without federation, you're right. although I think they will be less right-wing. basically old Twitter.
with full federation, they offer us a way to break lock-in and eventually get everyone distributed on smaller servers on the #SocialWeb without corporate overlords, their algorithms or ads.
This medium is about news, not your friends and family. The public square. Spreading the best info, ideas and art. Never as safe as a close knit community. It can't serve both functions, at least until we have a good version of groups here. #SocialWeb#AttentionDemocracy
What about an IIW session next week where we remind each other what we wanted the #socialweb to be ≈15 years ago before the big platforms took over and it all became non-viable since?
Which parts of the vision are again relevant and can we make them happen this time around now that we have a resurgence of the #fediverse?
What about an #IIW session next week where we remind each other what we wanted the #socialweb to be ≈15 years ago before the big platforms took over and it all became non-viable since?
Which parts of the vision are again relevant and can we make them happen this time around now that we have a resurgence of the #fediverse?
“The Kansas Reflector published an artical about Meta censoring environmental articles about climate change — deeming them ‘too controversial’.
Facebook then censored the article about Facebook censorship, and then after an independent site published a copy of the climate change article, Facebook censored it too.”
I doubted they would ever federate this far, but assuming they go all the way, won't their shitty policies lead people to move from there to here if the lock-in is gone? If none of fedi federated with them, wouldn't you expect them to retain their users and grow faster than the fedi does? I see a growing #threads as a way to kill #xitter, and federation eventually killing them. Threads talking about federation is good PR for us too. #SocialWeb
"We're not decentralizing for the sake of decentralization. We're decentralizing because it allows us to reach towards that terminal value of cognitive liberty." - @mmasnick
Thinking and talking about why the #SocialWeb matters is so needed. I love the earlier examples in the show and agree that no ads or owner run algos improves our CL, but by following others who follow and boost others etc, the freedom is very limited by their choices. I prefer #AttentionDemocracy.
whoa, hang on. I think this is the reason #threads isn't fully federating yet. because the algo limits visibility of threads posts to threads users but not us, the vast majority of #threads accounts would see a ton more interaction from other #SocialWeb accounts than from other #threads accounts. it would expose how much their algos serve #meta and their top users over the interests of most users. I wonder if they saw that in their early testing. #fediFTW
If/when #threads enables two way federation, we need the biggest accounts there to set up and move to their own #ActivityPub servers ASAP to lock #meta open. #SocialWeb
Can #podcasting be made to work with #ActivityPub as well as #RSS? Then podcatchers could work like a #Mastodon client, allowing us to interact directly via comments, favorites and spreading around the best episodes via boosts. #podcasts
update: it exists but no podcatcher fully supports it yet.
imo the magic here is that we can make everything natively able to go viral. there aren't separate episodes, articles and videos we link to from here, but the item itself is an #ActivityPub post. creators stay in control. that's our killer app and how we sell creators on the #SocialWeb.
I want to know how fedi sharing got turned on for the @potus#threads account. Basically, how is this outreach happening? In what circles are people being convinced that the decentralization of social media matters? Cause this is either a huge moment or more just nice/lucky. #SocialWeb
If you're on #threads, please ask people there to turn on federation. Tell them that there are tons of accounts on the #SocialWeb that would love to follow them. Especially news outlets and journalists.
And then we need a tag here to track accounts from there that we can now follow here. Maybe #FederatedThreads? Something better must already exist.
The biggest problem in a predominantly capitalist democracy is that money becomes power, so that as wealth concentrates, a few interests overwhelm those of the general public. Lessening the opportunities for money to decide what we pay attention to and how we understand the world via media ownership and advertising, would help a lot. That's why I prioritize both the decentralization of and direct and automatic funding for media. #SocialWeb#AttentionDemocracy#LiberalValues
Hey journos, we don't need you all here on the fedi today. But please just move from #xitter to #threads and enable sharing to the #socialweb. Thanks. #journalism
Great interview with Jay Graber (CEO, #Bluesky) on Decoder with Nilay Patel (@reckless1280), where they dig into some of the major difference between Bluesky (#ATProtocol) and #Mastodon (#ActivityPub).
Big convo going down among people who prioritize a safer fedi. I don't agree but I'm glad people are talking about it. Sadly, choices will have to be made. I hope that a future larger conversation will be had that also includes people who prioritize other stuff. And if this can be done with decentralized social media, why not also have a separate safer web? Would the internet be what it is today if the kinda choices they want made today, were made back then? #fediverse#socialweb#fediblockmeta
I have so many follow relationships with so many talented people here!
It's so great to see all of you and your interesting projects and creations across such a variety of hobbies and professions.
It's only going to get better with Threads federation under way! Future of Fedi will sure be interesting and I'm glad to be a part of something that could fundamentally change the way "Internet" is done as a whole.
The future awaits. After years of gaining steam, Fedi has arrived.
Since they can only see our favorites over there on #threads, favorite lots of posts from threads here. If you want to encourage full #meta federation. #socialweb#fediverse
An important distinction is slowly being uncovered about the definition of the term "fediverse." Who is it that gets to decide what this place is? How are we being represented? These are not easy questions to answer and if we don't do a better job describing ourselves, then the job will get done for us by people who don't understand the underlying values we hold. #fediverse#meta#threads
@liaizon Personally, and the way the term was used, since it was first coined, was any software with #OStatus support (later #ActivityPub).
When there were discussions of having a new name, I ran suggestion threads and polls about it, and one suggestion/choice was mycelial, mycelium. I like it so I started using it myself.
For me, it's #AttentionDemocracy. Adding an attention layer to the open web, so that now we can not only post anything to the world, but it can earn eyeballs. That we all decide what info, ideas and art should go viral, not money. It's so huge and only possible here. I fear that the failure to see this potential, or the pursuit of other goals, will impede us from getting there.