This noob is testing the interconnectivity of the #Fediverse:
The word out there on the Fediverse make it seem as if all the different tools (Mastdn/P-tube/Lemmy/etc.) can interact with one another. But this is not the case, as some work both ways, whilst others only one way, or at all.
Hach ja, nun ist es hoch offiziell, dass Reddit nun deine Daten für OpenAI sammelt. Alternativen diesbezüglich im Fediverse hatte ich schon länger her vorgeschlagen, das ist @LemmyDev und/oder @kbin, die nicht an deine kostenlosen Daten verdienen (profitieren).
»OpenAI darf Reddit-Daten nutzen:
Die beiden Unternehmen wollen eng zusammenarbeiten – und voneinander profitieren.«
🧵 …weshalb und warum ich oben @LemmyWorld und @kbin hier im #Fediverse zum obigen Artikel vorschlug, ist kein neues Thema aber auf Deutsch so gut wie (fast) nie in der (Fach-) Presse angegangen. Wie auch andere Fediverse #Tool's sonst auch, die miteinander #kommunizieren.
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»Lemmy and Kbin: The Best Reddit Alternatives?
Love #Reddit but tired of what's happening to it? We check out #Lemmy and #Kbin, two open-source fediverse #alternative's that are growing fast.«
It had its high time approx. 90s to mid 00s. I very much enjoyed it.
It ticks all the boxes when it comes to #federation and freedom of interface: a number of web-based services, CLI tools like #slrn (mine), #Thunderbird and other GUI-tools.
@tuneintodetuned Y ya que estamos he seguido probando más peculiaridades de #Kbin y #Lemmy a raíz de esto. Gracias, @Badluck@Detuned que sin ti no lo habría comprobado antes!
One drawback of POSSE is that you’re bolstering the value of the silos. Instagram grows more powerful with your pictures on it and GitHub thrives on your repos.
Sandra, I'm really glad I had the opportunity to catch your review, or rather, observation of POSSE, especially the long term ramifications from the PoV of #DeSoc.
For quite some time now, I've been advocating for something that describes a not so dissimilar modus operandi for extricating subjugated chattel from that of the #Borg_Collective.
POSSE has merit, being a partial design for disrupting the deprecated monolithic silos, but IMO actually falls short by only seeking to coexist with it, instead of completely obviating them.
As a dedicated FOSS and Privacy Advocate, here's my take on how we can follow a best practices modus operandi, achieving what can eventually relegate today's monolithic silos into the marginalized zone, sending them into the abyss of downtrodden insignificance.
The model can work from any Fediverse platform, but platforms that support a rich feature set with longform authoring capabilities work best, having the greatest impact. For those stuck using masto for the time being, their impact will be less dramatic, but nonetheless still valid.
The model I've been advocating goes like this:
) Create original content on Fediverse enabled properties you own, or cite (link to) content NOT residing in the deprecated silo space (Twitter, Medium, TikTok, InstaSPAM, YouTube, Faceplant, Reddit, Linkedin, Etc.). You can do this from pretty much any Fediverse platform - even masto, with its paltry 500 character limit. A paragraph or so as a rule of thumb, just a teaser/headline to create interest for the reader to follow the link.
) Optional: For added impact and if you have any, from your traditional silo account(s), as well as from less capable clones like masto, offer up a teaser, perhaps a paragraph or so, with a link to the URL of this original content.
) If you're merely pointing to an article or resource created by someone else that exists independently, that's it. Well done! If you created your original content in long form on a more capable Fediverse platform than masto - there are many excellent Fediverse platforms for doing this. A few of those are:
) Endeavor to never publish any actual content (articles, news, photos, videos) on platforms in the deprecated monolithic silo space. Instead, it is preferable to publish your photos, videos on demand, and textual content on a Fediverse Platform well suited to this. i.e., PeerTube for VoDs, Pixelfed for images, and one or more of the platforms mentioned above for textual or multimedia based content such as news articles, HowTo's, tutorials, recipes, Etc.
) Occasionally, you may find it necessary to link to content in the deprecated silo space - a video on YouTube, for example. You may be able to clone videos (depending on licensing) to a PeerTube server, but if not, then make sure you sanitize those videos by using tools such as Invidious that shield the viewer from tracking and other privacy disrespecting constructs built into those silo systems.
The philosophy here is to ensure that anything posted into the deprecated monolithic silo space entreats the reader/viewer to leave that space in order to consume the content.
This practice insures that the consumer of that information does so in a protected, privacy respecting place, presumably built on FOSS, and in the Fediverse. It further serves to familiarize the consumer in an easy and unassuming way, with Fediverse platforms that do not track them or mine their privacy.
For the Fedizen however, it provides a one way transit - anyone seeing a teaser/headline/intro on say, Twitter or Faceplant, is immediately catapulted away from those denizens of commodification that packages and inventories the consumer as the product for sale, depriving those platforms of the necessary revenue that sustains them - death by atrophe. No blissful coexistence, every single post inside the deprecated monolithic silo space is in fact an egress point bringing the consumer into a free and privacy respecting environment.
Obviously, an article on the New York Times website isn't ideal, but it isn't strictly one of the monolithic silo systems listed above either. In this case specifically, it's a walled garden however, so you're directing the consumer to a place where they'll be privacy mined anyway, which offers three other possibilities:
You can, and should unless you feel you absolutely must, elect not to send someone to that resource
You can, under certain circumstances, copy that data verbatim elsewhere and provide a link to that place where you copied the data.
You can also probably check with the AP, since we're talking about a newspaper outlet, most of which actually pull their news from the Associated Press and other similar networks that provide free access, which you can link to instead.
There's simply no way to completely ensure being so mindful of your consumers without precluding yourself from linking to some forms of interesting content - but the point here is that almost without exception, you're not sending anyone into the deprecated monolithic silo space - you're sending them into the Fediverse, where they'll begin to become comfortable with, eventually creating their own accounts here.
I recently had some discussions with a few folks who completely turned their back on things like Twitter, which is good because it is one of those social networking systems that engages in tracking and privacy mining. Those individuals have made it easy for themselves by simply putting the existence of those privacy disrespecting resources completely outside the real of consideration - it's not like anyone is going to suffer because they didn't visit Faceplant. They may suffer a bit of withdrawals, but bear the following in mind:
There are liquor stores on virtually every corner in the real world. They sell booze at liquor stores. An alcoholic must come to terms with this and learn to live with this fact, making a conscious choice to buy, or not to buy booze in those stores, or even go outside where the temptation is even greater.
That's not the greatest metaphor I know, or maybe I just didn't deliver it well. Either way, I hope that in understanding this death by atrittion model, that people can make better informed decisions about privacy for themselves and others.
I'd love to hear your comments and thoughts on the matter, and any tools that help assist folks in addressing privacy concerns. Please feel free to share this by boosting to raise awareness within the Fediverse (and beyond) of all the excellent platforms available to everyone in the Fediverse. I realize I left out large sectors of the Fediverse that can be factored into this formula - the link aggregators and forums like #NodeBB, #Lemmy, #Kbin, #Mbin, #Discourse, and more. I didn't even directly address the purpose built single user instance platforms. Maybe we can give them some coverage in a later edition :)
#TheMetalDogArticleList #FarOutMagazine
The band Lemmy called AC/DC and Janis Joplin combined
A lot of the time, the tone of a band can stop them from writing about specific subjects, but this band combine two of the most contrasting artists out there.
Pruebo de nuevo a etiquetar a @detun3d y @detun3d por si hubiera cambiado algo.
No le prestéis mucha atención a esto a menos que queráis ver también qué interacciones federan y cuales no.
Y de paso, una imagen de un gatito.
@detun3d Tampoco podría decir que aventaje mucho tener listado en #Mastodon las publicaciones de los grupos de #Lemmy dado que lo que aparece no son hilos sino cualquiera de las respuestas que se dan a los mismos, quedando una lista de comentarios cortos que sin contexto no tienen ningún sentido y que son más difíciles de navegar que buscando publicaciones por etiquetas/hashtags.
Para rematar la faena, desde Kbin @detun3d (usuario) es indistinguble de !detun3d (grupo/comunidad/revista), algo que en Mastodon sólo existe como @detun3d y por tanto en #Kbin queda relegado al grupo/comunidad/revista de Random.
De todo el mareo con #Kbin y #Lemmy para grupos en #Mastodon puedo decir que aunque Kbin salga ganando no hay mucho visible desde Mastodon que justifique su uso para agrupar conversaciones de ciertos temas en lugar de usar hashtags.
Por ello activé en los grupos de Kbin que añadan las publicaciones que usen su respectivo hashtag como hilo de su sección de microblog.
Quien prefiera usar cuenta de Kbin en vez de Mastodon tiene cierta ventaja para comunicarse con el fediverso como si fuera #Reddit.
Siendo positivo y práctico sé que cualquiera puede seguir usando #Mastodon y entrar a #Kbin sin necesidad de crear una cuenta nueva, usar el buscador para navegar entre comunidades y en caso de encontrar cualquier hilo o comunidad con la que quiera interactuar, copiar su enlace, pegarlo en el buscador de su instancia de Mastodon y seguir desde ahí.
Ojalá fuera más cómodo, eso sí.
Pena que desde Mastodon los perfiles de los grupos de Kbin y #Lemmy se muestran vacíos aunque tengan publicaciones.
UI differences are a big factor in the success/failure of decentralised federation of diverse platforms and content
And this seems a good example: bridged #mastodon posts onto #BlueSky which has a lower character limit than Mastodon.
So, just like #lemmy posts on mastodon, you don't get the full content of the post (which ends with an abrupt ellipsis here) and have to take a link to the original platform.
However powerful the underlying protocols, this isn't far from screenshots.
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