underlap, to random
@underlap@fosstodon.org avatar

Currently getting my head round webfinger, webmention, indielogin, and the like: a mix of standards, experiments, and some decent results.

When does it make sense to use webfinger link relations vs link tags with rel(ationship) attributes in the <head> section of a web page? Are these equivalent features that just happen to have grown up in parallel or is there some rationale delineating the two?

Any clarifying articles greatly appreciated, as are boosts.

dusnm, to golang
@dusnm@fosstodon.org avatar

Writing a spec compliant implementation of a server that receives webmentions in .

Making sure I cover all edge cases is so time consuming...

nhoizey, to random French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

“Own Your Web – Issue 14: Webmentions” by @matthiasott

🔗 https://buttondown.email/ownyourweb/archive/issue-14/

> Wouldn’t it be amazing to be able to collect reactions from other personal websites or large platforms when we publish something on our own sites? And wouldn’t it be exciting if we could actually enable decentralized conversations across our websites, by letting our sites talk to each other?

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/05/01/own-your-web-issue-14-webmentions/

nhoizey, to Blog French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

Pfiouuu… mon billet précédent date du 3 juin 2022. Quand je vous disais que je ne serais peut-être pas très prolixe… 😁

Ce soir avait lieu la 42e édition du rassemblement Paris Carnet, plus de 20 ans après la première édition du 6 août 2003. Je ne vais pas paraphraser, l'histoire des débuts de Paris Carnet avait été bien résumée par Laurent Gloaguen pour la 50e édition.

Bref, peu importe le numéro, ce n'était que ma seconde…

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/billets/2024/04/29/

nhoizey,
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar
nhoizey,
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

@franckpaul au fait, la webmention du billet de ton site est aussi arrivée : https://nicolas-hoizey.com/billets/2024/04/29/#webmention-1821551

@sacripanne

Edent, to wordpress
@Edent@mastodon.social avatar

My blog imports replies from other social media sites and displays them as comments.
This sometimes leads to people replying on my site rather than to the original commenter.
So I've hacked my WordPress theme to say "Reply on example.com" to give people the choice to leave a public comment or a more private reply.

mima, to RSS

#RSS + #Webmention = poor man's #ActivityPub? ​:sagume_think:​

#IndieWeb

pfefferle, to wordpress
@pfefferle@mastodon.social avatar

what do you think about: set all linked mastodon (et al) posts as in-reply-to when federating a posts!?!

very similar to the old and not so old days?

ben, to Blog
@ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk avatar

New : Disabling backfeeds

Reading a post by @robb recently set me rethinking my use of and Webmentions.

In this post, I talk a little about why I've decided to turn off backfeeds and disable the display of webmentions on my site

https://www.bentasker.co.uk/posts/blog/privacy/disabling-webmention-backfeeds-on-www-bentasker-co-uk.html

steffoz, to SmallWeb
@steffoz@mastodon.social avatar

Integrating my website into the IndieWeb took longer than expected due to scattered resources and confusion. Should I do X or Y? Having too many options to choose from can lead to paralysis.

We don't want that, do we?

We want something simple, something that allows as many people as possible to get on board. An omakase 🍱.

Here's mine. You should start and finish everything within an hour at most!

https://squeaki.sh/p/the-dumb-guide-to-join-the-indieweb

henrikjernevad, to programming
@henrikjernevad@mastodon.social avatar

Since I've gotten exactly one webmention for my blog, I obviously had to put some work in to display this webmention on my blog. 😄 Had to do some reading to figure out how to make Hugo download external resources, but otherwise it was pretty smooth sailing. Much thanks to https://webmention.io/. Still not implemented sending webmentions yet though.

underlap,
@underlap@fosstodon.org avatar

@henrikjernevad Looks like I'd need to add IndieAuth support to my (WriteFreely) web site before I could use webmention.io. Probably not worth the effort.

steffoz, to webdev
@steffoz@mastodon.social avatar

It's official! I'm now a proud participant in the IndieWeb! :pensive_party_blob:

Microformats, webmentions, feed, automatic backfeed from Mastodon... the whole package!

I just wished for clearer documentation.. figuring out how to interconnect the various pieces was quite a nightmare, but very simple once understood.

https://squeaki.sh/p/being-part-of-the-indieweb

jgarber, to random
@jgarber@mastodon.cc avatar

Dipping my toe into The Discourse…

Nothing dictates that receiving a Webmention means you’re bound to display its source content on your website.

You could…

• forward the Webmention to your email,
• build a private notifications dashboard (with or without a moderation queue),
• add a link to the source page to your website without including its content,
• do something wild like set up an auto responder to the original author thanking them for the like/boost/reply,
• etc. etc. etc.

jgarber,
@jgarber@mastodon.cc avatar

A related and riff:

Add to your website and allow others to sign in. They’d be able to view a dashboard of the content they’d posted that made its way onto your website. Maybe add some lightweight self-service moderation controls?

nhoizey, to mastodon French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

🔗 “Moderate people, not code” by @snarfed.org@snarfed.org

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/01/22/moderate-people-not-code/

nhoizey, to mastodon French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

🔗 “Moderate people, not code” by @snarfed.org@snarfed.org

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/01/22/moderate-people-not-code/

nhoizey, to mastodon French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

🔗 “Moderate people, not code” by @snarfed.org@snarfed.org

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/01/22/moderate-people-not-code/

molly0xfff, to ghost
@molly0xfff@hachyderm.io avatar

pleased to see a few things in 's alpha features that i mentioned wanting during my migration!

molly0xfff,
@molly0xfff@hachyderm.io avatar

only just now noticed the item in there. that looks like some exciting news! i know uses webmentions for recommendations, but maybe they're expanding their support?

openstreetmap, to random
@openstreetmap@en.osm.town avatar

OpenStreetMap data is free, we only ask that you tell people about us in exchange¹.

Some site use OSM without attribution, and hotlink to OSMF tile servers. 😭 Our data is free, but our servers cost time & money. 🖥 It's now even easier for you to report naughty sites like that. 📝 They can (eventually) be blocked from freeloading. We hope this will increase visibility of OSM! 👍 🎉

Read more: https://github.com/openstreetmap/tile-attribution/blob/main/README.md

¹ to simplify the OSM licence req's.

codeinabox,

@openstreetmap I wonder if this is a good use case for 🤔 https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/

nogajun, to random Japanese
@nogajun@mastodon.social avatar

IndieWebの流れからWebmentionのこととか調べてる。Wikipedia日本語版にページがあるぐらいだから結構、前からあったのね
Webmention - Wikipedia: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmention

lordmatt, to UI
@lordmatt@mastodon.social avatar

and experts of Mastodon and beyond: I need your advice, please.

This is https://OpenMentions.com - a site I manage. The purpose is to be a hub for discussion and conversation via technologies like and

The more I look at the , the more I feel that it lacks. I can't say what that lack is.

Please offer me your opinions and insights on ways I might raise the bar on UI and clarity of purpose.

(Boosts for reach are most welcome).

bobiko, to random Polish
@bobiko@pol.social avatar

Udało się wdrożyć (dzięki @lubieniebieski a przede wszystkim @robb ).

Oraz kilka poprawek wizualnych.

https://bobiko.blog/2023/12/migracja-wordpress-astro/

mjgardner, to til
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

@Perl about @jmac's https://metacpan.org/pod/Web::Mention module for , a key standard and @w3c Recommendation that enables conversation across , , or anything that supports it.

More about here: https://webmention.net

schizanon, to random
@schizanon@mas.to avatar

work like this; you link to someone else's url, it sends a ping to that url's /webmention endpoint, then that site checks to make sure that your site has a link to it.

What stops you from removing said link after the verification has been approved by the mentioned site?

What if I write a blog post titled "This is the best blog on the Internet" and automatically every single site that accept webmentions, one at a time, replacing the mentioned url each time?

youronlyone, to bluesky
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

From what I was able to gather from https://snarfed.org/2023-10-06_bridgy-fed-status-update-7

  • through the will be enabled sometime in early 2024

  • The service is ready to handle bridge AT protocol and ActivityPub protocol posts and replies once federation is enabled in production (already working in sandbox test server).

The format will be:

  1. To follow a account from BlueSky / AT protocol: <username>.<server_domain>.ap.brid.gy

Example: @youronlyone.c.im.ap.brid.gy

  1. To follow a BlueSky / AT protocol user: <username>@atproto.brid.gy

Example: @atp.youronly.one@atproto.brid.gy

This allows users from each side to see new posts and to reply to these threads.

What is more interesting is that, if you have IndieWeb support on your website or blog, you will see comments from BlueSky / AT protocol appear as a comment, thanks to . It is already possible to do this with Fediverse / ActivityPub. ^_~

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