leonieke, to mastodon
@leonieke@mstdn.fenslaw.nl avatar

For what seems like ages .... (about 6-8 weeks), I did not want to touch anything on my yunohost mastodon app, because the webinterface was broken, but the barebones settings were accessible. And I could still toot via my mobile app.

Finally, the interface is up and running again, but I fear a mastodon-move will be in the works, as I find the yunohost masto version very dodgy and not well maintained.

Any tips on how I can install my own server and keep all data of this version in the new one?

tetrislife,

@leonieke @meneer why not do a trial run of #Hubzilla or its successor #Streams ? Available in Yunohost, I believe. Nowhere as complicated to admin, and compatible with many protocols, not just ActivityPub.

Or #Epicyon, which is said to be even less complicated.

sass, to selfhosted
@sass@mastodon.social avatar

Is there a really solid tutorial on getting a Mastodon server up and running (on a VPS or self-hosted at home) that someone could recommend? Interested in running a single-user/small instance long-term.

tetrislife,

@sass my usual not-based-on-experience thought is (no database server to run).

sass, to mastodon
@sass@mastodon.social avatar

What's the easiest way to self-host a single-user Mastodon instance? (Also interested in other fediverse platforms that may be easier to host/manage). Thanks!!!

tetrislife,

@sass Epicyon is a Fediverse server with a static webpage interface, no database in the backend, and additional non-micro-blogging features.
https://epicyon.net

fediverso, to random Spanish
@fediverso@red.niboe.info avatar

:fedi_white: Estamos cambiando nuestra imagen de perfil a un logo alternativo del propuesto por @dsfgs

dsfgs,

Grazias for liking the design so much as to change your profile image, @fediverso!

One thing we plan to do in coming weeks, and we're announcing here, is . We're unsure how it will look exactly but think a little icon in a purple? circle in the bottom-right corner of the , or

So people can still celebrate individual server software.

@smallcircles

zucker, to random German
@zucker@chaos.social avatar

eine aktuell gehaltene liste, welche dienste es im fediverse inzwischen gibt, wo haben wir die denn?

[edit: eineinhalb jahre alt, aber zumindest ein anhaltspunkt:

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/das-fediverse-unendliche-weiten-als-schaubild-diagramm/]

caos,
@caos@metalhead.club avatar

@zucker ja, ist wohl sehr sparsam für Singleinstanzen. Da können vielleicht @teufel100 (der hatte den Artikel https://gnulinux.ch/fediverse-serie-gotosocial-ein-eigener-schneller-zugang-ins-fediverse geschrieben) und @sandfrog sagen, wie der aktuelle Stand ist.
Dann gibt es noch die ganzen Mastodon-Forks, von denen wohl , die meisten Funktionen hat: https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Ecko%3F/de

Und für gibt es ja laut FediverseParty auch noch einige weitere außer und : u.a. ...noch nie was davon gehört

mxv, to music
@mxv@social.tryptophonic.com avatar

One of the main benefits of a ecosystem would be that while I personally have no interest at all in an "all-in-one" bells & whistles music discovery / scrobbling / streaming / social extravaganza "Platform A" - I could still follow and interact from my minimalist zen low-overhead solar-powered self-hosted single-user instance of "Platform B". Exactly how say & happily interact. (Sung to the tune of "Ebony and Ivory").

smallcircles, to mastodon
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

There's a lot of focus on to migration, but the overall story is quite a bit bigger I think.

The offers huge opportunity for independent journalism in a world where so much of media are consolidated and in the hands of shady mogul billionaires. In other words Fediverse is both a threat to existing business models, as well as market opportunity.

Though I don't know if it applies, this toot was triggered by: https://dair-community.social/@ZekuZelalem/111207098660272388

dsfgs,

@smallcircles
To be fair, we get a sense that many instances are operated by those who are invested in highly questionable endeavours, which make them function similarly to a large corporation.

One of the goals of Fediverse proponents like us is to make setting up secure instances fairly easy, and not too burdensome. We think isn't able to provide such, but with and no javascript, maybe it can.

We wonder how and I2P-friendly (eg. ) might help.

boris_pohler, to mastodon German
@boris_pohler@bildung.social avatar

Warum ?

Ich beobachte aktuell eine große Wanderung von Twitter zu . Vor allem der aktive Kern der Twitterer zieht dahin um.

Mein Frage an Euch: Warum Mastodon und keine der anderen Alternativen?

[Bitte teilen]

PaulaToThePeople,
notesnook, to fediverse
@notesnook@fosstodon.org avatar

Asking all the and experts:

Would it make sense for Notesnook to be able to publish notes to ActivityPub? Is that a right use case for it or would it require hacks? What would be the best way to approach/implement this?

From a very quick research, it'd require a self hosted fediverse compatible server. Users would have to sign up or their accounts would need to be created there.

What then?

tallship,

@notesnook

Thank you for putting out that query - short answer is...

Yes. You definitely have a use case here, but first, being just a little familiar with your product I'd like to welcome you to the even though your arrival coincided with the November Rain phenomenon that was much todo about nothing, and in the end, most Twitugees simply returned there after creating accounts here - I'm glad you stuck around! You're product is FOSS, and this is a world here in the Fediverse, so it makes sense, this being your natural home and where people can expect to find you :)

Ever since I decided to ditch the proprietary Evernote, I've been using a Plugin that uploads my buffer to a Gist in an easy peasy way - it would be really kewl if I had a way to send (encrypted or unencrypted) notes to myself as a Fediverse DM, or share some of them with a select group of others in such a manner - Maybe (if it's textual in nature) actual clips I've saved. The graphics, well, if they are uploaded as a graphic that will work too, and they can even be sent to accounts (if there is a graphics or movie file).

So, you're concerned about having to setup a centralized server or something that your userbase can be recognized on or something? Perhaps like a relay of sorts? I don't think that's the way to go actually. It sounds like a lot of heartache that might not even surivive beyond the intial proof of concept is rolled out - Spam being just one reason that makes the likelihood of failure a distinct possibility.

Here's what I think you can try doing, and it will alleviate any grandiose plans you may have been kicking around - Keep it in the client. A feature mechanism that either lets you clip and post it as an NOTE to a user's actual instance (server) where they already have an account - You can collect the user's Fediverse account credentials and use that to post to their own existing account - no additional infrastructure is required on your part.

Those posts can be a single post to oneself (a private Fediverse DM to themselves) or it can include a list of recipients - just like any other post you can make.

This will also afford you the absolute maximum in too! You don't have to accept any registrations obo your Fediverse features - you're merely allowing people with existing Fediverse accounts to enter their credentials into your client and then your users make the decision as to whether they want to use your existing store or their Fediverse account to publish the clips to their stores there.

Since you've been around here for a while now, I'm sure you've realized how severely limited mastodon is when it comes to ways you can exploit the existing capabilities in the Fediverse - I've already mentioned Pixelfed, but there's a lot of other platforms that support HTTP signatures necessary for backfills and e2ee constructs; the support for BBCode and/or Markdown; post containing text with character counts greater than the paltry 500 characters that masto can muster, (actually, only Misskey and Firefish support that at this time AFAIK); local only posts (shared only with those who have accounts on the same instance), and a host of other unsupported features in masopub.

I appreciate that you made the effort to address this as an ActivityPub and Fediverse capability, and not simply, "yet another mastodon branded feature". Especially when mastodon won't be able to take advantage of many of the advanced features you already offer that other more capable Fediverse platforms can make use of :)

Platforms like , , , , , , , Pleroma, , , , , and even - those latter three have potentially, especially ambitious use cases with clips and notes being able to be actually published on platforms already built for long form or 'blobs' to be pushed to them. Hubzilla, , and Friendica have special features to accommodate your products notes too :)

If you focus on adding support for people to enter their Fediverse account credentials, or multiple accounts like and and support, Then those are the servers you need right there! The spam problem remains as it is with the particular instances, since they control the new account registrations.

There's also the rapid adoption of and single-user focused Fediverse platforms too, such as:

  • MicroBlogPub
  • Tapir
  • Bovine
  • And of course, any platform, now matter how heavy or resource intensive can be deployed as a smolweb or single-user instance (even the klunky kludgey mastodon). And speaking of which, there are several popular forks that don't have these limitations that are very popular like and -soc, Etc.

There may even be some use cases for and too, as link/discussion boards too - perhaps posting from a users vault/store to those platforms? There's a lot of different possibilities but ActivityPub can open up a huge market for you while at the same time Fediverse is exposed to large numbers of people who will discover that they too may have a good use case to adopt for themselves a Fediverse account :)

tl;dr: Basically, yes! there's a huge use case for your thoughts there - and if you're reading this on a Mitra, , Soapbox, , Firefish, Friendica, Hubzilla, or Misskey server, you'll see some very pretty formatting in Markdown - if you're reading this on a regular mastodon server (not one of the really good and popular forks), then... not so much - but at least mastodon does degrade Markdown and HTML somewhat gracefully :)

Well I hope that helps and do feel free to reach out to me via my contact methods listed in my profile or in the Fediverse-City Matrix room, and I'm sure that we can get a few of some of the more prominent Fediverse platform devs to round-table with you for some wire framing sessions.

I'm confident that you'll find a lot of support in your endeavor to achieve this initiative.

Well I hope that helps. Enjoy!

.

attached: Fediverse logo in gummy bear jelly colors

strypey, to random
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@admin I'm really keen to test out Takahē! Do you know of any other servers that currently have open sign-ups?

BTW I really appreciate the way the .social site displays most of its content with JavaScript turned off :)

tetrislife,

@strypey FWIW, works without JS too.

moof, to random
@moof@cupoftea.social avatar

@haliphax Fundamentally a different approach to coding, Takahē uses Django as a web framework, backed by a database. I haven't looked at its code, but Django apps are split into many smaller files due to the design of the framework. I might take a look at it next week.

That being said, appears to have more of a "Static Site Generator" philosophy, inasmuch as you can within a fedi server that requires an always-on inbox.

I'm spending some of my free time next week looking at personal fedi servers. I'm not sure what I want is out there yet, but it'll be interesting to see various approaches.

dsfgs, to fediverse

@sadiedoreen
Yes, we are happy to see a #fediverse instance embracing #I2P, its called #Epicyon and it doesn't require Javascript.

  • All we need are more people running servers! More information is available at libreserver.org

  • A mayor candidate in Adelaide ran last year and they use XMPP messaging over I2P!

  • Need to #torrent files, #useI2P

  • Need a #translation? Find one of I2P's translate sites.

I2P is #theInternet you dreamt of.

doctormo, to opensource

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  • kris,
    @kris@outmo.de avatar

    @doctormo https://epicyon.net/ has some features like that and also federates via

    chrisshaw, to fediverse

    I'm kinda thinking about webrings and whether they might have a role in a community of artists.

    They very much fell out of fashion after the rise of search engines, but it feels like an indieweb/fediverse kind of capability

    Does anyone have some examples of sites that do webrings well and/or any webring management software that could be used?

    tetrislife,

    @chrisshaw comes quite close, I suspect. https://epicyon.net

    narF, to fediverse
    @narF@mstdn.fr avatar

    I'm glad to see the different apps organizing together to build improvements.
    https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/README.md

    If we want the network of apps to grow, developers needs to talk together and find consensus. This initiative looks like it's moving in the right direction!

    I hope we'll see more participation from the smaller apps like and others!

    briankrebs, to random

    I'm pretty sure Mastodon is the first social network I've been on that didn't immediately ask me to betray all of the people in my address book.

    tallship,
    @tallship@social.sdf.org avatar

    @briankrebs

    I'm pretty sure that the is one of the first social networks I've been on that didn't ever ask me to betray any of the people in my address book.

    .

    permagriculture, to random
    masukomi, to random
    @masukomi@connectified.com avatar

    going through my todo list i have an item "check out epicion"

    I have now done so and have no clue wtf i was on about or if this is just a bad Siri transcription.

    It's either a pre-historic dog, or a plant and I don't know why i would care about either enough to have left a note to dig into them.

    I'm assuming it must have been a bad siri transcription and the true task is now lost to time.

    kas,

    @masukomi It's the server/client you are talking about, isn't it?

    :fediverse: https://epicyon.net/

    paul, to fediverse
    @paul@oldfriends.live avatar

    I wanted to test this thing out, so I installed on a 20-year old Dell running , that was ready for recycling, & was able to post, follow, interact with my account. Now it's connected to millions of people

    Epicyon's a fediverse server suitable for a small number of accounts on low power systems

    If interested, more about Epicyon and the projects below

    ( developer: @bob )

    🔗 https://epicyon.net/
    🔗 https://libreserver.org/

    loleg, to random
    @loleg@fosstodon.org avatar
    trwnh, to random
    @trwnh@mastodon.social avatar

    just took a look at epicyon and why is it written/packaged Like That

    trwnh,
    @trwnh@mastodon.social avatar

    what's interesting about is there seem to be default "cw lists", i'm not sure how they work but they include the following categories pre-packaged:

    • ableist.json: Ableism
    • ukrwthinktanks.json: UK RW Think Tanks
    • russianstate.json: Russian State Media
    • murdoch.json: Murdoch press
    • satire.json: Satire

    those are some... interesting... priorities...

    trwnh,
    @trwnh@mastodon.social avatar
    trwnh,
    @trwnh@mastodon.social avatar

    apparently serves a copy of the entire activitypub specification at /activitypub

    tk, to fediverse
    @tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com avatar

    Just learned of Epicyon. Interesting.

    nicksellen, to random

    I've been involved in starting a mastodon instance (actually, hometown) for my home town (city population around 100k).

    many challenges, but one is that it seems people expect/want something like facebook, not twitter.

    I think twitter is already something a bit weird. facebook is normal, with groups, events, etc...

    as far as I can see, there is no usable open source fediverse facebook replacement option.

    I don't know if this is a problem yet, as I can support people more to learn other ways.

    bhaugen,
    @bhaugen@social.coop avatar

    @nicksellen
    > evaluating a whole bunch of alternatives

    How many are there? - what else for a "localized" and specialized Fedi instance?

    Any other criteria to add?

    @datatitian @bob

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