Facinating to watch a potential #RedditMigration to the fediverse. The #Lemmy and #Kbin teams are dealing with all the same issues that Mastodon and other fedi microbloging sites did - but in even a faster timeframe as much of Reddit appears to be set to go dark on Monday. Questions of how to onboard, questions of centralized vs distributed onboarding, questions of how to explain servers and federation, and deep questions of how to scale if traffic is anyting like it could be Monday...
@tchambers In my case, cross-server subscriptions are the biggest pain point. I made an account at karab.in at first, hoping to be able to access content from lemmy and kbin.social as well. Technically the functionality is there, but it works really bad. I'll paste in the instance/magazine name and sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't. Mastodon manages to handle it better, but it's a different model. Why have a fediverse in the first place if every single instance seems to be trying to silo me into only browsing their own content rather than the whole fediverse?
I'd love to:
Be able to subscribe to any magazine from any instance, reliably
Be able to create multi-magazines to contain multiple magazines of the same topic as a single feed. I used to browse reddit by going to subreddits manually and checking what's new instead of using the front page.
Be able to search for any magazine on any instance from my instance. Search now only brings up local magazines.
I think that we need a global namespace for magazines. I don't know if that can even be implemented, and it would open up a can of worms, but it would be the best solution to duplication. I should just be able to go to something like rust@fediverse and see a global rust magazine, with posts/users/moderators from multiple instances. Otherwise, we'll just get a slurry of competing magazines on multiple instances, each too small to gain traction.
@tchambers From what I've seen on Lemmy, the Reddit migration is on a whole other level. Not really even comparable.
Not that there aren't some similarities... LOTS of posts talking shit about Reddit, just as Masto did/does about Twitter.
But, unlike Masto, there's really fairly impressive engagement. Conversations. Long threads with idiots arguing with assholes... the whole Reddit experience!
Honestly, I kinda get it... I was never a Twit. Never did "get" Twitter, at all. It's always seemed so performative, to me. A banal. And boring AF.
Reddit at least encourages conversations... even if they are between idiots and assholes most of the time
@tchambers Oh yeah, I'm part of that problem. But I'm experimenting (legitimately, participating in discussion) in following fora on both #kbin and #lemmy from my Mastodon server. It's working! It's amazing. xD
@tchambers - just deleted my whole reddit history and account. As someone mentioned before, it's just become a bit of cesspool with some good content. but most posts are for karma farming, with a race to provide the funniest one liner. Kbin seems more refreshing and more engaging. Hopefully it stays that way but the beauty is that you can spin up instances or find other communities if one becomes bogged down in nonsense
@tchambers Like Twitter, I'm not sure the people who show up here will stick- and many don't, and that's okay!- but what this does is it makes a lot of Reddit users, in effect, free agents. They may go here. They may go elsewhere. They may go multiple places at once. They may spin up their own new place. They may even decide to just replace Reddit with nothing.
For any that come here, first impressions will be everything. Mess up the first impression and they may not give a second.
Other than not really having an idea how the hell this all works, I'm happy for the push out of reddit and, maybe even kind of enjoying the challenge of learning a new platform. It's been a while, but a long time, that was half the fun of getting online: discovering all the new platforms and ways of interacting that were being created.
@bowreality You can. It's a bit like a "remote follow" on mastodon web ui. You copy the url, go the Lemmy's web interface and search for the Kbin magazine URL, and it should show up. Then click to follow. Or vote up or down.
@mastodonmigration@tchambers I feel like the community structure of both reddit/lemmy might actually work in lemmy's favor in a migration. With twitter -> mastodon, folks created mastodon accounts, but had to find individuals to follow (or wait for them to migrate). To contrast, a reddit user that likes /r/news can go to /c/news and instantly find something small, but similar.
@tchambers@jerry Your top post raises a concern that new users are quickly disillusioned if/when they try out a new platform and it has rough edges. This is what we experience in late-2022. Perhaps encouragement to create a #Lemmy and/or #Kbin account, but also hop on #Mastodon would be a good idea? Make the case that it is the #Fediverse that they are migrating to.
@ajsadauskas@rmdes@tchambers hey, does #kbin actually federate? I tried loading a post here to react to it but it's not working, neither in Mastodon nor Akkoma :mastodon_oops:
@badrihippo I tried yesterday. For some reason, when I copy/paste the handle of the kbin group, it doesn't find anything from my Mastodon interface. But when I add the handle in the URL of my mastodon instance, then it worked. Something like mastodon-instance.net/@tech
@rmdes actually the example I just used doesn't work (tech@kbin.social) even with the alternative I found. But it works for @ kbinMeta@kbin.social (which is on the same kbin instance)
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