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adamjcook, (edited ) to chicago

I was at Pride all weekend while visiting with my wife (videos and photos soon!), so I missed this Drama concerning that erupted.

Ok.

Let us, again, all put on our hats and take a look at the situation here as I understand it.

Below is the video that kicked the beehive between Tesla defenders and detractors on "what really happened?".

This clearly chaotic video was taken from a larger drive sequence in which FSD Beta was active.

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adamjcook,

The video above was extracted from the Tweet shown below.

If you do not know the players involved here...

Ross Gerber is the individual driving this vehicle. Ross is an ardent Tesla supporter, Tesla investor and a prominent voice within the Tesla Community.

Dan O'Dowd is the individual in the passenger seat. Dan is the creator of The Dawn Project which primarily targets Tesla's program in terms of what it perceives as its public safety issues.

adamjcook,

First off, one really has to "love" the placement of the mobile device charging pads in this vehicle - a vehicle which is unvalidated as it pertains to being equipped with a highly-complex automated driving system, no less.

The placement of these pads ensure maximum driver inattentiveness to the roadway and to the dynamic driving task.

This is not a "side issue". The components are an integral part of the human-machine system in terms of a validation process.

adamjcook, to random

Here is the Hard Truth about software.

If itโ€ฆ

Looks like this; and
Has apps like this; and
Has pop-up notifications like this; and
Has widgets like this; and
Has distracting color palettes like this; and
Has small font sizes like this; and
Entertains people like thisโ€ฆ

it is unsafe.

Full stop.

I could care less what consumers want. Consumers cannot appreciate systems safety. Regulators and systems safety experts should be making the calls.

adamjcook, (edited )

This โ€œEnhanced โ€ product is a massive step in the wrong direction and it should be disallowed.

And do not get me started on โ€™s software or that of several up-and-coming Chinese brands.

YouTube is stuffed full with human drivers messing around with their touchscreens (e.g. messing around with rows and rows of settings, checking efficiency charts, karaoke lyrics on the screen) **for miles **while their vehicles are in motion.

vfrmedia,
@vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de avatar

@adamjcook @markusl @silverhorseman research in Britain from 2020 claims that existing touchscreens of that time can cause more distraction than DUI...

https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-campaigns/infotainment

adamjcook, to fediverse

Which app (preferably for macOS) supports thread composing (I can write an entire thread "off-line" and then publish it all at once)?

I have tried @ivory and @MonaApp so far... neither seem to support it.

Killer feature from that I really need.

With support for image and video attachments.

adamjcook,

@calculsoberic @ivory @MonaApp Apparently, it does!

Someone pointed that out to me on the thread. ๐Ÿ˜

Too bad there is nothing for the Mac thoughโ€ฆ or nothing I have found anyways.

I work better on the Mac.

On the web frontโ€ฆ Elk does not support itโ€ฆ but maybe another web frontend does? ๐Ÿค”

adamjcook,

@calculsoberic @ivory @MonaApp @tootapp is the one, I think...

I think Toot! might be unmaintained though?

Not sure.

The App Store says it has not been updated since March and the Support link leads to a dead end: https://github.com/DagAgren/toot/issues

Maybe it is not a big deal, if it works. I am going to try and do my thread with it today. ๐Ÿคช

adamjcook, to ChatGPT

Another day, another dangerous video.

You know, I have been following Tesla's FSD Beta program for a very long time.

Back around 2015 or so, the mantra was that the FSD Beta was on the cusp of an "AlphaGo" moment.

But, is old news now.

is white hot.

Let's explore why a system capable of partial driving automation (like FSD Beta) and automated driving systems more broadly are decidedly not at all like ChatGPT.

https://youtu.be/4zcqVc37Jcw

adamjcook, (edited )

Simply put, is not a physical, system.

An automated driving system is a physical, safety-critical system.

Although ChatGPT does have some emerging, worrisome public safety components... the totality of the systems safety components for a physical, safety-critical system cannot be fully expressed in software alone.

That means that the failure modes analyses and validation traits will be drastically different.

That matters.

A lot.

adamjcook,

@rysiek I saw that segment.

Wozniak is very much on point.

These vehicles are uniquely dangerous across all other makes and models (for the moment) given the possible presence of this system.

has no underlying systems safety foundation.

And I say "for the moment" because, so far, is being rewarded handsomely by the combination of a complete lack of auto regulations in the US and their own wrongdoings.

The free market dictates that other automakers are soon to follow.

adamjcook, to random
adamjcook,

The source of this video is here on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1657807019703943169

There, the human driver argues that handled this situation appropriately and is "excited" about this behavior.

Many Twitter replies point out that proceeding through an active pedestrian crosswalk is illegal in the State of California.

A back-and-forth argument ensues in the Twitter replies.

The human driver disagrees and makes several, questionable follow-up claims.

adamjcook,

Systems engineering and analysis is, fundamentally, about seeking and answering questions.

Answering questions quantifiably such that we build a solid systems safety foundation underneath the systems that are deployed into the public.

To ask and answer said questions, there needs to be a well-maintained, robust process embodied in every participant of the system.

Without that process, we are only left with hand-wavy, subjective opinion rather than quantifiable fact.

adamjcook, to random

Oh memories.

Taking a break from 's Hate Train on the Hellsite to recall this series of Tweets from a few years ago.

While under-appreciated then and now, the Tweet thread by Musk posted below contains an extremely damning admission and it displays the considerable blind spot associated with remotely updating systems without oversight.

Musk has no clue what he admitted to here, but systems safety experts do.

adamjcook, (edited )

An inconvenience perhaps for customers.

No big deal.

But a potentially deadly situation when CM visibility is lost with a system like a car!

In that Tweet, Musk is hand-waving 's responsibilities in maintaining CM (and a validation process to match) as an "impossibility".

It is not impossible.

It is inherently costly and complex and it will substantially reduce Tesla's flexibility in changing vehicle hardware on-the-fly - an oft-cited competitive advantage.

adamjcook,

The last Tweet in that thread was written by Musk a little over 13 hours after "the issues" were discovered when the second Tweet was published.

For systems of this complexity, no matter how many people are on the team, no matter how talented the people are on the team, there is zero chance that the "10.3.1" point update was actually validated.

There simply is not enough wall clock time.

Musk and just tossed it out, like if they were shipping a video game update.

adamjcook, to random

Ok. So recently, had published an "Impact Report" which contained a slide presenting some "data" that their and products "enhance safety".

And one article and one Twitter thread caught my eye in scrutinizing these numbers.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2023/04/26/tesla-again-paints-a-very-misleading-story-with-their-crash-data/

https://twitter.com/NoahGoodall/status/1651323363099553793

While the analyses and arguments in this article and thread are not necessarily wrong, there are more fundamental issues here that need to be surfaced in my view... so let's take a look.

adamjcook,

is a divisive topic. Really divisive.

Two-sides constantly at war - generally over the stock price.

And it is also a topic that is surrounded by laypeople that are not competent in systems - so fundamental concepts are often immediately lost.

Totally expected.

Safety-critical systems are an oftentimes very niche and inherently complex topic.

For the pro-Tesla camp, "data", any data, is desperately sought to punch back against critics of Tesla's safety culture.

CrackedWindscreen,
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

@adamjcook They do. That's caused a huge ruckus over here. Cars are downgraded stars if they don't have the latest "safety systems" such as LKAS, AEB and more fitted. Cars that got 5 stars a few years ago look to be unsafe now as they get 1-3 stars when not fitted with all the tech (that doesn't work but that's by the by). However, structurally (which is all NCAP used to worry about) they are the same and just as strong and safe.

Here's something on what they look for. https://www.euroncap.com/en/vehicle-safety/the-ratings-explained/safety-assist/

adamjcook, to twitter

Interesting.

It appears that is now "locked down" such that one cannot even view Tweets or user accounts without logging in first.

Not sure if this is an intentional change on Twitter's part or if they just broke something.

CityHoosier,
@CityHoosier@mysportgallery.com avatar

@adamjcook That's one of the worst things about modern Twitter, isn't it? You never know if it's broke, or an intentional change. It's such an unstable platform now.

Stege,
@Stege@rollenspiel.social avatar

@adamjcook I assume that this is intentional. In recent months, access has become more and more restrictive anyway. Most recently, the search function or clicking on hashtags was made impossible for visitors without an account.
So this is just the next logical step, as I suspect that they want to force people with all their might to create an account.
Strongly suspect that the numbers are now collapsing and the advertisers urgently demand better account statistics.

adamjcook, to twitter

So, if it was not the case before, now that seems to be walled off for good...

How can the and, say, The White House (as a two random examples) continue to remain solely on social media platforms that are inaccessible to millions of unregistered users?

Those exclusively on the , an open platform, are being actively denied public services, official policy announcements and timely emergency alerts.

Wondering if there is a legal argument here.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/23779764/twitter-blocks-unregistered-users-account-tweets

adamjcook,

@bhawthorne I will just settle for US safety regulators rolling out of bed, for once, to challenge 's vast wrongdoings marginally.

Something. Anything.

This guy is out there... openly selling and running Beta software on public roads... and regulators could, so far, care less.

It is incredible.

Even with the shamefully low regulatory bar in the US.

EricCarroll,
@EricCarroll@cosocial.ca avatar

@adamjcook
caveat emptor is the peak of libertarian thinking & market management.
@bhawthorne

adamjcook, to random

At minimum, needs a train between the Detroit Metro Airport and Downtown.

Come on now.

This was last weekend.

Waited over 2 hours for a bus at the airport.

I am patient, but this should not happen.

Bus service cannot hope to (even remotely) satisfy a region the size of the Detroit Metro.

It simply cannot.

Not sure how many are coming in out-of-town for the this weekend, but the Draft next year is going to be a disaster from a transportation perspective.

csnetprogrammer,
@csnetprogrammer@awscommunity.social avatar

@adamjcook Can you deliver this same message to the Pittsburgh area please? Those of us living in the area are exhausted from being shouted down by those that go no where and want to live in the 19th century.

davehogg,

@adamjcook The Grand Prix isn't going to be a problem - it just doesn't draw that kind of massive out-of-town crowds - but the draft is going to be a mess in terms of transit and hotel space.

adamjcook, to random

Back in my hometown!

First time since 2018.

EricPaulDennis,

@adamjcook I have a friend who's flying to SF by taking the Amtrack to CHI in a couple weeks, and when I heard that I was like, uh oh.

whitemice,
@whitemice@mastodon.social avatar

@adamjcook @ablackcatstail What is Amtrak's "direction"? They appear hopelessly aimless to me.

adamjcook, to random

I have to say, it has really been a disappointing time under the Administration for - after having so much promise initially.

I do not know what the issues are here, but President Biden should ask Secretary for his resignation.

Sure, former Secretary Elaine Chao was ideologically worse than Buttigieg, but they are both virtually identical in ineffectiveness.

That is unacceptable.

Sad to say, but here we are.

adamjcook,

If I see Secretary do another interview where he pontificates with the press about the wisdom of 's product name... I might just lose it.

We are far beyond that now in outsized vehicle design dangers - and far beyond just Tesla's wrongdoings anymore (although Tesla's wrongdoings do remain somewhat unique and extreme).

Secretary Buttigieg is still putzing around on a field that is nearly a decade old at this point.

seachanger,

@adamjcook @AliceMarshall sadly this is what happens when you reward an entire federal dept to someone for backing out of a primary and endorsing you.

Buttigieg has never demonstrated the kind of insight or experience necessary to lead a sector like US Dept of Transportation in 2023

adamjcook, to TeslaMotors

This is a lie. is lying here.

At no time, are vehicles capable of โ€œdriving themselvesโ€ - only capable of the illusion that they are, which Musk exploits.

This is a common Musk Lie, made in the interest of selling Tesla vehicles and pricey add-ons.

People have died under this lie and will continue to do so, completely avoidably.

Letโ€™s explore the underlying foundations of this lie and why it is so dangerous.

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adamjcook,

Zero difference.

Only the illusion of a difference yielded by the presence of a poorly-understood (by the general public), opaque automated driving system.

, when paired with a human, is inherently dangerous.

Many believe that any kind of automation, sprinkled on top of a car, will automatically and definitely make the combined human-machine system โ€œsaferโ€.

Nothing can be further from the truth.

We can look to Autopilot in commercial aircraft as a contrasting example.

adamjcook,

Hey Secretary ,

If your investigators are still wondering, after years of twiddling their thumbs, why -active, vehicles keep slamming into the back of roadside emergency vehiclesโ€ฆ I just provided you with the answer.

Free of charge.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-autopilot-may-be-responsible-for-another-fatal-cr-1850204165

adamjcook, (edited ) to ai

I will say it again...

I do not recall an open letter with thousands of prominent signatories, a hastily-assembled White House Task Force and a big Senate hearing for automated driving systems.

You know... #SafetyCritical systems that are masquerading as #AI that have killed people and have the capacity to readily cause immediate injury and death.

We have an unregulated Wild West out there on that.

No, no.

Let's sound the alarm over a goddamned chatbot.

#ChatGPT #OpenAI #SenateAIHearing

adamjcook,

@Craktok The , the federal car safety regulator, actually has some pretty broad powers, in theory.

But decades of subservience to automakers have eroded their independence, competence and credibility.

The NHTSA has only had a whole 3 months with a permanent administrator during โ€™s term.

The White House could have made some powerful moves, without Congress, to significantly rein in this Wild Westโ€ฆ but they have not, across three different administrations now.

adamjcook,

@Craktok Even the , being today probably the most robust it has even been in recent memory, refuses to rein in clear-cut, deceptive advertising that allows consumers to dangerously think their automated vehicles are more capable than they are.

adamjcook, to random

Story time, from long ago.

This is a story about competitiveness in the US.

About the Manufacturing USA initiative.

About the MxD innovation center in (formerly known as DMDII).

And, about my frustrations that have festered for some time.

Out of respect for some of the people that I know personally that were employed there (who I will not name), this is a story that I had kept to myself for some time.

But now it is time to share, for a variety of reasons.

adamjcook,

Unsurprisingly, the GE Predix product never really went anywhere.

It never ascended anywhere close to the size or reach of Amazon Web Services.

And the GE Digital division was sold off a few years ago.

The MxD institute has since then buried these events.

But there they are.

adamjcook,

Anyways, a "Part 2" thread is coming up soon.

cc: @mimsical

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