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pfefferle

@pfefferle@mastodon.social

web worker, blogger, podcaster, #openweb advocate and citizen of the #indieweb and the #fediverse.

Open Web Wrangler @ #Automattic

I am currently working on the #ActivityPub plugin and several #IndieWeb (mainly #Webmentions) plugins for #WordPress! Besides of that, I maintain some other small Open Web plugins and try to help out on the #pluginkollektiv.

Follow my blog on the fediverse: "@pfefferle"

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davew, to random
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I'm tired of people using the term "podcast" when I can't find it at the place where I get my podcasts.

pfefferle,
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@davew I think it is not only the problem, to find the podcast on the main directories, but that a lot of podcast are published using services, so that it is sometimes not even possible to simply follow their local sites RSS feed :(

I am currently trying to make Podcasts also a first class citizen of the Fediverse but it is not as easy as I thought. It seems that quite some sites do not even use local podcasting plugins any more, looking at the number of downloads.

https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/pull/754

julian, to random
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There have been some scattered discussions I've seen over the past year that mention that @pfefferle's WordPress ActivityPub plugin federates their blog posts out as an as:Note, and that the only reason this is done is because Mastodon only treats as:Note (and as:Question) as a first-class object and relegates anything else to a fallback handler that takes a short snippet of the content, and shows a link back to the original source, thus losing any in-app benefits (boosts, replies, etc.)

Whether this is actually true or not, I do not know. So that's why I'd like to ask Mattias — or anybody else with some context — here.

For reference:

  • as:Article: Represents any kind of multi-paragraph written work.
  • as:Note: Represents a short written work typically less than a single paragraph in length.
  • as:Page: Represents a Web Page.

I have also noticed that Lemmy, perhaps out of principle, sends out an as:Page for new generated content, and only the replies federate out as as:Note. It has unfortunately led to some assertions that Lemmy's federation is "broken", even though it is arguably not the case.

@nutomic, care to weigh in?

I don't even blame Mattias for opting to send everything out as as:Note.

End of the day right now it doesn't matter how Mattias or Nutomic represent their higher-level collection of data, because Mastodon is the largest implementor and neither they — nor anyone else I know of, for that matter — treat anything that's not as:Note or as:Question specially.

But that ought to change. The question is how, but this WG is not at the point where we start throwing around decrees and making up standards.

What's important to me right now is what the landscape looks like right now, and why that is the case.

N.B. The discussion here will eventually make its way to online real-time discussion at one of the future WG meetings.

pfefferle,
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@simonwood @julian @nodebb as Simon said, this is a user choice! You can choose “Note” if you want to have the best compatibility or you can let the plugin choose what the best format is. And then we try to map the WordPress internal post formats to the ActivitySteams Object-Types. Standard Post == Article, Status & Aside == Note, Image == Note with priority on image attachments, Video == Note with priority on video attachments, …

darnell, to fediverse
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I am half way through watching the interview of @pfefferle by @deadsuperhero & it is really good!

📹 S1 Episode 8: WordPress-ActivityPub with Matthias Pfefferle https://spectra.video/w/nVQAzfWyC64DUfqGQcnCfp

I thought it was interesting that when @photomatt was focued on bringing to , Pfefferle advocated introducing to the en mass.

pfefferle,
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@shanesemler @darnell @deadsuperhero @photomatt @wedistributemedia @hello that’s totally fine! But not an argument against bringing WordPress to the fediverse ☺️

decentered, to fediverse
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A new episode of is out! We sat down with @pfefferle from Automattic on his effort to bring to the ecosystem!

https://wedistribute.org/podcast/wordpress-matthias-pfefferle/

pfefferle,
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@decentered oh god, that image 😂

liaizon, to article_interop
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Lets make articles interoperable!

@article_interop

pfefferle,
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@liaizon @article_interop oh nice! Count me in!

pfefferle, to wordpress
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Oh nice! Following a blog using is working like a charm!

Good job @julian

pfefferle,
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@julian The plugin federates posts and comments.

But for now, a WordPress User can only be followed, I have no idea how to implement the following part nicely (yet).

pfefferle,
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@julian btw. I would love to understand/support how NodeBB handles categories and groups!

pfefferle, to wordpress
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what do you think about: set all linked mastodon (et al) posts as in-reply-to when federating a posts!?!

very similar to the old and not so old days?

pfefferle,
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@mat @laurenshof so we really need an extensible link overlay to add more semantics to a link!

https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/11599

tim, to wordpress
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@pfefferle How are you feeling about what is happening with WordPress.com and the seeming frustration that is now directed towards as a whole and what it means for the plugin?

pfefferle,
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@tim I am still trying to figure out what’s „happening“ to be honest!

mitexleo, to wordpress

Comments from WordPress are not appearing on Mastodon. Is this a known issue ?

pfefferle,
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@weirdwriter @mitexleo @evan just released: https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/releases/tag/2.0.0

WordPress.com release is planned tomorrow.

pfefferle, to fediverse
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RE: ActivityPub Plugin for WordPress: let's assume I would work on a feature that would allow you to follow a complete blog, what would be the best identifier for that account? @feed@example.org? @blog@example.com?
What are your ideas?

https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/issues/1

pfefferle, to random
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how do you like it? better than https://pfefferle.dev/indie-wapuu/ ?

thanks @dennis

pfefferle, to random
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I'm so glad I never really had to use the car to get to my job.

pfefferle, to random
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@janboddez interested in a coop?

What do you think about: if someone uses the ActivityPub plugin to directly federate his posts, he could install your "Share on Mastodon" plugin, to not crosspost, but automatically boost the just federated post using a Mastodon Account?

pfefferle, to fediverse
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Is here someone that can help me with lemmy https://join-lemmy.org/

does lemmy has an allow-list, that blocks every server not on this list? or is it a problem with the WordPress plugin?

pfefferle, to random
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@LemmyDev what do I have to do, to make the ActivityPub plugin compatible with lemmy?

pfefferle, to random
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@J12t is the activitypub developer group still meeting?

pfefferle, to fediverse
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Good morning 👋

pfefferle, to fediverse
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the WordPress Plugin works also with 😍

https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/

pfefferle, to random
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"Carole Olinger und Lucas Radke über den CloudFest-Hackathon"

https://presswerk.net/pw053/

pfefferle, to random German
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Dies ist ein Test für @tim Alles liebe 👋

pfefferle, to random
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@tim works on my machine ;)

pfefferle, to php
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has someone already checked the plugin with ?

(sad, that I have to ask... after all ActivityPub should simply work 😌 )

pfefferle, to fediverse
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@javiercasares is talking about the , and

https://wpradio.es/podcast/280-wordpress-en-el-fediverso/

pfefferle, (edited ) to fediverse
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WordPress.org is counting 3.000 installations of the Plugin so far 🎉

https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/

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