The network effect for #ActivityPub is gaining some serious momentum right now. As more services adopt the protocol, more people, more communities and more content are added to the network making it increasingly more valuable for everyone. This will only accelerate in the coming months as Threads, Wordpress, Tumblr, Flipboard and others federate.
We're still in early innings but there's no way to put this genie back in the bottle. The open social Web / the #Fediverse is going to be huge.
This is excellent news Mike. Following your original announcement many months ago, I actually thought this was the case and created a clipboard about for myself, lolz.
It took a bit, but eventually I figured out that such integration would need to wait for a later day.
In a few weeks @w3c social web community group meeting may receive a proposal to explore chartering new social web working group that would only be open to people who work at W3C member companies. (The CG is open to all). Today there was an in person discussion at TPAC, the yearly W3C-wide f2f. It was a day-of addition to the agenda. Now is a good time to join the CG, subscribe to mailing list, and start participating in the discussions. https://www.w3.org/community/SocialCG/#vote#activitypub
I'm pretty sure that the #Fediverse is one of the first social networks I've been on that didn't ever ask me to betray any of the people in my address book.
@wagtail its a great idea as it would make potentially any django / wagtail installation a first class citizen of the fediverse, expanding functionality in various novel ways
There are already several django based activitypub servers (I am aware of #funkwhale, #takahẽ , #socialhome) and related #python projects (#bovine, #piefed) but it seems there is zero code re-use among them.
Extra-features (disabled by default) is somewhat confusing in #Fedilab.
This option allows to enable features that #Mastodon doesn't support (quotes, reactions, submit messages in a specific format, etc.)
But softwares like #Pleroma, #Akkoma, #GlitchSocial, #FireFish don't support (currently) same features.
We plan to use #NodeInfo to automatically enable features depending on the user's instance (ie: software).
Came across some #threadiverse compatibility issues in @toddsundsted's Ktistec project posted by @rahul (← this account is a #Ktistec instance) and it made me think: I would love to have a fediverse compatibility "issueathon" where we make a super list of everything that we expect to work across the fediverse and where all the issue are at.
@toddsundsted I think focusing an interoperate-a-thon on some of these smaller server projects like #Ktistec, #SNAC, #Bovine, #Kbin, #Takahe etc would be great. I wonder what the best format would be? Set aside a weekend sometime and set up a little global event for it maybe?
Kennt Ihr #Takahē? Habe das recht frische Fediverseserverprojekt eben zum ersten mal entdeckt, bin darüber gestolter, als ich mir das Profil von @kromonos ansah. Es ist wohl erst mal "nur" eine weitere Fedisoftware für kleiner/mittlere Servergrößen, die aber offenbar zumindest ein spezielle Besonderheit hat: Der Umgang mit Domains ist flexibel, ich hab das noch nicht ganz verstanden, aber es klingt vielversprechend.
I've already got enough going on, but I'm seriously tempted to spin up a new fedi instance (primarily for the #Bakersfield area) in order to play around with #Calckey.
There’s a new wild population of #takahe in NZ! With Ngāi Tahu and supported by Fulton Hogan we’ve released 18 takahē to the Greenstone Valley near Queenstown - a site where they haven’t lived for over a century. Here’s the last pair heading off to their new home. #conservation
We plan to increase the #takahe population in the Greenstone to about 40 individuals over the next year. We’ll still need more sites! Read more here: https://t.co/ZaWXjNoIoh#conservation 📸 Deidre Vercoe
I’ve been running my own Mastodon instance for over a year now and it’s been a fun hobby, but I think I’m going to migrate to another (larger) instance and bring mine down. It’s been fun though!
Though I have been thinking about setting up some other #ActivityPub server. Not sure what yet… #Takahe looks pretty cool and there’s this tiny project I found called #snac2 that looks really interesting. #Mastodon is just so massive and it requires resources I don’t feel like allocating anymore.
Would it make sense for Notesnook to be able to publish notes to ActivityPub? Is that a right use case for it or would it require hacks? What would be the best way to approach/implement this?
From a very quick research, it'd require a self hosted fediverse compatible server. Users would have to sign up or their accounts would need to be created there.
Thank you for putting out that query - short answer is...
Yes. You definitely have a use case here, but first, being just a little familiar with your product I'd like to welcome you to the #Fediverse even though your arrival coincided with the November Rain phenomenon that was much todo about nothing, and in the end, most Twitugees simply returned there after creating accounts here - I'm glad you stuck around! You're product is FOSS, and this is a #FOSS world here in the Fediverse, so it makes sense, this being your natural home and where people can expect to find you :)
Ever since I decided to ditch the proprietary Evernote, I've been using a #Vim Plugin that uploads my buffer to a Gist in an easy peasy way - it would be really kewl if I had a way to send (encrypted or unencrypted) notes to myself as a Fediverse DM, or share some of them with a select group of others in such a manner - Maybe (if it's textual in nature) actual clips I've saved. The graphics, well, if they are uploaded as a graphic that will work too, and they can even be sent to #Pixelfed accounts (if there is a graphics or movie file).
So, you're concerned about having to setup a centralized server or something that your userbase can be recognized on or something? Perhaps like a relay of sorts? I don't think that's the way to go actually. It sounds like a lot of heartache that might not even surivive beyond the intial proof of concept is rolled out - Spam being just one reason that makes the likelihood of failure a distinct possibility.
Here's what I think you can try doing, and it will alleviate any grandiose plans you may have been kicking around - Keep it in the client. A feature mechanism that either lets you clip and post it as an #ActivityPubNOTE to a user's actual instance (server) where they already have an account - You can collect the user's Fediverse account credentials and use that to post to their own existing account - no additional infrastructure is required on your part.
Those posts can be a single post to oneself (a private Fediverse DM to themselves) or it can include a list of recipients - just like any other post you can make.
This will also afford you the absolute maximum in #Spam_control too! You don't have to accept any registrations obo your Fediverse features - you're merely allowing people with existing Fediverse accounts to enter their credentials into your client and then your users make the decision as to whether they want to use your existing store or their Fediverse account to publish the clips to their stores there.
Since you've been around here for a while now, I'm sure you've realized how severely limited mastodon is when it comes to ways you can exploit the existing capabilities in the Fediverse - I've already mentioned Pixelfed, but there's a lot of other platforms that support HTTP signatures necessary for backfills and e2ee constructs; the support for BBCode and/or Markdown; post containing text with character counts greater than the paltry 500 characters that masto can muster, #LaTEX (actually, only Misskey and Firefish support that at this time AFAIK); local only posts (shared only with those who have accounts on the same instance), and a host of other unsupported features in masopub.
I appreciate that you made the effort to address this as an ActivityPub and Fediverse capability, and not simply, "yet another mastodon branded feature". Especially when mastodon won't be able to take advantage of many of the advanced features you already offer that other more capable Fediverse platforms can make use of :)
If you focus on adding support for people to enter their Fediverse account credentials, or multiple accounts like #Takahe and #Fedilab and #Misskey support, Then those are the servers you need right there! The spam problem remains as it is with the particular instances, since they control the new account registrations.
There's also the rapid adoption of #smolweb and single-user focused Fediverse platforms too, such as:
And of course, any platform, now matter how heavy or resource intensive can be deployed as a smolweb or single-user instance (even the klunky kludgey mastodon). And speaking of which, there are several popular forks that don't have these limitations that are very popular like #Hometown and #Glitch-soc, Etc.
There may even be some use cases for #Lemmy and #Kbin too, as link/discussion boards too - perhaps posting from a users vault/store to those platforms? There's a lot of different possibilities but ActivityPub can open up a huge market for you while at the same time Fediverse is exposed to large numbers of people who will discover that they too may have a good use case to adopt for themselves a Fediverse account :)
tl;dr: Basically, yes! there's a huge use case for your thoughts there - and if you're reading this on a Mitra, #Pleroma, Soapbox, #Akkoma, Firefish, Friendica, Hubzilla, or Misskey server, you'll see some very pretty formatting in Markdown - if you're reading this on a regular mastodon server (not one of the really good and popular forks), then... not so much - but at least mastodon does degrade Markdown and HTML somewhat gracefully :)
Well I hope that helps and do feel free to reach out to me via my contact methods listed in my profile or in the Fediverse-City Matrix room, and I'm sure that we can get a few of some of the more prominent Fediverse platform devs to round-table with you for some wire framing sessions.
I'm confident that you'll find a lot of support in your endeavor to achieve this initiative.
"That streak of colour was the #Takahē: a large, #FlightlessBird, that was believed for decades to be extinct. Eighteen of the birds were released in the #LakeWhakatipu Waimāori valley, an alpine area of #NewZealand’s South Island last week, on to slopes they had not been seen roaming for about 100 years."
@futzle Hello, thanks for your article about Takahē, would you say it's stable and complete enough for a daily use yet ?
The possibility to have hastag timelines is intresting, and just what I miss from other lightweight activitypub servers webui like rebased/pleroma.
I haven't found instances open to registration to give it a try ? https://www.icemoonprison.com/blog/?p=839 #takahe#fediverse
My #Fediverse viewer now supports any server type (as long as the server's APIs are correctly configured)!
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Andrew Godwin, Principal Engineer at Astronomer and Django core contributor, is giving the talk "Reconciling Everything" at PyCon US 2023 in Salt Lake City 🇺🇲🐍
Into NZ’s wildlife? Then you’ll love the incredible story of the #takahe in the new book by the great @AlisonBallance. Learn everything about Aotearoa’s unassuming avian superstar and the country’s longest-running conservation programme. https://www.pottonandburton.co.nz/product/takahe/ 📷 Potton & Burton
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