A lot of people have talked about the possibility of forking Mastodon to get the many improvements their communities need. Making such an effort successful is another discussion entirely.
@deadsuperhero There are several forks of Mastodon that have been around for years and work well (not only #Hometown) like #Ecko, #Glitchsoc, etc. for years.
They have many more functions such as editable character limit,
editable poll options, local posts, changeable favicon, markdown formatting - and if that's not enough, there is plenty of other software in the Fediverse for micro- and macroblogging
Hopping on a #bus to return to your #hometown during #festive#holidays may soon become a thing of the past if nothing is done to halt the declining number of bus drivers
With at least 5,000 #vacancies to fill, it has been suggested that the government offer free #training to those interested in becoming #busdrivers
The #shortage was expected to become more severe with each passing year
And another #Hometown release this morning. There's been another critical upstream security patch from Mastodon. So even if you updated 2 days ago (and thank you for doing it), you should update again:
I will note that I expect the Mastodon team to stop supporting security releases for v3 at some point, and I'm not going to be able to implement those myself, so basically once Mastodon stops maintaining v3 I'm going to have to stop as well. So I encourage admins to make a plan to update to v4.
Ich kann gut verstehen, dass Leute, die ihre politischen Tröts nicht hinter einer Inhaltswarnung verstecken wollen, von chaos.social wegziehen.
Warum viele zu 23.social ziehen, verstehe ich weniger. Ich habe das für euch getestet. Erst nach der Registrierung habe ich durch die Bestätigungsmail erfahren, dass diese Instanz von #mastoHost betrieben wird. Das ist eine 1-Mann-Firma <https://masto.host/privacy/>. Der Mailversand läuft über die US-Firma #Mailgun <https://masto.host/infrastructure/>.
@defcon42@caos Um das Zeichenlimit bei Mastodon zu ändern, sind Änderungen in 2 (früher 3) Quellcode-Dateien notwendig. Das weiß ich, weil ich diese Änderungen bei jeder neuen Mastodon-Version vornehme (wobei mir oft git die Arbeit abnimmt). Das würde ich nicht "konfigurierbar" nennen. Es gibt allerdings Mastodon-Forks wie #glitchsoc und #hometown, bei denen das konfigurierbar ist.
Has anyone implemented local trends on #mastodon? Is this a #hometown feature? I'd love to see local-only trends or at least some mechanism for positively weighting the contributions of local #AoIR users.
@thatgeoguy@joeyh this looks cool I will have to take a closer look. I wonder if there are any implications it you tried to put this on top of the #Hometown variant of Mastodon that I run on my server
If there are any folks out there who would like to merge #hometown with Mastodon 4.2.x, that would be really helpful to me. My recent attempts to do the merge have ended in inscrutable failure and I don't have a ton of extra time to work on this. (Specifically there will no longer be security patches for 4.0.x from the main project that I can merge as needed.)
@ajroach42 I suppose it would depend on what purpose it would serve.
For microblogging I would still go with #Hometown for being a mild Masto variant with a couple extra nice features and a maintainer who is more on my wavelength than Eugen. Apart from that maybe try #Akkoma for being a bit lighter but I am still wary if the dev community behind it... #Miskey and its derivatives are neat but seem to me to place more stress on the browser than any other front end (it makes my #pinephone run VERY hot lol)
#Peertube is still the go-to for video but IMO it does little on its own to "foster community" if that makes any sense...but you probably know what it takes to do that with #NETV
#Pixelfed looks compelling for picture/media sharing...might try that one out since it's #MadeInAlberta :blobcheeky:
Perhaps #WriteFreely for long form blogging but like Peertube it seems difficult to get traction for some reason.
Ultimately though given unlimited time I would probably make my own BBS/fourm style fedi app!
@ajroach42
I quite like the idea of #snac2, but would I use it for serious work? Not sure it's there yet. #Akkoma is a temptation for small instances, but I know the memory problems my last instance admin had with Pleroma (although Mastodon may have similar issues?). Probably #Hometown for a reasonable sized community though?
And now here's our #Hometown release for our Mastodon v4.0-compatible branch, which is the latest Hometown version. This is a security release, integrating upstream Mastodon changes as well as minor fixes from versions 4.0.7 to 4.0.9.
Since Mastodon will no longer be providing security releases for v4.0.x after 2023-10-31, my plan is to do a v4.2.x-compatible Hometown release before then.
Would it make sense for Notesnook to be able to publish notes to ActivityPub? Is that a right use case for it or would it require hacks? What would be the best way to approach/implement this?
From a very quick research, it'd require a self hosted fediverse compatible server. Users would have to sign up or their accounts would need to be created there.
Thank you for putting out that query - short answer is...
Yes. You definitely have a use case here, but first, being just a little familiar with your product I'd like to welcome you to the #Fediverse even though your arrival coincided with the November Rain phenomenon that was much todo about nothing, and in the end, most Twitugees simply returned there after creating accounts here - I'm glad you stuck around! You're product is FOSS, and this is a #FOSS world here in the Fediverse, so it makes sense, this being your natural home and where people can expect to find you :)
Ever since I decided to ditch the proprietary Evernote, I've been using a #Vim Plugin that uploads my buffer to a Gist in an easy peasy way - it would be really kewl if I had a way to send (encrypted or unencrypted) notes to myself as a Fediverse DM, or share some of them with a select group of others in such a manner - Maybe (if it's textual in nature) actual clips I've saved. The graphics, well, if they are uploaded as a graphic that will work too, and they can even be sent to #Pixelfed accounts (if there is a graphics or movie file).
So, you're concerned about having to setup a centralized server or something that your userbase can be recognized on or something? Perhaps like a relay of sorts? I don't think that's the way to go actually. It sounds like a lot of heartache that might not even surivive beyond the intial proof of concept is rolled out - Spam being just one reason that makes the likelihood of failure a distinct possibility.
Here's what I think you can try doing, and it will alleviate any grandiose plans you may have been kicking around - Keep it in the client. A feature mechanism that either lets you clip and post it as an #ActivityPubNOTE to a user's actual instance (server) where they already have an account - You can collect the user's Fediverse account credentials and use that to post to their own existing account - no additional infrastructure is required on your part.
Those posts can be a single post to oneself (a private Fediverse DM to themselves) or it can include a list of recipients - just like any other post you can make.
This will also afford you the absolute maximum in #Spam_control too! You don't have to accept any registrations obo your Fediverse features - you're merely allowing people with existing Fediverse accounts to enter their credentials into your client and then your users make the decision as to whether they want to use your existing store or their Fediverse account to publish the clips to their stores there.
Since you've been around here for a while now, I'm sure you've realized how severely limited mastodon is when it comes to ways you can exploit the existing capabilities in the Fediverse - I've already mentioned Pixelfed, but there's a lot of other platforms that support HTTP signatures necessary for backfills and e2ee constructs; the support for BBCode and/or Markdown; post containing text with character counts greater than the paltry 500 characters that masto can muster, #LaTEX (actually, only Misskey and Firefish support that at this time AFAIK); local only posts (shared only with those who have accounts on the same instance), and a host of other unsupported features in masopub.
I appreciate that you made the effort to address this as an ActivityPub and Fediverse capability, and not simply, "yet another mastodon branded feature". Especially when mastodon won't be able to take advantage of many of the advanced features you already offer that other more capable Fediverse platforms can make use of :)
If you focus on adding support for people to enter their Fediverse account credentials, or multiple accounts like #Takahe and #Fedilab and #Misskey support, Then those are the servers you need right there! The spam problem remains as it is with the particular instances, since they control the new account registrations.
There's also the rapid adoption of #smolweb and single-user focused Fediverse platforms too, such as:
And of course, any platform, now matter how heavy or resource intensive can be deployed as a smolweb or single-user instance (even the klunky kludgey mastodon). And speaking of which, there are several popular forks that don't have these limitations that are very popular like #Hometown and #Glitch-soc, Etc.
There may even be some use cases for #Lemmy and #Kbin too, as link/discussion boards too - perhaps posting from a users vault/store to those platforms? There's a lot of different possibilities but ActivityPub can open up a huge market for you while at the same time Fediverse is exposed to large numbers of people who will discover that they too may have a good use case to adopt for themselves a Fediverse account :)
tl;dr: Basically, yes! there's a huge use case for your thoughts there - and if you're reading this on a Mitra, #Pleroma, Soapbox, #Akkoma, Firefish, Friendica, Hubzilla, or Misskey server, you'll see some very pretty formatting in Markdown - if you're reading this on a regular mastodon server (not one of the really good and popular forks), then... not so much - but at least mastodon does degrade Markdown and HTML somewhat gracefully :)
Well I hope that helps and do feel free to reach out to me via my contact methods listed in my profile or in the Fediverse-City Matrix room, and I'm sure that we can get a few of some of the more prominent Fediverse platform devs to round-table with you for some wire framing sessions.
I'm confident that you'll find a lot of support in your endeavor to achieve this initiative.
I just attended a very inspiring #FnF23 session convened by @erikkemp on the topic of Fediverse governance. People from many countries, backgrounds and groups were present.
In my opinion, it's too early for creating governing bodies, and I'm not sure we will ever need them. What I find useful is covenants that instances can sign. E.g. digitalcourage.social signed the well-known Mastodon covenant <https://joinmastodon.org/covenant> as well as the #fedimins covenant <https://fedimins.net/en/covenant/> which is still a work in progress.
No, not really at all. sounds like you're looking for something like #Hometown or #Glitch-soc -masto forks.
#Mitra is a publishing platform, but it will perform equally well for just #shitposting too if that's all someone is interested in, although I think one would still be better served by masto for that kind of #meaningless_nonsense (it's purpose built for that).
Better still, Twitter!, ("X" now?) I just don't bother keeping up with those toys.
The Trouble with Forking Mastodon (wedistribute.org)
A lot of people have talked about the possibility of forking Mastodon to get the many improvements their communities need. Making such an effort successful is another discussion entirely.