callionica, to random
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar

Why would a company give up selling to the EU when they could just take a sensible, conservative approach to complying with the law and avoid all possibility of a fine?

callionica, to random
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar

I’ve seen some complaints that the EU hasn’t given tech companies enough time to get compliant with the . It’s worth remembering that the DMA was passed in November of 2022 (and was working its way through the legislative process since 2020). If tech companies are only starting to find out in 2024, it’s because they’ve been fucking around since 2022.

cdf1982, to random
@cdf1982@iosdev.space avatar

If I were Apple I would be near the point where I’d scratch the CTF, open side loading to the point that alternative app stores aren’t even needed, preinstall all alternative browsers and pull Apple Music from the EU.

Then I’d raise iPhone prices 5% in the EU markets as a cost for software customizations for .

jon, to apple
@jon@vivaldi.net avatar

You have to wonder why Apple is so afraid of a full browser choice and allowing browser makers to run on their own codebase on iOS.

Could it be that they worry that other browsers might be better?

Some are comparing Safari to Internet Explorer and the comparison may be apt at this time.

If you have the time, read the text below and watch the videos. They tell a story.

https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/eu-opens-dma-investigations/

SomeGadgetGuy, to tech
@SomeGadgetGuy@techhub.social avatar

Give us a share and come join the chat! The podcast is LIVE! https://www.twitch.tv/somegadgetguy

We're simplifying this week's show. Apple is in regulator crosshairs, and a landmark case has been filed by the DOJ. Facebook and Google are facing scrutiny in the EU. Everyone on social media has suddenly become a legal scholar.

And I got to play with a new chip for laptops that might seriously disrupt how we use Windows.

#SGGQA 341: DOJ Sues Apple, EU Investigating Apple for DMA Non-Compliance, Qualcomm's X Elite Chip is a SCREAMER

#tech #technology #geek #podcast #livestream #bbtg #windows #microsoft #apple #google #business #news #technews #regulation #dma #doj #qualcomm #snapdragonxelite #windowsonarm

SomeGadgetGuy,
@SomeGadgetGuy@techhub.social avatar

#ReplayCrew! This week's show was a ROMP! https://somegadgetguy.com/b/426

Apple is in regulator crosshairs, and a landmark case has been filed by the DOJ. Facebook and Google are facing scrutiny in the EU. Everyone on social media has suddenly become a legal scholar!

And I got to play with a new chip for laptops that might seriously disrupt how we use Windows.

#SGGQA 341: DOJ Sues Apple, EU Investigating Apple for DMA Non-Compliance, Qualcomm's X Elite Chip is a SCREAMER

#tech #technology #geek #podcast #livestream #bbtg #windows #microsoft #apple #google #business #news #technews #regulation #dma #doj #qualcomm #snapdragonxelite #windowsonarm

fmarini, to apple
@fmarini@mastodon.social avatar

Without getting into the right or wrongs in the DMA and Apple/Google/Meta/etc’s implementations, there is one thing that strikes me as absolutely wrong on EU’s part.

Law gets discussed, written, and passed, with basically no interaction with the affected companies, and apparently no way for them to submit a compliance plan to be checked and approved/rejected. Co.s present their compliance once the law is in effect, and only after that EU launches an

1/n

mjgardner, (edited ) to apple
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

Anti-capitalists hurl the phrase “malicious compliance” at companies such as , , and regarding laws like the . The correct term is , directed at bodies like the ’s and .

ErikJonker, to Bulgaria
@ErikJonker@mastodon.social avatar

The gloves are off in Brussel.
Commission opens non-compliance investigations against Alphabet, Apple and Meta under the Digital Markets Act.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_1689

EU_Commission, to random
@EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu avatar

Today, we have opened five non-compliance investigations under the Digital Markets Act.

It concerns:
🔹Alphabet’s rules on steering in Google Play
🔹Alphabet’s self-preferencing in Google Search
🔹Apple’s rules on steering in the App Store
🔹Apple's choice screen for Safari
🔹Meta’s ‘pay or consent model’

More info: https://europa.eu/!4NF6bV

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

Having attended most of last week's #DMA compliance workshops in person, I was already convinced that the EU Commission would have no choice but to investigate if it doesn't want to lose all credibility for the #DigitalMarketsAct; the gatekeeper's circumvention attempts are just too blatant to ignore.

I wasn't sure they would act so swiftly though, so thank you @EU_Commission ! 👏

francal, to apple Italian

Considerevole aumento del numero di installazioni di su iOS a partire dal 6 marzo, ovvero da quando è stata costretta ad introdurre per l'Europa la schermata di scelta del per rispettare il Digital Markets Act
E se preferite il motore di ricerca https://searxng.devol.it/ più assicurata!😉

AlexandraB, to Bulgaria Dutch
rettichschnidi, to Bulgaria
@rettichschnidi@swiss.social avatar

«EU erzwingt Neuerungen»

«Windows-Update: Das sind die wichtigsten Änderungen»

Danke !

Ich fasse ja selten ein an. Aber sollte es dann doch mal wieder nötig sein, dann wird es mir dank der EU einiges weniger an die Nerven gehen.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/windows-11-update-das-sind-die-wichtigsten-aenderungen-839871018605

deflockcom, to apple
@deflockcom@mastodon.social avatar
callionica, to random
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar

When the Europeans say responses by big tech companies should be in the spirit as well as the letter of the law, they don’t mean they’re going to enforce things arbitrarily. They mean that if the letter of the law says “allow users to download apps directly from developer websites” and the response is “large companies who pay a fee to Apple can allow users to download apps directly after approval from Apple”, the EC will not accept that. Legalistic minimisations of the DMA won’t fly.

uniqx, to apple

Just in case you're wondering why & etc. are such jerks about implementing , here are some numbers:

m0bi13, to meta Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

📰 "We wtorek wiceprezes ds. cyfrowych i szefowa ds. konkurencji Margrethe Vestager podała w wątpliwość opłatę za prywatność Meta, mówiąc Reutersowi: "Myślę, że istnieje wiele różnych sposobów monetyzacji świadczonych usług. Jednym z nich są bardzo ukierunkowane reklamy, które opierają się na wykorzystywanych danych. Innym sposobem wyświetlania reklam jest uczynienie ich kontekstowymi. Myślę więc, że ważne jest, aby kontynuować rozmowę z Metą i ostatecznie ocenimy, jaki jest następny krok, aby byli zgodni z ustawą DMA [Digital Markets Act]".

Źródło [EN]:
https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/20/meta-privacy-fee-eu-assessment/

callionica, to random
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar

The European Commission’s VP, Margrethe Vestager, casts doubt on the legality of the CTF (Core Technology Fee) and cautions Apple against denigrating the security of AppStore alternatives as a way to deny consumers the benefits of the

https://www.reuters.com/technology/eus-vestager-warns-about-apple-meta-fees-disparaging-rival-products-2024-03-19/

X_net, to random Spanish

🌐 Varias plataformas de mensajería podrán interactuar con Whatsapp a través del protocolo de Signal.

Esto se debe a la implementación de , ley UE lograda por el esfuerzo de la sociedad civil organizada.

¡Luchar sirve!
https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/to-comply-with-dma-whatsapp-and-messenger-will-become-interoperable-via-signal/

Más info sobre 👇
https://mastodon.social/

ilumium, to meta
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

Today: workshop with lawyers at the @EU_Commission:

The mandates Meta to "enable end users to freely choose to opt-in to [combining or cross-using personal data] by offering a less personalised but equivalent alternative".

When I pointed out to Meta that by offering users to either to or pay € 275 per year for & isn't "equivalent alternative" they said, Meta has to do that because of 😤 Really??

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

Next on in 's compliance workshop:

🎉

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

Today: #DMA compliance workshop with #Alphabet / #Google :)

While Alphabet seems to be better in terms of the new #browser & #search choice screens, they have a strange view regarding their new obligation to allow un-installing pre-installed apps like #PlayStore or #Gmail:

Alphabet's lobbyists argue un-install and remove are two different things and as the #DigitalMarketsAct's Art 6(3) only mandates un-install but not removal, the current "deactivation" feature in Android would be enough. 🤔

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

OK I'm back after the lunch break, and the / compliance workshop is heating up nicely:

They're talking Google Shopping and and competitors are accusing Google openly to be like a "dictator" and "blatantly non-compliant" with the . 👊

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

Wow, #Google's engineering lead claims that they had 3,000 employees working for 2 years full-time to implement the #DMA's article 5(2) prohibition of cross-sharing or combining people's personal data across services without #consent.

#DigitalMarketsAct #Alphabet

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

tl;dr wrap-up from my 3rd day of compliance workshops with : while / seems to fare slightly better than in terms of compliance plans (from a digital rights perspective that is, I'm sure price comparison and hotel industries would disagree), there is still some way to go before the proposed changes can be called satisfactory. 🙊

And just to be clear: Google is still a terrible violator, the DMA will hardly change that.

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