lauren, to random
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org avatar

By the way, in case you lost track of this among other news, the scientific consensus now is that "LK-99" is not a room temperature (or any other kind of) superconductor, and that the "levitation" noted was a magnetic effect caused by copper sulfide impurities. Oh well ...

FMarquardtGroup,
@FMarquardtGroup@fediscience.org avatar

@lauren But despite the outcome, this was a very nice teaching experience: In contrast to other big science claims of the past decade, this one could be tested by many labs and the public could see how science really works. So, overall, a positive!

dzen, to science

Bad Science and Room Temperature Superconductors - Sixty Symbols

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-AgmoZ5mo

@science @videos

J12t, to random
@J12t@social.coop avatar

"The data have spoken." I like that phrasing.

Even if it means it's not a superconductor. Bit unclear to me how researchers could get that wrong in the first place.

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary verification it seems to me, otherwise extraordinary embarrassment ensues ...

Cozy,

@J12t A bit pretentious of CMTC. Is a superconductor? Unknown. Is what CMTC synthesized, according to the scant details available in pre-publication, LK-99? Probably not. There’s no shortage of LK-99 replication attempts that have reported unusual or interesting properties.

adamjcook, to twitter

It is interesting watching (from afar) sheepishly backtrack on the hype.

There were three, maybe four ringleaders as far as I could tell - which included some that are competent in science and physics that should have known better.

But whipping up useless hype gets people paid by Twitter at the moment.

It all really underscores my position on how unsuitable Twitter is for actual science and public education - and that was fairly true even in the pre- Twitter Era.

adamjcook,

Some (perhaps even many) have now argued that the hype was, in fact, good for science.

Sure, if the public was left with an understanding of actual scientific foundations so that, possibly, the next conversations could be more productive and informed.

A missed opportunity, if there ever was one.

But, crucially, one that us in former “System Safety Twitter” community know all too well - and there, the hype has killed people.

adamjcook,

Believe it or not, the underlying foundations of developing an automated driving system is scientific in nature.

A carefully controlled and exhaustively managed process of safety that must be maintained to directly influence system design.

But “AI hype” easily eclipsed that.

The experts that had tried to explain that on were always marginalized - and some were even viscously attacked.

Ditto for vaccine experts.

The parallels with the Twitter dynamics are obvious.

thejapantimes, to worldnews
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Lazarou, to UFOs
@Lazarou@mastodon.social avatar

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for to be visiting aliens, for to actually be a room temperature superconductor and for Power to be here already, but the evidence just ain't there and hucksters are preying on our optimism.

coreyspowell, to tech
@coreyspowell@mastodon.social avatar

A lot of people got excited by a report that a material called LK99 is a room-temperature superconductor. Researchers raced to validate the claim. Now the early results are out--and they don't look good.

Impressively quick work by scientists around the world! But accessible superconductivity remains an elusive goal. [Thread via the Condensed Matter Theory Center at the University of Md]
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1688747910471561216.html

coreyspowell,
@coreyspowell@mastodon.social avatar

Brutal assessment by @michaelsfuhrer:

"I expected that interest in LK-99 would just die a slow death after no one could replicate it; rarely is a smoking gun found that explains the spurious observations.
But in this case it seems we have a full coroner's report!"

https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.04353

joshua_drummond, to climate
@joshua_drummond@mastodon.nz avatar

To everyone freaking out about how the definitely-real 100% replicable room-temperature superconductor will fix climate change, apparently overnight: what if I told you that there’s a miraculous power source that literally converts sunlight straight to electricity? And that it’s existed for decades? And that, thanks largely to fossil fuel interests, we barely use it?

SomeGadgetGuy, to tech
@SomeGadgetGuy@techhub.social avatar

Maybe the most science-y show I've ever tried to produce! https://www.twitch.tv/somegadgetguy
Give us a share and come join the chat! The show is LIVE!

310 - Qualcomm Takes a RISC, Fusion Power Breakthrough, YouTube Enhanced Playback, Trying to Figure Out LK-99

gelato_al_pollo, to ai
@gelato_al_pollo@puntarella.party avatar

Pause Giant Superconductor Experiments

https://futureofliff.org/

Room temperature superconductors will destroy hundreds of jobs in the magnet production field and need to be stopped until we understand the implications.

chrisschmitz, to Ukraine German
@chrisschmitz@nafo.army avatar

It must be a very stressful time for ekspertz.

They had to pivot from Ukraine War Experts to UFo Experts to Russian Coup Experts to Women Soccer Experts to Maritime Drone Experts and now they need to become Superconductor Experts.

TechDesk, to tech
@TechDesk@flipboard.social avatar

If the LK-99 “superconductor” is the real deal, it could be revolutionary in a number of ways. But it’s not without its share of skeptics. The Verge spoke with a handful of experts in the field to try to sort the science from the hype. https://flip.it/Z4Yw6D

ErikJonker, (edited ) to nature Dutch
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mpesce, to random
@mpesce@arvr.social avatar

First independent verification that LK-99 does in fact display superconductivity at temperatures up to around 300ºK - room temperature. And possibly up to the boiling point of water, folks!

If this keeps up we have a genuine scientific revolution on our hands.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01516

SuperMoosie,
@SuperMoosie@mastodon.au avatar

@mpesce

Look a room temperature super conductor that is patented, needs highly specialised equipment and will be owned by corporations is cool and all.

BUT it is not revolutionary like massive batteries just about anyone can build with a cement mixer and can be built into your house, path, windfarm, solar farm concrete using simple readily available materials.


https://news.mit.edu/2023/mit-engineers-create-supercapacitor-ancient-materials-0731

persagen, to random
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar

First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008

We succeeded in synthesizing superconductor (Tc≥400 K, 127∘C) working at ambient pressure w. modified lead-apatite (LK-99).
LK-99 superconductivity shown w. critical temperature, zero-resistivity, critical current, critical magnetic field, Meissner effect ...

  • 127degC is not room temp
  • nice if true 🤔 👍
  • RT ambient pressure superconductors will be revolutionary when available

persagen,
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar

Addendae 2023-08-02 cont'd

Electronic structure of the putative room-temperature superconductor Pb9Cu(PO4)6O
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00676
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36965545

persagen, (edited )
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar

Addendae 5

@LK99

LK-99 Is the Superconductor of the Summer
Social media users are excited about what would be a breakthrough in solid state physics, but many experts in the field are cautiously skeptical
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/03/science/lk-99-superconductor-ambient.html

persagen,
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar

Addendae 5 cont'd
Some remarks on possible superconductivity of composition Pb9CuP6O25
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01723

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36994122
"I think the important part is that AFAIK the superconductivity only happens within the crystalline structure. ..."

persagen,
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar
persagen,
@persagen@mastodon.social avatar

Addendae 7

LK-99 isn’t a superconductor
Replications pieced together the puzzle of why the material displayed superconducting-like behaviors
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02585-7

  • copper sulfide impurities responsible for sharp drops in electrical resistivity, partial levitation over a magnet that looked similar to properties exhibited by superconductors
  • “I think things are pretty decisively settled at this point” - Inna Vishik, condensed-matter experimentalist at UC-Davis

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