panos, to random
@panos@catodon.social avatar

New release! And this is the new official account for the project, under naskya's leadership, give them a follow if you want to stay updated. Best of luck in the new beginning! 🚀

RE: info.firefish.dev/notes/9pdqi3rjl4lxirq3

crossgolf_rebel, to fediverse

der überall totgelaberte lebt anscheinend immer noch.

Wie sagt man so schön, tot Gesagte leben länger

https://info.firefish.dev/notes/9pdqi3rjl4lxirq3

RE: https://info.firefish.dev/notes/9pdqi3rjl4lxirq3

noellemitchell, to fediverse
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

Firefish isn't dead!! 😃 This is great news. Not sure if this means I will be able to use my firefish.social account, but I'm glad Firefish will be maintained and be updated.

https://catodon.social/notes/9pd38dooa6fgjkde

panos, to random
@panos@catodon.social avatar

Alright, I think we now have a better idea of what's happening with , so I might as well give a small update. Kainoa quit, and left the project to naskya, who is a person I appreciate very much, as they've always been kind and polite and willing to help. I also think they're very devoted to Firefish, and basically were the last person actively caring about the project. As far as I know, they intend to keep maintaining and developing Firefish, and a new stable version will finally soon be released. This is great news, as you don't need to worry that your server is running unmaintained and vulnerable software. So, alarm off everybody, no need to abandon ship.

As for us, we're standing by our decision to rebase to . The changes we want to do are long term plans, but we've started redesigning some things and, whenever we are ready, I hope we'll show you something worth your attention. So yeah, firefish, iceshrimp and catodon are all alive and valid options (the first two to be precise, for the time being). All projects share code fixes and I think we're on very good terms, here in our corner of the fediverse. Enjoy the ride.

bumble,

@panos Great news. It's good to know our friends will have a maintained solution. ​:bananadance:​

hnb, to random Japanese
@hnb@giraffe.eepy.cloud avatar

Just came into the knowledge from some form of official announcement...

KainoaさんがFirefishのプロジェクトから正式に去る事、そしてメンテナー(であってる?)の権限をなすきゃさんに譲渡したとのアナウンスがあったみたいですね...

My maintenence status on the project
https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

noellemitchell, to random
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

I just remembered when I was active on I was part of a book club group on there 😭

Now that's gone as well I suppose 😔

box464, to random
@box464@mastodon.social avatar

The founding developer of Firefish has officially stepped down from the project. Keys are being transferred to one of the dev leads.

It appears Firefish IS still breathing, albeit flopping around at the edge of the pond right now.

Many instances migrated to other Forkeys - Sharkey or IceShrimp. A newcomer, Catodon, is also emerging.

Glad to see Firefish given a chance to survive, and wish them the best!

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

#Firefish #Forkeys #IceShrimp #Sharkey #Catodon

gabek, to fediverse

Sad to hear about , but it's something to keep in mind.

If one person is keeping a project alive and is unable to build a long term, sustainable team around the project, relying only on that individual, that project is fragile.

Apropos of nothing, I'd love if I could build a long term, sustainable team around , if this sparks your interest at all! If I get hit by a bus tonight, Owncast is dead tomorrow.

chikorita157, to random
@chikorita157@sakurajima.moe avatar

We finally have a statement from the former Firefish owner/lead Developer. It seems that the Firefish site and Gitlab is given to one of the maintainers. Still, I kind of consider it EOL as the new person in charge isn't a programmer. It's pretty much doesn't change anything unless a new lead developer decides to take on the project. I do wish Kainoa the best in his future endeavors.

There are other options, such as Sharkey, IceShrimp and Catodon. However, IceShrimp is doing a rewrite in C#, so it's basically going to be it's own thing, which might be interesting to try, but not something I would use outside of personal use. Same with Catodon, which might use IceShrimp's C# rewrite.

I have a lot of trust in Sharkey's team in making sure something like this doesn't happen while making it community driven. Taking the Glitch-soc approach like with Mastodon will make Sharkey a more viable option since it’s just Misskey with extra features, some making it to mainline Misskey like with some things from Glitch-Soc making it to vanilla Mastodon.

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

ghose, to Catroventos Galician
@ghose@gts.xmgz.eu avatar

Tuba, o cliente para o :fedi: , está dispoñible en :galicia: desde a versión 0.6.3.

Xa chegou a algúns repositorios, pero é de agardar que nos próximos días/semanas se espalle.

et al.

Cefr, to fediverse
@Cefr@beige.party avatar

If Firefish is going to come back, Kainoa won't have a hand in it. They quietly handed over the keys to the repo to a maintainer... who has publicly stated they aren't a programmer and are just looking after commits. Not exactly a signal things are starting back up.

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

Unless there is an announcement soon about someone taking up development again, I think it's safe to say Firefish is over as a Fedi platform.

Optimism wants to say that someone will, but at this point even if someone does it'll be playing catch-up to the current state of affairs. It isn't possible for someone to come off of the street and say "I'll do it" and go back to the pace that was happening last summer immediately. (But it's not impossible for me to be wrong and six months from now someone does. I'm just not banking on it happening. Even the Firefish name itself might be too damaged in reputation to even take back up.)

#Iceshrimp, #Sharkey, and #Catodon are #Misskey derivatives who are continuing onward with things. All three of them have disassociated with FF completely so it seems Misskey still has a future with non-Japanese users. (Iceshrimp even spent time on a new non triangular logo to further separate from Firefish.) Server admins who wanted to consider a Firefish instance but shied away from the drama last fall may want to follow those projects instead.

If your fedi server is still on Firefish, don't be surprised if an announcement "were taking signups on our new Plombus server, in X months Fleeb will be decommissioned" comes down sometime soon. Internet services without recent updates are asking for trouble from exploits and vulnerabilities. Also, without an active FF developer to fix standing issues (or a skilled DB admin on your instance's behalf to whittle the database and schema to fit the new system as well as possible) a cut-over migration where users don't lift a finger isn't in the cards like the Calckey to Firefish migration last September. It likely will be up to you to decide to either move your account Mastodon style (no post migration, just your follower lists and a link back to the prior server) or to just start fresh.

#Firefish #Calckey

fasija, to fediverse French
noellemitchell, to fediverse
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

Statement from Kainoa about stepping down from the Firefish project. 😞 So I guess it's official.

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

noellemitchell, to mastodon
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

I decided I'm keeping the link for my account listed on my profile because I'm not ready to let go 😭 Firefish is not dead 😩 it's not

o76923, to random
@o76923@kitty.social avatar

Did die while I wasn't looking?

bumble, to random

If you're in the market for a new server to join, please come along and try our server, iBe.social.

If you loved and need a new, stable home you will love us more.

Tell all your friends ​:bumble:​

bumble, to random

I am delighted to announce that here at iBe Social we have migrated to ​:sharkey:​

Sharkey is a fabulous variation of Misskey, with some great little extras. I hope everyone will enjoy using it as much as we have during our testing phase. We had setup a test server to let our users play around with it to decide if it was what they wanted.

served us well, but it was time to move on to new and exciting things in Sharkey.

Massive kudos to @Amelia who did all the work on the migration. She took an unbelievably impressive 26 minutes to do the migration; I hardly had time to check my honey stocks!

Proud to be part of Sharkey, and open for visitors.

lightone, to random

Recently I've seen posts that project is in trouble? Its flagship server being unavailable, and people are impatient about new releases. Sad if true, though I hope its death is slightly exagerrated. Anyhow, I've learnt that people are migrating to other Misskey forks (mainly , , and ) And Iceshrimp devs are rewriting the JS backend on C# 😯

Amelia, to random

i think what happend to is really said kainoa basicly had to pick between it or well living his life, and its obvious what is the better choice, but its also sad for all the that now have to deal with this with out there even being announcement or the all the users on the firefish instances, as everything got taken down without any notice, firefish should have been alot more transparent about what was going on, now all servers are dead including fedi.software the host of the @firefish account and firefish.social host of the @kainoa account, which means there is basically no more way for them to do a public announcement over fedi now that both their main accounts do not exist anymore,

this entire situation is very sad, but please don't start harassing anyone involved

May firefish rest in piece, you served us well, up untill you didn't

Sharkey, to random

We are offering direct help to any one migrating from to , as the firefish project is now officially unmaintained, please remember tho that sharkey is a misskey soft-fork

also we won't be tolerating any harassment towards any of the firefish devs

fedifaschifo, to fediverso Italian
@fedifaschifo@mastodon.social avatar

I server FireFish.Social e joinfirefish.org sono completamente inattivi e non rispondono nemmeno più ai ping: significa che firefish è ufficialmente morto?

@fediverso

L'analisi di @Sharkey

https://shonk.social/notes/9p6ws5qv6h6x0518

Linux_Is_Best, to fediverse
@Linux_Is_Best@mstdn.social avatar

Att Fediverse

The flagship instance of Fire Fish is now OFFLINE.

The significance of this event is many of the Fire Fish Developers have previously come forward claiming the lead developer vanished. Unfortunately, the lead developer treated their project as a centralized project, meaning that they were the sole person making decisions, giving no access to accounts or code changes or even donations, despite having a team behind them.

1 of 2

Linux_Is_Best,
@Linux_Is_Best@mstdn.social avatar

2 of 2

Fire Fish is now a dead project with the lead developer missing for more than half a year, the remaining developers disbanding, and today, the flagship instance Fire Fish dot Social going OFFLINE.

It is strongly recommended that you migrate your instance to another platform.

You have options

  • Sharkey
  • Misskey
  • Mastodon

Please consider Fire Fish no longer receives updates, including security.

Sharkey, to random

The FireFish.Social and joinfirefish.org servers are completly down and don't even respond to pings anymore, this means is officially dead, the servers no longer run, the git server still runs but seems to be run by a different person than kainoa

We're sad to see firefish go down like this, and we're especially sad about all the users who's data is now gone due to both major instances going down

while this is a major blow to a lot of people, please don't start harassing any one that was involved in the firefish project harassing people isn't going to help, we should see firefish as something to learn from to see what went wrong and prevent something like that happening in the future

and a note be added, Sharkey is not a firefish fork, and does not intent feature parity with it, Sharkey is a misskey softfork its supposed to update with misskey, unlike other fork we will not do big actions like rewrites

fasnix,
@fasnix@dresden.network avatar

@Sharkey
Has there been any announcement about shutting down?

sayunu, to random Japanese
@sayunu@mofu.kemo.no avatar

https://catodon.social/notes/9nvp68a5a10zrdi2

・ Firefish のソフトウエア開発の中心人物である Kainoa さんがしばらく音信不通になっている。

・ サーバー firefish.social では深刻な技術的問題が続いている。

・ Kainoa さんは Panos さんや Namekuji さんなどの数人を「コアメンバー」に招いたけど、対等に権限を分けたわけではないので本人以外では手出しに限界がある。

・ Panos さんと Namekuji さんで Misskey‐系の新規プロジェクトである Catodon を発足させた。

sayunu,
@sayunu@mofu.kemo.no avatar

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

Firefish の Kainoa さんが、オーナーを下りると発表したみたい。あまり詳しい事情は書いてないけど、日本語的に言うと…

・ リアルの人生で手一杯になり、このプロジェクトを維持できなくなった。
・ naskya さんに権限を譲ったので、今後どうするかはお任せする。

…との事。

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