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Hairyblue, to news in Trump's legal advisers urge him to cancel press conference to refute Georgia allegations: Sources
Hairyblue avatar

Gov. Kemp is not having this circus of lies Trump want to perform.

Georgia's Republican governor responded to that with his own social media post declaring, "The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen. For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward -- under oath -- and prove anything in a court of law.”

ptsdstillinmymind,

Kemp ain’t no better. He is an asshole too

flossdaily,

REPUBLICAN* Gov. Kemp.

AND, He put out that response IMMEDIATELY when Trump announced his latest attack on reality.

Where Trump is concerned, almost all Republicans do anything they can to weasel out of criticizing Trump, even when asked.

Hell, even Chris Christie, who is building his presidential campaign on attacking Trump, always pulls his punches when it comes to Trump going to prison. He said Georgia shouldn’t have indicted him. He said New York shouldn’t have indicted him… He says Trump’s conduct was unpresidential, but will not say what we all know: Donald Trump belongs in prison.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Kemp is on his second term and doesn't need Trump or his base. And while he's certainly a bit of a shit, he probably doesn't love the idea of his state government being accused of blatant corruption or incompetence (to say nothing of there perhaps being a small shred of respect for democracy buried somewhere deep in him)

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Christie just wants reduced punishment for people on power for when he gets caught with something similar.

Izzgo,

I think he wants to tempt wavering Trump voters.

athos77,

Yeah, but Kemp also claimed that elections in Georgia are entirely fair, after blatantly meddling in Georgia's elections in order to become governor.

Dalimey,
@Dalimey@ttrpg.network avatar

Yeah, the man definitely doesn’t want people really investigating whether the GA elections were tampered with, because when you open that box who knows which way the shit will fly.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Everyone already knows about rhe gerrymandering and voter suppression.

takeda,

I think it is quite obvious which way the shit would fly. He doesn't want his very own investigation.

soratoyuki, to politics in Federal judge rules Oregon’s tough new gun law is constitutional

The legislation also bans the sale, transfer or import of gun magazines with more than 10 rounds unless they are owned by law enforcement or a military member or were owned before the measure’s passage.

Exempting the police from gun control laws and giving them control over the permit process isn't gun control. It's just funneling arms away from the vulnerable communities that need means of self defense (and are the ones usually on the receiving end of disproportionate state violence) and giving them to the communities that oppress them.

sorta_severine,

Your point is precisely why I voted against this law. Tried to argue it with some of my local friends but don’t think I changed any minds (unfortunately).

Drusas,

You said this far better than I did. The police should have less power over the populace, not more.

VegaLyrae,

It also doesn't make sense to then say that magazines with capacity of greater than ten rounds are not in common usage for self defense.

Presumably, a police officer should ONLY use a firearm in self defense. Unless we are just willing to say that police officers need large magazines to shoot people as punishment?

FoundTheVegan, to world in Emotional outburst on live TV from Gaza over death of reporter encapsulates collective grief
FoundTheVegan avatar

It's easy to take an enlightened centerist approach here saying things like "both sides do awful things" and "everyone should stop". And while to a point that this is true, there has a history of revenge repesials going back devades. But that really ignores the vast power imblance between Israel and the strip.

From basic utilities to free movement on roads to kicking Palestinians out of their homes in favor of Israeli settlers. It's a small easy thing to relax in your chair and say everyone is wrong, but this conflict can end when Isreal stops their oppression. Not providing clean water and bombing medical infrastructure is genocide all by itself. Gaza is an open air prison where movement is restricted. It's high minded arrogant nonsense to say Gaza should focus on their own country when Isreal is literally bombing their water wells.

elouboub,
elouboub avatar

Both sides do awful things. Everyone should stop.

But let's be honest here, the area didn't belong to the zionists for a really long time. The international community forced Palestinians off of their land and for a good 70 years Palestinians they have suffered. Zionists should not have been given the means to invade the Palestinians.

Eikichi,
@Eikichi@lemmy.ml avatar

🥹😘

rdri,

this conflict can end when Isreal stops their oppression

It can end when hamas surrenders.

Not providing clean water and bombing medical infrastructure is genocide all by itself.

It wasn’t a problem before October 7th. Maybe hamas should’ve done something about preventing such a situation, to build water purification facilities etc. Also maybe not build war infrastructure under medical infrastructure.

It’s high minded arrogant nonsense to say Gaza should focus on their own country when Isreal is literally bombing their water wells.

It’s low minded arrogant nonsense to say that Israel should not react to attacks of terrorists who vowed to not stop attacks until they destroy Israel with it’s 9 million population.

GreenMario, to thepoliceproblem in Alabama cop who tasered band leader says he's worried that it might make kids mistrust police

Can’t trust anyone that can legally destroy my life on a whim of emotional bullshit.

ACAB, no one should have any power.

LineNoise, to politics in [Analysis] 'People are hungry for more choices': Inside the Green Party's push for 2024

There’s no latitude for other choices whilst first past the post voting systems remain.

If you want minor parties in the US then your first priority must be establishing ranked choice voting. Any other approach just hands power to your opponents.

gAlienLifeform, to news in Defense moves for mistrial over Daniels' testimony
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar
avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

I have a feeling he doesn’t have the best lawyers representing him.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If he paid lawyers, he might get good ones.

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

Blanche used to be a respected lawyer. I hope the payday was enough to pay for the reputational damage he's taking.

Melkath,

Funny how despite that he keeps getting wrist slaps and impunity from contempt charges.

cheese_greater,

Blanche was actually a pretty respected prosecutor turned defense attorney, its surprising he took the case unless he wanted to get out of law and this was his swansong before transitioning to some sweet talkinghead gig or other well-paid right-wing political operative role

slickgoat,

I’ve been following this trial very closely. Trump is the problem. He demands that his lawyers challenge everything very aggressively. He is enraged if his counsel accepts even trivial facts that make no difference either way. The bigger question is why they put up with his tantrums.

Money, probably…

baldingpudenda,

He’s not gonna pay. He’ll say he lost so why pay. He’s got almost 500 million on bond for business fraud, 5 million for rape of Ms. Carroll, I think I’m missing another big one, and he’s freaking out at donors for not giving enough.

He’s got no field offices set up and only really doing campaign rallies, if you don’t count the desperate emails begging for donations. The only thing keeping his “campaign” going right now is the cult.

orcrist,

Don’t you think his lawyers insisted on a large retainer up front? They all know his finances.

baru,

There have been loads of people who knew he doesn’t pay and still thought they’d be the exception.

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

He's literally having to pay up front. Kise got a $5M retainer.

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

He's been having to pay up front since he lost White House counsel.

IchNichtenLichten,
@IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world avatar

“But Merchan says he was also surprised there were not more objections from the defense and that, at one point, he stepped in of his own accord to restrict Daniels’ testimony.”

theguardian.com/…/donald-trump-hush-money-trial-f…

MagicShel,

Yes, but also in their defense they don’t have the best client. It’s like they deserve each other.

captainlezbian,

Yeah historically they like being paid and really aren’t jumping at the chance to do polarizing work for free

DeepThought42,

“I was surprised that there were not more objections,” from the defense team he added. “At one point, the court … objected, because there was no objection coming from the defense.”

Either they are bad lawyers or they were strategically withholding their objections in order to file the mistrial motion. I fully expect this to be brought up again in an appeal, assuming Trump loses the case.

Granite,
Granite avatar

May it be too late for CheeseTurd by then.

rusticus,

Convicted defendents in New York stay in prison during the appeal process. But of course we wont see that fucking happen because money reasons.

cybersandwich,

That’s exactly what they were aiming for. It was their hail Mary because they know they don’t have an actual defense

echodot,

Can they file for a miss trail on the grounds that they themselves didn’t do the thing that’s expected of them in the time it was expected for them to do it.

Surely a lawyer can’t deliberately do a bad job, and then file for a mistrial.

DeepThought42,

As far as I’m aware nothing will stop them from trying to do that. It’s up to the judge (or judges if it goes to an appeal) to decide whether their argument makes sense. While I’d hope that a competent judge will see their shenanigans for what it is, I have no doubt that someone has made that strategy work at some point.

To be clear, I’m not a lawyer, so naturally don’t take my word for it.

pete_the_cat,

Good!

capt_wolf,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar
A_A,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Saving us clicks : many thanks :)

homesweethomeMrL,

“I don’t believe we are at the point where a mistrial is warranted,” Merchan said.

Feathercrown,

lol get fucked traitors

hoshikarakitaridia,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

I was gonna say, that’s hilarious but nah. I think that’s what the judge thinks as well.

Legally speaking that’s some bullshit.

EdibleFriend, to news in 17-year-old shot and killed by officer conducting welfare check
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

There is no active threat to the community

Except from the COPS WHO KEEP FUCKING SHOOTING EVERYONE YOU STUPID CUNTS

gregorum, to news in Not wearing a mask during COVID-19 health emergency isn’t a free speech right, appeals court says

Wow, they cleared that up just in time

Wrench,

Well, now its case law for the next time it happens. So we have that going for us.

Naja_Kaouthia,
@Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world avatar

What year is it?!

GlitterInfection,

Richard Nixon… THE ACTOR?

gregorum, (edited )

2020 - S05E38 - No Mask, No Rights

A federal appeals court has shot down claims that there’s a First Amendment right not to wear face masks during the COVID-19 outbreak. A federal appeals court shot down claims Monday that New Jersey residents’ refusal to wear face masks at school board meetings during the COVID-19 outbreak constituted protected speech under the First Amendment. The 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling in two related cases stemming from lawsuits against officials in Freehold and Cranford, New Jersey. The suits revolved around claims that the plaintiffs were retaliated against by school boards because they refused to wear masks during public meetings. In one of the suits, the court sent the case back to a lower court for consideration. In the other, it said the plaintiff failed to show she was retaliated against. Still, the court found that refusing to wear a mask during a public health emergency didn’t amount to free speech protected by the Constitution. - TV-MA, 59 mins

SD, SHD, UHD, Dolby Vision; Dolby Stereo, Dolby Surround, Dolby Atmos

JeSuisUnHombre,

I appreciate the attention to accuracy in your numbering

gregorum,

I touched it up a bit. I had a satirical series going a while back, but I stopped it around “episode 16”. maybe I’ll drop a new one here an there.

winterayars,

Good news! COVID is still going strong, there’s time!

…Wait that is not good news.

Zaktor,

If it helps, they were both shot down by the District court and while their suits requested injunctive relief (which was moot shortly after filing as mandates ended), they also wanted compensation. So the only result potentially being delayed was them getting money.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

At this point people wearing a mask are the ones who stand out. I see maybe 3 or 4 a week.

HikingVet,

I assume at this point they could have a cold and still have to be out in public.

nowwhatnapster,

I just don’t want to get sick. I get sick from catching other peoples airborne illnesses in public. I wear a mask in public to reduce that risk. It’s not that complicated.

shalafi, (edited )

Masks are more to protect other people from your illness. Asians got the memo long ago.

Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Yes, that’s why healthy doctors wear masks in hospitals full of contagious people. To protect the sick people from their health.

Aceticon,

There were actual studies done and that kind of mask (aka “hospital masks”) are more effective at reducing transmission when worn by the person who is sick than by when worn by other people, with the best protection (naturally) achieved when both wear a mask.

(Note that doctors also use masks during surgery and when seeing immuno-compromised patients, so that theory of yours immediatly jumps out as at best incomplete even without knowing about these studies)

There are masks with a much higher protection level which are much better at personal protection (not really meant to protect others from you), such as the PF1, PF2 and so on, but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

So the previous poster was entirelly right.

Looking at the upvotes/downvotes here it’s surprising how fast people seem to have forgotten this kind of information that was circulating widelly during peak COVID pandemic times.

guyrocket, to news in Biden goes into 2024 with the economy getting stronger, but voters feel horrible about it
guyrocket avatar

Wages have not kept up with inflation. Why is this so hard for the media to understand?

eestileib,

It really doesn’t help to have snooty liberal assholes telling those of us on fixed incomes that our financial situation is great because their 401k’s are appreciating and we’re just too stupid to realize how great the economy is.

The Hillary Clintonism runs strong. Bill at least pretended to give a fuck about people. The democratic pitch being “hey, at least we’re not doing a Gaza to you! Be happy with your scraps” needs a rework Stat.

WetBeardHairs,

Wages have shot up like crazy over the past few years. But the FTC has not enforced antitrust regulations over the past 30 years which led to everything being owned by megacorps with no competition - so we’re getting the screws turned on us right now. The FTC is finally engaging in some antitrust measures, but it is too little, too late. It’s kind of hard to blame that on the current regime.

EmpathicVagrant,

Shot up like crazy is a weird way to talk about how the federal minimum wage is still $7.25

CubbyTustard,

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  • EmpathicVagrant,

    And tipping is spreading instead of dying off.

    AlDente, (edited )

    If you are not making the federal minimum after tips, your employer is obligated to pay the difference. Nobody is (legally) receiving only $2.13/hour. $7.25 obviously isn’t enough to live on though.

    E: Downvoted for speaking the truth. If you aren’t making at least $7.25 after tips, and your employer is not paying the difference, they are breaking labor laws. Please report them. And stop parroting that a $2.13 wage is somehow legal. If people are being taken advantage of, they deserve to know that they should be making more.

    CmdrShepard,

    Wage theft beats out all other forms of theft combined. To act like it can’t happen because “that’s illegal” seems pretty naive.

    AlDente, (edited )

    It’s not naive to spread awareness. I’m sure a non-zero amount of the victims aren’t aware their employers are breaking labor laws.

    You’re right that I should have phrased that comment a little differently, as it clearly happens. But if you say people should just sit back and take it employers should be able to get away with it, I couldn’t disagree more.

    radiosimian,

    immigrants seeking a better wage than at home have entered the chat

    Labour laws don’t apply to labour that isn’t on the books. And the US is absolutely taking advantage of that.

    AlDente,

    Abso-fucking-lutely! But if we are now talking about off-the-book labor, how relevant is that to the stagnant minimum wage?

    the_post_of_tom_joad,

    Sorry, (raises hand) i downvoted you because i felt it had nothing to do with the matter at hand. No offense mate

    AlDente,

    No offense taken personally. I felt the same way about the $2.13 claim since, when comparing legal employers, is not possible. Of course, if we accept that some employers break the law, then the $7.25 wage isn’t very relevant anymore either.

    I hope you have a pleasant day!

    ApathyTree,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Lawl try getting them to actually do that. If you make a stink you’ll just get fired for one thing or another. There are plenty of people willing to do that job, since it takes little skill to start.

    AlDente,

    You don’t have to fight your employer directly. Go to the Department of Labor website and file a complaint online.

    themeatbridge,

    Then what happens?

    AlDente, (edited )

    The government tells them to get their shit together or fines them. And if they fire you, you have clear evidence for a wrongful termination case. Or you can just sit back and take it like you seem to be implying.

    Seriously, what is this “then what happens” nonsense? Are you lining up for some sort of gotcha? What happens if you don’t take action? Your employer keeps taking advantage of yourself and others?

    E: I’m sorry for the outburst. I hope you understand how one-liner questions can be seen as a troll response. I appreciate that you have more to say.

    themeatbridge,

    Ok so you’ve never done it. That’s OK, I understand that you’re describing how it’s supposed to work, and it’s easier to blame the victims of theft for not fighting back hard enough.

    But that’s not what happens next.

    What happens next is usually nothing. Maybe the restaurant gets a warning, or maybe the restaurant shuts down and the owners invest in a different location. If you’re very lucky, there will be enough evidence for several employees to go to court as a group, and the lawyer will make a bit of money while everyone who worked there will eventually get a check for half a month’s rent. If you’re unlucky, the employer figures out you reported them and retaliates.

    The department of labor doesn’t have the resources to go after every employer stealing wages, much less investigate every report of retaliation. Employees have extremely slim chances of ever seeing a fraction of what is owed, and restaurant owners almost never have to pay what they owe. 60% of restaurants fail within a year, and that number is 80% by year five. When they fold, they don’t leave behind a fund to pay out pending litigation liabilities.

    AlDente,

    First off, if what you are describing is based on personal experiences, then I am truly sorry that it happened to you. Secondly, what you say about victim blaming doesn’t sit well with me. I feel nothing but rage towards the companies that would steal wages from their employees. My girlfriend in a past life worked at small-town Frisch’s that regularly took advantage of their employees. They weren’t just stiffing them on compensation for inadequate tips, they also constantly told them they had to clock out at closing time and clean up after. I hope their management rots in hell. After all, they did this just to save a few bucks for their regional restaurant chain while screwing over their own team.

    My point, which I admit, was better articulated in other strings of this post, is that saying $2.13/hour is the tipping minimum wage is absolutely unacceptable. The federal minimum wage is $7.25 for everyone. If you are a tipped employee who is not making $7.25/hour after tips, your employer is stealing from you. Everyone deserves to know this, and by repeating the incorrect claim that $2.13 is somehow legally acceptable, it normalizes behavior like the theft against someone whom I had a close relationship with.

    I understand that sometimes the system doesn’t work as intended. I wish this wasn’t the case, but what you say about groups of employees winning anything against their abusive employers gives me hope. These employers don’t deserve to get away with it. However, when you say that the majority of restaurants fail within a year and the vast majority is closed within 5 years, it sounds like an argument that this behavior is somehow necessary for their survival. I don’t agree with that. I believe that any company who cannot adequately compensate their employees, should not be in business. Everyone is entitled to a fair wage (but seriously, a $7.25 minimum wage is not enough to live off).

    WetBeardHairs,

    Your state’s department of labor will turbofuck employers who get reported like that. Wage theft has criminal penalties as well as civil.

    The problem is too many workers either dont know or are scared to report their employers.

    Tlaloc_Temporal,

    Making the customers pay your employees’ directly is just lying about your prices and should be illegal.

    AlDente,

    I can’t argue with that. Also, I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m advocating for a tipping culture. I just want everyone to know that they are entitled to at least (the very low bar of) minimum wage. Any separate tipped-employee minimum wage is a myth, repeatedly claimed by abusive employers.

    Tlaloc_Temporal,

    Ah, fair enough.

    CmdrShepard,

    $15,950 per year with full time employment.

    EmpathicVagrant,

    Which is why 37% of people have multiple jobs, which is why unemployment is down, which is why the wealthy/out of touch pretend the economy is fine, which is why people in power ignore the suffering of the working class.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
    Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

    You work three jobs, huh? Uniquely American, isn't it. That is fantastic that you're doing that. Get any sleep?

    - President George W. Bush to a divorced mother of three. Omaha, Nebraska - February 4, 2004

    Melkath,

    You literally use the term regime to describe yourself.

    SuiXi3D,
    SuiXi3D avatar

    My wage has certainly gone up. I also can’t seem to go grocery shopping without spending $400 now. Literally everything is more expensive, bills included.

    So if I look at my wage as 100%, rent and groceries and bills all take up a larger percentage of that then just five years ago.

    Unless there are enforced laws around consumer pricing, every company on the planet is gonna raise prices when wages go up.

    Buddahriffic, to news in State Department: No evidence Israel is deliberately targeting civilians

    Is there any evidence they are making any effort to avoid or reduce civilian deaths?

    Rapidcreek, to politics in Biden turns 81 as questions about age continue to dominate 2024 race

    Speaking of Biden’s age, did you know that his opponent is a 78 year old rageaholic with the diet of an unsupervised 9 year old?

    vlad76,
    @vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Let’s not have either, then.

    Rapidcreek,

    Sorry mate. It’s one or the other.

    blazera,
    blazera avatar

    Self fulfilling prophecy

    lennybird,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    Math.

    blazera,
    blazera avatar

    No, personal choice

    Shalakushka,
    Shalakushka avatar
    Ensign_Crab,

    You forgot to add “lol” at the end of your gloating.

    BolexForSoup,
    BolexForSoup avatar

    Please for the love of god vote dude

    Che_Donkey,
    @Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hamburders VS. Ice Cream, man

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    One is an out-and-out unapologetic fascist and the other is an old grandpa.

    I’d rather have the old grandpa. The worst he could do is die.

    MindSkipperBro12,

    I just wish any party could put forth a candidate actually worth voting for.

    Hyperreality,

    They're both old grandpas.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    No. Trump is a grandfather. There’s a difference. Grandpas love their grandchildren.

    rivermonster,

    I’d rather have a left party not filled with geriatric fascists or neo libs that stands for something I believe in, rather than a false choice of who is less shitty between two capitalist dumpster fires.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That would be nice, but that is not a choice we have.

    Rivalarrival,

    Not with that attitude and shortage of guillotines.

    PopOfAfrica,

    Unfortunately, there was no real primary, so we weren’t really given much of a choice now, were we?

    Some democracy we have.

    Bearigator,

    Honestly, him dying is very real concern to me. If Republicans keep the House and he passes away, I can certainly see somebody trying to do something to Kamala Harris, as the Speaker of the House is next in line after the Vice President.

    That said, I’d vote for Joe Biden if he was fucking 110, if the other option was Donald Trump. Or any Republican honestly.

    Cosmonaut_Collin,
    @Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

    What if the other option was an actual Elephant?

    Bearigator,

    If only so I can see how they get him/her inside Air Force One, yes.

    Grabthar,

    Ah yes, Operation Dumbo Drop suddenly makes sense.

    rivermonster,

    That’s been the dem strategy for 50 years. Not for anything we need, just less shitty then the worst of the worst. It’s why nothing ever gets better. Two capitalist parties fucking us.

    BolexForSoup,
    BolexForSoup avatar

    Well I personally liked having the protection of Roe v. Wade but a bunch of chucklefucks stayed home and “voted their conscience” so here we are.

    Reality is often disappointing. After this election roll up your sleeves and help create the situation/bolster the candidate you would like to see. Change takes work.

    lennybird,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s a sad state of affairs. It pains me when you see the same insanity trope play out year after year that we need to elect centrist/moderate candidates to cater to ignorance.

    It deflates the energy in the grass-roots progressive movement that tends to do a lot of the inspiration for the Dems. We thus have low Voter enthusiasm (a polled metric in both 2016 and 2020). Then what inevitably happens is all that catering to moderates does little, Republicans hate us anyway, and the Overton Window continues to shift right.

    umbrella,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    From an outside perspective both look very fascist to me. One is overt about it and the other is covert.

    Napain,

    77 but yeah

    bostonbananarama, to news in 'A complete failure': Senate Republicans on a punishing election night

    But Republicans don’t see losses like this, realize they’re unpopular, and adjust their ideas to better represent their constituents. Invariably, in the days and weeks following these losses they make pushes to change voting maps to further gerrymander districts, or alter polling places and times, or just screw with the process. Because no matter the rebuke, the problem must be with the voters, it cannot possibly be their policies.

    tygerprints,

    They always just double-down on their fascist tactics such as gerrymandering and taking away more and more voters' rights. And yet still act surprised when people aren't pleased with their actions.

    jrbaconcheese,

    If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.

    —David Frum

    HawlSera,

    Republicans have always seen elections as a litmus test for the people of america, not a process of American selecting the policies they want enacted.

    A republican didn’t win, the problem is not with policy, the problem is that the people were wrong to not side with them and opposing parties were wrong to be opposing parties.

    I mean hell look at when Pat McCrory lost his re-election campaign in North Carolina because he made hb2, the big bathroom law, the centerpiece of his legacy.

    State Congress immediately passed rules saying that the governor of North Carolina had no political power and was mostly just a figurehead, and we had a lot of comments from supporters of McCrory in North Carolina congress saying that although they lost on hb2, “That they still refused to acknowledge wrong as right”

    And basically put up a bill saying that we could repeal hb2 as long as we agreed that hb2 was the best idea anyone ever had and we should probably never go against it again.

    The person, Roy Cooper, who ousted McCrory was a lawyer who had none of it and basically counted the fucking ways that all of this was not only unconstitutional, but incredibly pathetic

    charonn0, to news in 'A complete failure': Senate Republicans on a punishing election night
    @charonn0@startrek.website avatar

    “Abortion is a matter of conscience and so it’s not just something you change based on political gain. But this is something each individual candidate has to try to figure out for themselves and every part of the country is a little bit different,” Cornyn said.

    Translation: Abortion was never a matter of conscience for the GOP. It has always been about political gain.

    Pat_Riot,
    @Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

    Abortion is a medical matter and none of the government’s fucking business. Their only arguments are religion based and therefore have no business in government consideration, but these fascists have forgotten their place as ‘public servants’ and have decided to just roll on like their little insurrection had worked. It’s really hard to not say anything to get put on a watch list.

    bus_go_fast,

    I don’t even understand why it would be a religious argument. I don’t remember Jesus spending so much time at pro-life rallies.

    PrincessLeiasCat,

    Bingo.

    lolcatnip,

    Could mean other things. Like that they need to get better at voter suppression and lying to voters about the content of ballot initiatives.

    homesweethomeMrL,

    Oh they’re still on it. It’s actually working great. They’ve scored a ton of wins with that shit.

    HawlSera,

    Correct. You know each of these men have some Saucy mistress or a teenage daughter with an active sex life that they had to pay for the abortion of.

    You talk to Donald Trump about an abortion bill in 2016 and he’s probably gonna tell you “Oh Putin already paid that for me”

    I mean I’m not exactly in support of abortion, but it’s pretty obvious that the Republican Party are a bunch of heartless monsters and hypocrites

    burntbutterbiscuits,

    Abortion to me isn’t a matter of conscious or morality to me at all. It’s about looking at the facts and making a logical decision based on the current available information.

    People who are against abortion rights are in my opinion imbeciles who don’t know how to interpret factual information and believe they have the imperative to make life or death medical decisions for other people.

    I don’t give a fuck what your religion says about the morality of other people. People who try to make decisions for other people based on their religion can go sodomize themselves with their religious texts.

    The only person’s actions your religious belief gets to dictate is your own.

    eek2121,

    This.

    Also, if you are a biological male you have no right to any opinion about abortion whatsoever, much less the ability to make it illegal.

    burntbutterbiscuits,

    I would disagree with this statement and call it out for being sexist, to the point of being antagonistic and hateful towards men.

    Anyone can have an opinion about anything they like.

    I can believe in the great spaghetti monster and wear a noodle strainer on my head at the dmv, and raises my fists in glory chanting, pastafari!

    There is a difference between believing in something and using that belief to dictate what decisions other people can and can not make between them and their doctor.

    dogslayeggs,

    If you had said biological males had no right to make abortion decisions, I’d be with you… but saying I can’t even have an opinion on the topic because the way I was born is somewhere between laughably moronic and maliciously sexist. I’m not even saying I should have a say in the decision my partner has if she happens to get pregnant, but I can and will have an opinion. You might consider it an uninformed opinion since I don’t have a life of experience as a woman, but it’s still an opinion. Hell, just being a living human being means having the right to think for yourself, which is the essence of having an opinion. You are saying I don’t have the right to think for myself because I was born a male.

    tygerprints,

    I agree absolutely, healthcare choices are a very personal matter and should never be restricted or abolished. People don't have abortions because they want to murder kids; they have them because of personal healthcare issues and complications that often arise. Even nature itself causes spontaneous abortion, quite often in fact. So for any group of men to delude themselves that they are morally superior for taking abortion off the table is not just ludicrous but in fact as immoral and unnatural as anything people can ever do.

    burntbutterbiscuits,

    Yea right, the only moral failing involved is the one where people try to use their random sky daddy beliefs to dictate other people’s personal choices and actions.

    tygerprints,

    That is a huge moral and humanitarian failing, I agree completely.

    LudwigvanBeethoven,

    As a Christian, I think like this: who am I tot tell you what values you should have? I have my (Christian) values, you can have yours. Anyone who goes against that is against freedom of religion.

    burntbutterbiscuits,

    Absolutely man, I was raised Christian as well, although that’s one of the broadest categories of religion, could mean just about anything lol… technically I believe voodoo is Christian, and so are the Urantia folks and also the Mormons and Catholics…

    tygerprints,

    I'm ass-deep in mormon country, and it truly is as much about magical thinking as voodoo or any other cult is. That people cant' see how the catholic, mormon, and every other church is a big business that feeds off people's gullibility is astonishing.

    turmacar,

    This shouldn’t even be a fringe Christian belief. At least one of Paul’s letters at the end of the New Testament explicitly spells out, “don’t police other people’s behavior”, in reference to non-christian practices not being a matter for christians to worry about. It follows pretty directly from “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

    psycho_driver,

    Yep. Christians are supposed to let the lives they lead be an example for others to follow if they so choose.

    psysop, to news in IRS plans to crack down on 1,600 millionaires to collect millions in back taxes

    How about some billionaires too while we’re at it?

    QHC,
    QHC avatar

    Start with the millionaires to fund investigations into the billionaires!

    reverendsteveii, to politics in 'There's a powerful argument' Trump is disqualified for presidency under 14th Amendment: Kaine

    I mean, its the literal text of the constitution, plain as day. Watching people in “shall not be infringed” t shirts try to backpedal is gonna be fun, but they’re conservatives so they’ll figure out a way the law doesn’t apply to them just like how they carve out an exception for their pornographic bibles in the obscenity laws they write.

    Zorque,

    I mean, they're perfectly willing to ignore parts of the constitution *cough*well-regulated*cough*

    reverendsteveii,

    Once again, just like the Bible

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