Hello again #Fediverse, I may need your #fedihelp. So, here's a list of the Fediverse software I'm about to make temporary accounts for to test all the features and differences:
So, did I miss anything noteworthy? Does anyone have any tips or recommendations before I choose a server for any one of these? I'll probably be going for the most popular server on each for improved federation and maintenance.
Note: I'm using #Sharkey right now and Misskey forks are already overrepresented, so that's why it's not included.
The #Fediverse spam attack is pretty interesting as a single user instance owner. Unless someone I follow on #Mastodon interacts with a spam post, I don't get to see it. Consequently, I don't think I've seen a single one via Mastodon.
I use Mastodon to follow a bunch of #Lemmy and #Kbin communities though, which function when viewed by Mastodon as a user boosting every post to their community. Therefore I'm seeing a lot of posts that way (before blocking and reporting).
#kbin is a mostly great Reddit-Like service that collects the fediverse into one place. That is an issue because there are servers out there which post illegal stuff. My day was ruined by reporting those who post that gross, illegal content! ๐คข
I'm probably going to play No Man's Sky for the rest of today to get over the icky and uncomfortable feeling that pervades my mind. Especially since I'm still trying to complete the Living Starship Quest.
Kbin seemed tio take a nice long sleep there. I almost assumed it had fallen over for good. I Really hate the generic, undated 'over the next few days we are working on servers' mesesage.
Some sage scifi: community lessons in a post-Reddit universe. Itโs been eight months since the Reddit blackout. We didnโt know what to expect last June, but we did know that Reddit jumped the shark of Internet relevance. #Reddit#Fediverse#Mastodon#Kbin
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I'm moving over to Mbin (hopefully ernest can sort kbin out, but until then), and id like to bring my subscriptions over without manually doing it. any methods? thanks
There seems to be a few waves of users created just to post spam specifically in kbin. It's quite strange as the posts are so obvious and they keep getting downvoted. I'm also blocking the users but I can't see a way to report them. Is there a better way to handle this situation?
Google provides a tool called PageSpeed Insights which gives a website some metrics to assess how well it is put together and how fast it loads. There are a lot of technical details but in general green scores are good, orange not great and red is bad.
I tried to ensure the tests were similar for each platform by choosing a page that shows a list of posts, like https://mastodon.social/explore.
The rest donโt seem to have prioritized performance or chose a software architecture that cannot be made to perform well on these metrics. It will be very interesting to see how that affects the cost of running large instances and the longevity of the platforms. Time will tell.
Yesterday, there was a post on @fediversenews that went viral. Since a few people are wondering what @fediversenews is, it's a Friendica group. It's a group that's been active since December 2022. Functionally, it works similarly to a Lemmy or Kbin community.
Or, in Fediverse parlance, @fediversenews, is a group actor. Its purpose is for people on the Fediverse to congregate together to speak about a given topic. In @fediversenews's case, that topic is about news pertaining to the Fediverse.
@fediversenews is not the originating profile for messages. Rather, it hosts messages and then boosts them to subscribers of the group. If you are not subscribed to @fediversenews, you will not receive boosts.
However, it's also important to know that because messages do not originate from @fediversenews, it is still possible to receive messages from there even if you are not subscribed. For example, if you follow the original post's author or receive boosts from other accounts.
Unsubscribing to @fediversenews does not prevent you from seeing posts sent there, it just prevents you from receiving boosts specifically sent from the group actor -- if you are already subscribed to @fediversenews. Likewise, blocking @fediversenews does not prevent you from seeing posts that are tagged with @fediversenews. However, blocking does prevent @fediversenews from hosting and boosting replies to the originating post.
If you want to block that topic from your timeline, I highly suggest applying a filter to "Bluesky" and "bridge".
It's important to remember that Mastodon does not yet support group actors. For this reason, not all features of @fediversenews are rendered ideally on Mastodon.
For more information on Fediverse group actors, here's a helpful link:
Not sure if anyone can help, but thereโs a user Iโve tried to block I donโt know how many times now, but I still see their comments and they reply to one of mine about once a week. Not just a single reply, they tend to reply to multiple comments each time they do it if I donโt respond....
Us sitting here with our fiber internet and recent model phones have it pretty good. But the โiโ in iPhone stands for โinequalityโ. Most people in the world still have pretty bad internet and old/slow phones. For a platform to be widely adopted and to serve the needs of those who often miss out, it needs to be frugal in network and cpu usage.
Lemmy
Kbin
PieFed
Home page
4.5 MB
1.65 MB
700 KB โ 930 KB
Viewing a post
360 KB
826 KB (varies)
29 KB
Home pages
Due to Lemmyโs javascript-heavy software architecture, visiting a Lemmy home page involves downloading . And this only gets you 20 posts! Also community thumbnails, even if displayed as a 22px by 22px icon are served directly from their home instances, unresized, which can often be multiple megabytes in size. The home page of lemmy.nz is currently weighing over 9 MB.
Kbinโs home page comes in at a respectable 1.65 MB due to relying less on JavaScript. However it is let down by not using loading=โlazyโ on images so they all need to be loaded immediately and by generating post thumbnails that are twice as big as they need to be.
When viewing a post, we can assume various assets (CSS, JS and some images) are cached due to loading the home page first.
The picture looks similar when viewing a post, which is a bit surprising. One of the usual benefits of the JS-heavy SPA architecture used by Lemmy is that once all the โappโ is loaded into the browser, subsequent pages only involve a small API call. However, going to a page in Lemmy involves two API calls (one for the page and one for the comments) both of which return quite a bit of data. If you look at the โget the comments on this postโ JSON response you can see the developers have fallen into the classic SPA pitfall of โover-fetchingโ. Theyโre retrieving a whole haystack from the backend and then using JavaScript to find the needle they want, which involves transferring the haystack over the internet. Ideally the backend would find the needle and just send that to the frontend.
Kbin sends more data than it needs to when viewing a post, again because of not using loading=โlazyโ which causes every profile picture of the commenters to be loaded at once. Making this simple fix would bring the weight down, from ~800 KB to around 50 KB.
PieFed only sends 10 KB โ 30 KB to show a post, but it varies depending on the number and length of comments. This could be reduced even more by minifying the HTML response but with PieFed under active development I prefer the source to be as readable as possible to aid in debugging.
This is no accident. It is the result of choices made very early on in the development process, well before any code was written. These choices were made based on certain priorities and values which will continue to shape PieFed in the future as it grows. In a world where digital access remains unequal, prioritizing accessible and fast-loading websites isnโt just about technology; itโs a step towards a more inclusive and equitable society.
Hey guys, I'm toying with the idea of deploying a personal kbin instance in Azure. Has anyone done this and have any tips to share? What kind of costs am I looking at?
yeah just join Lemmy Canada took me 10 hours to set up the account so Iโm here I got a kbin as well I will post that later but hello Lemmy Canada ๐จ๐ฆ
Looking at the finalized #FEP 1b12 it seems that there is no explicit definition for what object type a forum topic/thread would fall under. kbin and lemmy both send as:Page which is handled generically by other implementors (as it should). Its omission in the FEP may be completely intentional...
Could send as:OrderedCollection but real-world usage suggests this it's too low-level; worst-case scenario it might get rejected outright ๐คท
Si sa che i buchi neri sono oggetti celesti piuttosto voraci, e se una stella ha la sventura di capitare troppo vicino a un buco nero, viene letteralmente strappata attraverso il processo della spaghettificazione. Questo processo a volte genera un getto di particelle perpendicolare al piano lungo il quale avviene la spaghettificazione che si sposta a velocitร prossime a quella della luce, e che a sua volta genera luce in diverse bande elettromagnetiche (visibile, radio, infrarossi, ecc.).
In effetti la prima osservazione nell'ottico sembra sia stata fatta a fine 2022 e visto che mi era rimasto questo articolo in attesa da allora, mi รจ sembrato giusto scriverci due righe qui su kbin.
Hi, I run a couple of old NSFW kbin communities that iโm trying to revive, but the posts arenโt federating with lemmy.world, despite showing up as communities...
So blimey - what happened there?
Kbin seemed tio take a nice long sleep there. I almost assumed it had fallen over for good. I Really hate the generic, undated 'over the next few days we are working on servers' mesesage.
KES 3.3.0: Improved search and sort
This version introduces one new add-on, a handful of fixes, and improved searching and sorting....
Any way to export and import subscriptions? (kbin.run)
I'm moving over to Mbin (hopefully ernest can sort kbin out, but until then), and id like to bring my subscriptions over without manually doing it. any methods? thanks
So much spam
There seems to be a few waves of users created just to post spam specifically in kbin. It's quite strange as the posts are so obvious and they keep getting downvoted. I'm also blocking the users but I can't see a way to report them. Is there a better way to handle this situation?
Can't block a user
Not sure if anyone can help, but thereโs a user Iโve tried to block I donโt know how many times now, but I still see their comments and they reply to one of mine about once a week. Not just a single reply, they tend to reply to multiple comments each time they do it if I donโt respond....
Link Blocking using Voyager?
Hi,...
Soโฆ what's going on?
Since the beginning of the year, there's been a bit of a pattern over on @kbinDevlog:...
Interested in hosting kbin instance in Azure. Thoughts?
Hey guys, I'm toying with the idea of deploying a personal kbin instance in Azure. Has anyone done this and have any tips to share? What kind of costs am I looking at?
made a profile
yeah just join Lemmy Canada took me 10 hours to set up the account so Iโm here I got a kbin as well I will post that later but hello Lemmy Canada ๐จ๐ฆ
Summoning - The Glory Disappears [Austria, 1999] (www.youtube.com)
Works on kbin too!
Kbin community not federating posts?
Hi, I run a couple of old NSFW kbin communities that iโm trying to revive, but the posts arenโt federating with lemmy.world, despite showing up as communities...