilliant.

    barney,
    @barney@mas.to avatar

    @benroyce

    You've reminded me of this 2019 NYT investigation, which showed that, in 1990 and 1991 at least, Trump was literally the single worst businessman in the country.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

    @bkm

    benroyce,
    @benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

    @barney @bkm Trump lost money on a casino. What kind of businessman loses money on a casino?

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    @Pagan_Animist @bkm

    of all trump's issues, it's really the issue that leaves me most flabbergasted, on the terms of why anyone finds him appealing: his supposed richness and business savvy. but buy this crappy NFT. but help me fund my legal defense. held pay for this wall. etc

    WHY do people, in the context of just this financial topic, not see how they are hoodwinked and conned?

    lydialurch,
    @lydialurch@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm Trump is a human slot machine that never pays off but they can't quit now because they've already put so much into it.

    bkm,
    @bkm@mastodon.world avatar

    @lydialurch

    Let them spend their savings.

    lydialurch,
    @lydialurch@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm They'll give him what's left over from buying guns and ammo. Then they'll complain about the price of groceries.

    RememberUsAlways,
    @RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

    @bkm

    Hero

    slcw,
    @slcw@newsie.social avatar

    @bkm These people are two months behind on their rent, but they're gathering all the money they can get their hands on to help a literal billionaire pay his legal obligations.

    dannotdaniel,
    @dannotdaniel@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm @tootsnotreal cheeze --neighbors 0

    tootsnotreal,
    @tootsnotreal@mastodon.social avatar

    @dannotdaniel @bkm
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    dannotdaniel,
    @dannotdaniel@mastodon.social avatar

    @tootsnotreal @bkm

    vampire slayer 👀 🧀

    MHowell,

    @bkm We ALL need to start the exact same fundraiser to baffle his supporters.

    emmreef,
    @emmreef@mastodon.world avatar

    @bkm shhhh...let them donate. Less money to donate to other Republican candidates.

    bkm,
    @bkm@mastodon.world avatar

    @emmreef with Lara Trump co-chair of RNC, there is NO money going to other candidates

    jrredho,
    @jrredho@mastodon.world avatar

    @bkm

    Alina looks like she's just discovered that there's no way she's gonna get paid. They always have to learn the hard way.

    Personally, I like that look on her.

    paezha,
    @paezha@mastodon.online avatar

    @jrredho @bkm @bkahn

    Alina could not fake being smart hard enough to keep Trump from losing his shirt

    weezmgk,
    @weezmgk@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm Is raising money for fraud penalties permitted under GFM's ToS?

    I can't look at the moment but I suspect it isn't

    weezmgk,
    @weezmgk@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm I reported the fundraiser as fraudulent

    "This fundraiser supports remunerating Donald Trump for criminal fines levied against him for committing fraud. If this isn't against the GFM Terms of Service, it should be. Does the fundraiser have an arrangement with Trump to receive the funds? There is a high probability that this is a fraudulent fundraiser."

    maddad,
    @maddad@mastodon.world avatar

    @bkm

    Seriously...😂 😂 😂

    mentallyalex,
    @mentallyalex@beige.party avatar

    @bkm good lord that is impressively ridiculous.

    bkm,
    @bkm@mastodon.world avatar

    @mentallyalex dude... it's insane.
    "Wealthy" man being supported by the poor.

    clintruin,
    @clintruin@mastodon.social avatar

    @bkm @mentallyalex
    It's their whole fucking strategy.
    (even more mind-boggling...it works.)
    🙈 🙉 🙊

    Waitnwallflower,
    @Waitnwallflower@beige.party avatar

    @bkm and one of them looks like rotting bacon.

    bkm,
    @bkm@mastodon.world avatar

    @Waitnwallflower

    Why pick a cut? Let's just call him a rotten pig

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