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uhuru, to debian
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Any idea why greek accents aren't working in latest message editor?
As a workaround, using autocorrection after writing message.

Problem is thunderbird specific, every other app in system works as expected.

Fully upgraded sid version.
Also tried v125 from experimental, same issue.

@thunderbird

uhuru,
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@thunderbird so problem seems to happen in existing thunderbird profile..

no such issue with a new profile...
any hints how to fix existing profile?

btw, starting TB with --safe-mode doesn't help.

GrapheneOS, to random
@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social avatar

We'll be blacklisting mailbox.org and websites using it for email hosting for registration on discuss.grapheneos.org and as an alert email for attestation.app. They're blocking emails from our mail server for a convoluted, nonsensical reason and won't stop.

uhuru,
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@GrapheneOS if you're relaying all mail (even invitations) through mail.g.o why are they blocking it because of website ip? Makes no sense...(?) You'll probably figure it out, but rbls usually check relay address, not client.
(Otherwise every home email client would be blocked because of dynamic ips.. )

Smootasaurus, to mastodon
@Smootasaurus@mstdn.social avatar

Today's questions for

Email Clients?
I'm looking for Outlook/Gmail options for Win10/11. In the past I used thunderbird but I need calendar integration. What else is out there that's good for Exchange/O365

uhuru,
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@Smootasaurus does have calendar integration. (?)

and not using o365, but some older support i did moving people away, only outlook client worked there.
their crappy-proprietary service doesn't play well (/nice) with non M$ email clients.

uhuru, to random
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lately #thunderbird is freezing at start.. very slow response, almost unusable UI. takes a while to get to normal behavior, and sometimes freezes completely (=have to kill process).
using just 14 imap accounts (in 4 different servers) with a few dozen filters, and ~10 RSS feed subscriptions.
also connected to cardav/caldav with a single nextcloud instance.
could be network related, but have noticed same behavior both with slow/fast network connections.

@thunderbird
any ideas? tweaks perhaps?

uhuru,
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@thunderbird wow, long article, but yes, i'll try steps there first. thanks!

uhuru,
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step 1 :
latest version from distro (115.8.0)

step 2 (safe mode) :
still slow UI, somewhat improved response.. appearance: very ugly, and continues to be ugly after restarting in normal mode...

steps 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 don't apply. linux machine, no AV or FW running. no gmail account either.

uhuru,
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today was a first for oom-killer killing

pc was powered off for the last 3 days. so 3 days since last open and thunderbird can't handle either one of :

  1. hundreds of new emails?
  2. 1GB of global-messages sqlite?
  3. 20-30 simultaneous network connections?
  4. 50-60 filters on hundreds of new emails?
  5. syncing >1day old emails/caldav/carddav/rss ?
  6. other?

last time, thunderbird sqlite vacuum helped a bit. but maybe its time to actively seek/test alternatives...

uhuru,
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finally,
freezing was -probably- caused by several (~25) filters on a single account..
there were 3-4 obsolete filters and 1 filter was also conflicting with another. (been there for years - not updated since setup)

moved valid account filters server-side and disabled all from thunderbird, and now it behaves normally again.. no lag, freezes or oom-serial-killer...

btw, this account gets hundreds of messages each day.

@thunderbird

kikobar, to microsoft
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Any clue why reports score so bad as at my server?

All other big and small email providers score way better than this.

Does anyone have a similar issue?

Return-Path: <dmarcreport@microsoft.com>  
Delivered-To: ******************************  
Received: from ***********************  
 by ************** (Dovecot) with LMTP id ************************  
 for **********************; Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:09:03 +0800  
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])  
 by ***********************(Postfix) with ESMTP id *****************  
 for ******************; Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:09:03 +0800 (+08)  
Authentication-Results: **************************;  
 dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=notification.microsoft.com header.i=@notification.microsoft.com header.b=ahN2emes;  
 dkim-atps=neutral  
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ****************************  
X-Spam-Flag: YES  
X-Spam-Score: 2.321  
X-Spam-Level: **  
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.321 tagged_above=-9999 required=2  
 tests=[BASE64_LENGTH_78_79=0.1, BASE64_LENGTH_79_INF=1.502,  
 BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,  
 HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.741, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.1,  
 MPART_ALT_DIFF=0.79, NO_RECEIVED=-0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001,  
 SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SCC_IS_DMARC_REP=-0.01,  
 T_TVD_MIME_NO_HEADERS=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001]  
 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no  

uhuru,
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@kikobar imho, your spam score is very low (2). Debian default is 6.something iirc.
But when m$ is involved i'd trust antispam system anyway :)

cliffwade, (edited ) to fediverse
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Do you pay for an email server or do you use a free email service?

Please BOOST for maximum exposure to the

If you pay for an email service, please comment with which service you use.

uhuru,
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@cliffwade doing email hosting at work, so while paid service for most, its free for the workers to use as they like :)
trusting the sysadmins that manage personal info/data/communication, is a big plus ;-)

historyofpunkrock, to punk
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I'm starting

Dead Kennedys, heard and I had the music that accompanied me my whole life

#punk #punks #punkrock #deadkennedys #history #punkrockhistory

uhuru,
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@historyofpunkrock bad religion. a punk from school had travelled in the uk and she brought back a BR lp : "against the grain". first br music i heard. They marked me for ever since.
dont like "gray race" and later sound, but still , the first lp, and the next (suffer, no control, against the grain), have always been a reference.

were always another favorite... so did early blackflag, dk, circle jerks and angelic upstarts...

caiocgo, to debian
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  • uhuru,
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    @caiocgo is your system usrmerged? seems changed everything and didn't give a shit about systems that havent usrmerged already. (When usrmerge package isnt essential or even required by any other package.)
    Another wontfix (=f*ck users) success for some dds/user haters.

    peterkal, to random Greek
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  • uhuru,
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    @peterkal πως και ετσι;
    κολλημενοι σταλινες απ'οσο ξερω ειναι μονο οι ελλανιοι και οι τουρκοι κκ..
    τα υπολοιπα κκ στην ευρωπη τουλαχιστον εχουν(ειχαν;) μια στοιχειωδη λογικη...
    απορω... :o

    randahl, to random
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    When I grew up, bombing hospitals and killing children was wrong.

    It did not matter whose hospital or children it was.

    It was just wrong.

    uhuru,
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    @snack @randahl war? How can oppressed people living in worlds largest concentration camp be at war?

    This.is apartheid and the oprressed had enough of their chains. once again. How can they be at war with a nuclear power with a weapons budget of billions of $ ?

    And people like you support mass killings, sadist tortures, collective punishment, because?

    Btw, idf has been using human shields (children too), for decades. you probably never really question your sources.

    uhuru, to Palestine
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    📌Genoa Port, Italy

    Port workers and @usbsindacato block weapons transport

    Solidarity with
    Stop the crime in

    https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=WR4XfjtGdfA

    historyofpunkrock, to punk
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    All releases of the hardcore punk band Black Flag

    Due to the band's many line ups, very different works have been created in terms of style and tempo

    What is their masterpiece?

    uhuru,
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    @historyofpunkrock ffy + damaged.

    SwiftOnSecurity, to random
    uhuru, (edited )
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    @SwiftOnSecurity half the world would be marxists according to this old ad..

    thunderbird, to firefox
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    For those of us receiving email in multiple languages, it would be awesome to have Translate built in to Thunderbird. No sending your sensitive conversations to a corporate cloud, just a lean translation service running locally.

    We've decided to make it a development priority for Q1 2024!

    You'll be able to track the progress via this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1823007

    But as always, we'll also keep you posted right here.

    uhuru,
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    @thunderbird are you sure ? Emails are not websites, they are usually private communication from known contacts (in a language they already know). Messages people receive in other languages are possibly/usually spam. Offering a translated spam message, could perhaps seem like ham for some people.
    Unless i'm missing something(?), that option should be opt-in only, not something enabled by default (like firefox did).

    2c.

    uhuru,
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    @thunderbird sure i get its useful for some people, but i still think people like yourself are "exceptions" ( in a nice way :) ).
    majority receives mostly spam in other languages..
    Dont know for sure, just read the bugreport, its all technical really and about implementing the feature, no feedback about possible usecases anywhere..

    BrodieOnLinux, to linux
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    Whenever I see comments like this about I always have to ask, who do you think would be developing this new protocol? Every single graphics developers agrees that Wayland is where we're going, the problem is nobody agrees on how it should look

    uhuru,
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    @kkarhan @BrodieOnLinux right, seems you just guess..
    another toxic comment calling some random different entity-others toxic. . and random foss software are bad.. based on what?
    whatever.

    there are people with devuan + wayland + pipewire, people with devuan in infrastucture. (btw, what do you consider critical?)
    not everyone is a hater if he/she doesn't like something. so, pls be nicer.

    2c.

    uhuru,
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    @kkarhan @BrodieOnLinux @bsi
    (don't know BSI)
    was debian used in critical infrastucture in its 5th-6th year (?) eg. can't recall any potato in space ... mostly small repair shops, isps, hobbyists, etc...

    and anyway, noone uses linux mint or manjaro or arch or fedora in critical infra either.. some are even using windoze servers for critical stufff. so, what's the point really?

    evan, to random
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    I am not open to your ahistorical take on Google Chat and XMPP.

    Google didn't do anything wrong by using an open standard.

    They didn't do anything wrong by building a good interface that people liked to use.

    And they didn't do anything wrong by disconnecting from the network when the spam and harassment outweighed the benefit to their users.

    We, the XMPP community, failed to capitalize on success by diversifying the network. It's our own fault not enough nodes were there.

    uhuru,
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    @evan
    "And they didn't do anything wrong by disconnecting from the network when the spam and harassment outweighed the benefit to their users."

    Thats what some instances are trying to prevent here. disconnect from a major spam, harassment & "you're the product", ad platform.
    harassment from meta "bots" to those who block threads, has started....
    ads too.

    so, maybe you're reading it all wrong...

    2c

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