ajsadauskas, (edited ) to tech
@ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

In an age of LLMs, is it time to reconsider human-edited web directories?

Back in the early-to-mid '90s, one of the main ways of finding anything on the web was to browse through a web directory.

These directories generally had a list of categories on their front page. News/Sport/Entertainment/Arts/Technology/Fashion/etc.

Each of those categories had subcategories, and sub-subcategories that you clicked through until you got to a list of websites. These lists were maintained by actual humans.

Typically, these directories also had a limited web search that would crawl through the pages of websites listed in the directory.

Lycos, Excite, and of course Yahoo all offered web directories of this sort.

(EDIT: I initially also mentioned AltaVista. It did offer a web directory by the late '90s, but this was something it tacked on much later.)

By the late '90s, the standard narrative goes, the web got too big to index websites manually.

Google promised the world its algorithms would weed out the spam automatically.

And for a time, it worked.

But then SEO and SEM became a multi-billion-dollar industry. The spambots proliferated. Google itself began promoting its own content and advertisers above search results.

And now with LLMs, the industrial-scale spamming of the web is likely to grow exponentially.

My question is, if a lot of the web is turning to crap, do we even want to search the entire web anymore?

Do we really want to search every single website on the web?

Or just those that aren't filled with LLM-generated SEO spam?

Or just those that don't feature 200 tracking scripts, and passive-aggressive privacy warnings, and paywalls, and popovers, and newsletters, and increasingly obnoxious banner ads, and dark patterns to prevent you cancelling your "free trial" subscription?

At some point, does it become more desirable to go back to search engines that only crawl pages on human-curated lists of trustworthy, quality websites?

And is it time to begin considering what a modern version of those early web directories might look like?

@degoogle

mariyadelano, to internet
@mariyadelano@hachyderm.io avatar

Friends who are older than me: do you have any good stories of encountering spam on the early internet? (PLEASE BOOST FOR REACH)

90s or pre-2005 please!

I might end up quoting your example in an article 😊

nixCraft, (edited ) to random
@nixCraft@mastodon.social avatar

Coming soon: YouTube cracking down all adblockers. Either allow Ads or Buy YouTube Premium. First, spotted here https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14kmd07/youtube_cracking_down_on_if_youre_not_paying_them/ What do you think?

stefan, (edited ) to fediverse
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

How many active accounts do you have/manage in the fediverse?

(Feel free to leave a comment with more details on which networks you're on, and how you use them.)

kobayashi90, to FreeSpeech

So they admitted that their Goal is not Free Speech at all, not gonna lie thats what this reply says in my Eyes. Sad to say that you lost my Trust.

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m0bi13, to web Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

Za The Register:

"Patrzcie, rozprawienie się z Big Tech działa. Brave, Firefox, Vivaldi zyskują na popularności na iOS

Dzięki Europie, która zmusiła Apple do zaoferowania ekranu wyboru przeglądarki."

[EN] -> https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/14/brave_mozilla_europe_ios/

#monopol #GAFAM #technologia #web #internet

kubikpixel, (edited ) to bluesky German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

»Was ist , und wie verwendet man es?«

Ich persönlich empfinde es als mysteriös, dass es bei Bluesky so lange dauert, bis es "fertig" ist. Für mich bleibt das offene Fediverse, das viel größer als nur Mastodon ist, die einzige öffentliche Kommunikation Lösung. Das erst bereit sein für angemeldete FrühuserInnen ist plumpes Marketing, da anscheinend nur Priviligierte Zugang erhalten.

🤔 https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000189452/blue-sky


#x

Rasta, to history
@Rasta@mstdn.ca avatar

Get The Internet !

Millions and Millions of Websites,
on one 3 1/2" disc

(looks like the save icon, eh?)
(Floppy drive sold separately)

mho, to internet German

Ist irgendwas im verhasster als ? Müssen ja was bringen, denkt man sich, sonst wären wir sie doch längst los. Denkste. lösen sie schneller und liegen öfter richtig:

Fast immer schneller, immer korrekter: Bots schlagen Menschen bei Captchas

Eigentlich wollte eine Forschungsgruppe ermitteln, wie lange Menschen für Captchas brauchen. Herausgekommen ist, dass Bots damit besser klarkommen.

https://www.heise.de/news/Fast-immer-schneller-immer-korrekter-Bots-schlagen-Menschen-bei-Captchas-9240739.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege

rolle, (edited ) to fediverse
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

"Mastodon 'may be just a passing fad as people give up on it'"

#Mastodon #Internet #SocialMedia

cliffwade, to 8bit
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

Internet has been out since about 12pm today.

Spectrum will be here at 10am Thursday(again) to possibly fix it.

AT&T will be here at 2pm Thursday to install our new 5Gb up/down Internet.

I've decided I'm leaving Spectrum after 18 months with them.

1Gb for $105.00 a month at Spectrum.

5Gb for $160.00 a month at AT&T.

Seems like an easy decision.

#Spectrum #ATT #Internet #BetterSpeeds #FasterInternet

ErikJonker, to geopolitics
@ErikJonker@mastodon.social avatar

Thinking in scenarios, what would europe / NATO do if Russia decided to damage /destroy most undersea cables which are essential for our internet and networking in Europe? They have the undersea capabilities, it would not trigger a nuclear war. What would/could we do in response ?
@geopolitics

danyork, to internet
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

Two more questions that I would love to hear perspectives about (either or both):

1- what do you see as the biggest ways the #Internet potentially contributes to #ClimateChange ?

2- what do you see as the ways the Internet can help address #climate issues or find solutions?

For me I think for 1 it’s the general need for electricity, and specifically power(and water)-hungry data centers. For 2 it’s remote working, and the sharing of ideas, research, sensors.

#ClimateCrisis #ClimateSolutions

CultureDesk, (edited ) to food
@CultureDesk@flipboard.social avatar

The internet has been fighting over what to call those tubes of clear plastic, filled with rainbow-colored ice in flavors that don't appear in nature (blue raspberry, anyone?). Here's a look at the online battle. What do you call them — and if your favorite name isn't on the list, comment and tell us where you're from!

https://www.scarymommy.com/lifestyle/freezies-otter-pops-ice-pops-name

LukaszHorodecki, to internet Polish
@LukaszHorodecki@pol.social avatar

I tak, kurwa, codziennie rano przez kilka godzin i powtórka z dławienia pod wieczór.

Zajebiście się żyje tu na wsi, z jednym tylko dostawcą internetu. Nie polecam.

Porównanie wyniku mojego łącza ze średnimi prędkościami: światłowód 243.3 Mb/s, domowy 130.6 Mb/s, mobilny 47.6 Mb/s, mój wynik 0.55 Mb/s

WhyNotZoidberg, to internet
@WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social avatar

Without looking up names on the 'net, how many old search engines do you remember using back in the day?

I start:
Alta Vista
Ask
Ask Jeeves
Searchbot
Yahoo Search

#Internet #Retrocomputing #Tech

liztai, to SEO
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

My thoughts about The Verge's article, The people who ruined the Internet and Danny Sullivan's response, and the conversation swirling around and the suckiness of the .

http://elizabethtai.com/2023/11/09/is-the-internet-really-broken/

Linux_Is_Best, to firefox
@Linux_Is_Best@mstdn.social avatar

Firefox is in trouble.

Ideally, I usually prefer to promote good news, as opposed to bad news, especially when I am passionate about a project or development. I am a firm believer in both herd mentality and self-fulfilling prophecies.

I want to make it clear, my primary web browser of choice is still Firefox and I still regularly contribute to Mozilla.

But as I said, and I hate to write this, Mozilla Firefox is in trouble.

1/

stefan, to internet
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

Do NOT, under any circumstances, link to any of the websites listed here!

"You may not provide a link to this website from any other website without first obtaining Associated’s prior written consent."

"You may only link to our Web site or mobile application with Our express written permission."

"Users may not link any other website to the Website without obtaining the prior written consent of Office of His Majesty’s Coroner for the City of Sunderland."

https://malcolmcoles.com/no-linking/

kubikpixel, to internet German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

Welcher Internet Browser ist "sicherer"?
Gute Frage und nicht simpel zu beantworten, doch nach meiner Auffassung ist es Firefox und weniger der sehr beliebte Chrome Browser.

So viel ich weiss, gibt es den Firefox länger und hat doch (knapp) weniger bekannte, so wie meistens behobene Schwachpunkte. Weshalb glauben so viele lehre Versprechungen von Konzerne?

🦊 Firefox
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=firefox
🌐 Chrome
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=chrome


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