The speed thing is interesting because for most of the time it's actually not unusable. It's a little delay here and there, but often fast or okay speed. it's only sometimes that it gets kinda unbearably slow. But IMO as long as it's up, I can deal with a slow speed here and there if it means I get to keep using kbin :). the dev/admin here is an absolute champ. kbin is awesome.
I prefer "sometimes it's laggy/slow" over reddit's "btw we're gonna just die for an hour. lol you broke reddit, here's a pic of a cat unplugging a computer".
This is because previously the upvote was boost, they were switched around to be similar to other fediverse systems.
Dev mentioned in another thread that the reputation system should be changed to have up/down count instead of boost/down. But they have a lot to do right now so it might not be the most pressing issue...
It's also the opinion of the devs. The fact that it's boosts and not upvotes is a bug, they'll get to fixing it, it's just not top priority right at the moment (since "reputation" doesn't actually do anything and is just a small number tucked away on your profile).
Not exactly - it's technically a "favorite" button. Since I learned exactly what you typed out, I've been using it as a way to save posts I want to read later. However it is correct that it does nothing for reputation.
That's just the current state of the software, not the intended state of the software. There's a bug right now, reputation's not supposed to be calculated that way. It'll get fixed, there's just rather a lot of higher-priority stuff in flight at the moment.
Boost should be removed entirely since it's nonsense to boost most things. E.g. even if I liked your comment here, why would I want to "retweet" that (and retweet into what even)? I just want to tell you that I liked it... with an upvote.
I think it's like for compatability with the microblogging side of the fediverse; so when someone on Mastodon follows you they can see what you've been "retweeting".
So, "boosting" a microblog/post (tweet) will "repost" it into your timeline (so your followers see it)? But what about for threads/comments? Is there any functionality at all for boosting it except to give the user reputation?
As @HidingCat said it's to increase compatibility with the other app. If I'm following your Kbin account from my Mastodon one, when you boost something I'll see it pop up on my feed. I'd be in favour of keeping it but changing the label to something like "boost to fediverse" or "share with followers", or even just "share".
Right but it's more than that too though - because if someone is following you on mastodon, and they boost your comment - that adds to your reputation. Which makes more sense than liking stuff increasing your reputation, because people on mastodon (or other platforms) will like stuff just to tell you they like it, but boosting means they think more people should see it - which is more equivalent to an upvote than a like is.
But they have a lot to do right now so it might not be the most pressing issue...
Actually I think this one is pretty high priority. People don't like seeing negative numbers next to their names. If there is ONE thing that can drive former redditors en masse off a platform, it is an impossibility to accrue karma because the system is (quite literally) broken (as in, it's incorrectly implemented).
There's one argument that we don't want anyone who could be driven away by such a thing as negative karma score, but....I disagree. More users & more content is a good thing. More serotonin for contributing more content is a good thing.
I'm playing with different fediverse at the moment as well as this one. That one doesn't do down votes. Didn't know it at the time when I signed up. The idea is appealing. The idea is that if you disagree with a comment, then you should interact and leave your own viewpoint. An anonymous, unthoughtful down vote does nothing that leads to a discussion. In reddit I'd see something down voted to oblivion because of a name brand mentioned but no discussion as to why people disagreed.
Thus far all of the fediverse has been positive comments 90% of the time.
That actually makes sense. Legit the reddit style voting system was often just mindless dopamine button pressing where just interacting in the group vote was enough to give you yours but not really encouraging anything beyond that. Iv been sitting here kinda missing it on squabble and now im more ok without.
I used to get so annoyed seeing mindless comments being endlessly reposted ('r/unexpectedoffice' was one that comes to mind, there are many more) and getting hundreds of upvotes. I'm hoping the system here discourages that sort of useless nonsense.
I hear what you're saying, but as a counterpoint: when I read something really fucking stupid (like someone just trolling and posting racial slurs) the appropriate response is actually to downvote & move on without engaging. Do not feed the trolls.
Without downvotes, you end up with Twitter-tier garbage discourse and arguments because there's no way for the community to vote to remove an idiot's platform, just clap-backs and ratios.
The up/downvote system is far from perfect, but I'd really rather not lose it as the fediverse draws more people in. I would much rather have my opinion hidden on occasion because I pissed off a wasp hive than have the content I consume be filled with toxic bait that can only be hidden if a moderator gets involved.
Yeah I annoyed some shitlibs defending lemmy.ml and I can’t even create an account or read most posts there. I basically said we Americans are as propagandized probably as much as Red-leaning countries’ citizens.
Ok, so in the next few days, I'll be testing some things. It might be a bit worse for a while, but it will definitely speed up the problem-solving process. I'll be grateful for any feedback. I'm unable to reproduce it in local/testing environments, so it might be an issue with the cluster.
Apparently, the error condition might NOT be dependent on idle time (a period of time without any interaction). — Evidence: Periodic clicks on a vote button, scripted at 45-second intervals, did not prevent the error's eventual occurrence.
This is anecdotal, but I don't experience these log outs on fedia (I have to relog like once every few days but that doesn't bother me, I assumed it was cookie expiry but maybe it has to do with server restarts or something). So I can understand if it happens more often to kbin social users it might be some other way it's set up like caching or something that others might not be running. Then again, without version info, it makes it a bit tough to debug so this might not be helpful, fedia could be running some random sha atm which might be the reason.
If I had to guess it’s probably the stickiness of the session (which user is assigned to which server on the cluster) that expires after a certain time which leads to needing a new login or in the case of the error page a CSRF token which isn’t valid on this server of the cluster.
I'm not sure if it helps, but I wonder if this is linked to the inactivity error.
Load up any kbin thread or main page, open a new browser tab in the foreground, me around in the non-kbin tab for 15-30 minutes, and return to the kbin tab. Now any clicks on 'actions' (voting, posting, basically sending info to the server) sends you to an error page. Whatever info you were sending doesn't register (vote count or highlight, posts don't show up, etc.
I didn't have any logout problems at all until maybe a week ago. Since then I've been logged out 5+ times.
Not a big problem for me, but I could see it annoying others.
Slightly annoyingly spending 10min drafting a comment seems to cause the same on occasion. (I guess there is no activity outside the edit box).
Fortunately if I get an error after posting, usually going back means the text is still there, then it's usually copy the text, click through to the profile of the person I was replying to and post the comment from that page. So far that almost always works.
Weirdly I don't seem to get logged out, just randomly directed to a error page when interacting (e.g. upvoting or trying to comment).
Edit: I don't think I can reliably recreate this issue...
I've developed a habit of copying everything I write before I hit send, because my comments tend to take a long time for me to write/format to my liking. Not because I keep losing it, but just in case.
Usually when it times out in the comments, I get brought to a page containing my lone comment box and a notification about "something-something, this page is federated, click here to return to the comments section."
So I wonder if it's really related in part to the page's continually updating federation making whatever you're trying to interact with obsolete. Though that doesn't make as much sense to me on our timelines as it does in a comment section :/
I've only had to dig around in someone else's profile twice, and that was because the notification's link to whatever reply you're trying to check doesn't seem to be mixing with numbered forum pages. By the time I check my replies, they're usually on a different page than I'm being linked to.
I don't think this has to do away with the numbering, it would just require a different method of linking (right?). But it IS one of the finer annoyances, and that I usually consent to scan/reread the entire thread looking for my avvie speaks to how stubborn I am.
I've had a similar experience. Only thing I can add is that more rarely even refreshing the page doesn't resolve running into an error page when voting on some comments. However, each time I was able to visit the user's profile and vote from there without issue.
Take time for yourself, I don't think anyone's going to blame you for that. And honestly, I don't have any issues with the current state of Kbin, there's a couple bugs here and there but it's entirely usable otherwise. Finally, I think giving yourself a deadline to resolve personal issues might be counterproductive and make you more stressed than you should be. It sounds like you're already taking steps to help spread the workload around, I would just keep spending a little bit of time helping out the team do some stuff you can't do until you're able to get a better work life balance or something.
I guess I'm trying to say, things are great to me and I imagine you're getting that unfortunate side effect of only having people who have something to complain about reach out whereas everyone who has everything going well isn't saying anything. So, in my opinion, you can stay to course (as long as it isn't killing you mentally) and I don't think the site is suffering any for it.
Honestly dude start a Patreon or something even if you only do it for temporary. I would chip in $5/month for a while to pay for server costs if it means getting a stable site and a viable alternative to Reddit.
It's also useful because it allows monthly flow, which is way more useful for planning than just a lump sum and ??? on what you'll get in a few months.
Also it helps to further gauge growth. New users is one thing, but new users actively donating for the betterment of the project is something entirely different. (Also first kbin.social comment, hope this place explodes in a good way!)
Agreed, brah. I just donated, and would gladly donate via recurring methods if implemented. Also, what Kaldo said earlier...don't develop this by yourself, you're gonna burn out faster than you think.
If I can't meet the deadline, I will step down from leading the project and transfer full rights over the repository and instance to the contributors.
I respect you entirely but this is a bit dramatic. Not all projects can be on time due to complications and no one is asking you to step down. Please just do what is necessary - you're doing fantastic!
Everybody says that, but that's not really practical. It would be much better to merge those features into the main project, than to fork it and get stuck maintaining a separate codebase in perpetuity.
Now I will say that if someone thinks they can do a better job, they should sign up for the project and commit their changes to the main project, so all ernest has to do is approve it, rather than write it himself.
oh, i totally agree with your points and i think most of us are already doing that... i was being borderline sarcastic. now, that said, i have no knowledge of what prompted this as a possible resolution by @ernest and it's none of my business, but i can take an educated guess at the calibre of individual(s) that prompted this as a solution. sometimes you have to be a hard-ass if you want to maintain quality and vision (cough mr torvalds) and @ernest has made it clear he's too nice. :-)
Yeah, there is no need for "final solution" style accountability here. This was a project that a single developer was working on when the stars just happened to align and drive a lot of attention to it at once. A commercially oriented website in the same situation would struggle to deal with it and be forced to take out loans in order to expand staffing and infrastructure capacity.
The phrasing of Ernest's initial post suggests that there is at least one exploitable vulnerability that spammers are taking advantage of and can't be openly discussed until the gates are closed. I understand the frustration and optics problem that comes with "easy and important fixes" sliding on the schedule (i.e. the topic of the other thread), but look at it this way:
Ernest is too slammed with work to be consciously creating more work for himself.
He needs the spam and bot problem to go away so ASAP so that it stops taking time away from him. This includes the missing moderation tools, spam/bot campaigns that are operating at a scale that those additional tools would have difficulty addressing regardless, and the issues he can't talk about yet that were hinted at above.
If he is waiting to push out a fix to problems that would greatly reduce his workload, there are very good reasons for it.
If he is not able to push out fixes that reduce his workload, it stands to reason that fixes unrelated to them are also sliding.
The Lemmy devs are actively asking for donations and every Lemmy instance - apollo.town and vlemmy.net included links to the join-lemmy.org landing page with donation links, so I'm a bit more wary of the whole construct. Perhaps the instance admins mean well - but at the end of the day, they and their instances are soliciting links that finance tankies. That's a no-go for me personally. But each to their own.
Some of the Kbin criticism in those posts is valid, though.
Kbin is not "production ready" software and it's missing a lot of Quality of Life features for instance admins.
It's hard to deploy, hard to to troubleshoot, operate and update. It's not packaged. We users are missing moderation and migration tools necessary to deal with the federated nature of the content (moving instances, content filtering etc)
But such is life on the bleeding edge.
I fully understand if fedi-admins don't want to spend all their free time fiddling with the instance. Many of them are volunteers. It's their choice and no one can fault them for installing Lemmy instead.
Ernest has stated multiple times the project is just a prototype and it very clearly is. People are working on it though. The tracker isn't exploding with issues anymore and Ernest seems to be back working on pull requests instead of battling with the server load, There's 53 of them currently - and they're from multiple contributors. It's going to take some time, but seems there's good work being done - by multiple devs.
Starting a software flamewar between Lemmy and Kbin seems incredibly silly and unproductive though, so I'll just say this - the fediverse puts lot of decision making power into the hands of users. There is choice. So use the stuff that works for you personally. No need to build walls, throw FUD or talk down the other software product or act as a knight in shining white armor for the one you happen to use and prefer.
There's space for everyone and there's space for multiple software projects and products. There's no division.
Your last line is what I am trying to establish here, however I have noticed hostility from Lemmy supporters. This is what I mean with ‘as kbin users we should prevent this’. Such bad faith posting should be deflated or best nipped in the bud.
The points regarding kbin’s present state I do understand, but in that case I think it’s a matter of managing expectations for new users.
One of the things that really seemed to spook new Mastodon users late last year was the fact that there were multiple microblogging platforms on the Fediverse. Telling someone who lamented the lack of quote-tweets, for instance, that Calckey and Misskey had quotes, and they could use those instead, brought people out of the woodwork to argue somewhat vigorously that people should kind of shut up about both the missing features and the alternative piecds of software.
They wanted Mastodon to win.
I partially wonder if it's the centralized, disconnected social web that's to blame. You can't read Facebook posts from Twitter, so the idea that there was no meaningful different to Mastodon users if people they followed used Calckey maybe just wasn't something they groked, and they saw the suggestion of options as a threat?
I'm really not sure, but that kind of behaviour went away with time.
My worry is that Lemmy does as Mastodon does, and doesn't display the instance type of other users. Most microblogs other than Mastodon show what kind of service a post came from. It keeps people aware of what the Fediverse really is - people using many different bits of kit to talk to each other. Meanwhile, on Mastodon it just looks like everyone is using Mastodon, and that the Fediverse is Mastodon, and discussion of anything else is an attack on the Fediverse.
I would like to see instance signifies on other users in kbin and in Lemmy, but if the Lemmy Devs are financially motivated to hide that they're usersaare interacting eith other services... Well, I don't like that.
QRD on Calckey and Misskey? I'm afraid I missed that whole conversation.
Tribalism is a big issue in the social media space, and I hoped the whole 'connected platforms' thing would kind of alleviate that. Still, everyone wants to be part of the 'winning' team, and folks are less likely to socially invest in a platform without good reason.
During the Twitter migration waves late last year, many new arrivals were rather disappointed, or even irritated, to find that search was hampered and that quote-posts didn't exist. I had many, often lengthy, discussions with such folks trying to inform them that literally everything they were asking for was already available, just... "Over there" * points off to the side *
These users didn't really get it, despite my best efforts. Obviously, my best explanations were not up to the job of helping these folks grok the situation, which is fine. Sometimes when things feel intuitive to you, you lose sight of the parts that really throw people off. I expected such communication blocks. What I didn't expect was people who were in no way associated with the discussion to start interjecting with rather strong words and feelings about, well, anything but Mastodon existing.
They behaved as if discussions of other Fedivese microblogs themselves were some sort of existential threat to the Fediverse. The people arriving were struggling to understand that they could use something other than Mastodon to interact with people and content on Mastodon, and these folks were popping up in their DMs to accuse people trying to show them other possibilities of, well, basically "stealing users" from Mastodon.
As if it were a competition.
It was very, very weird, and I strongly suspect that those users were also new and didn't understand the relationship between Mastodon, *key, and the Fediverse at large. And that this kind of boosterism led to a not insignificant number of users going back to Twitter because Mastodon just didn't work "how things are supposed to work".
Incidentally, where in kbin does it show what type of service other users are using? I'm not seeing anything like that in the UI. The best I've found is being able to see the user's full username@host name, which... Well, let's just say that if I spun up "kbin.fun" using lemmy, knowing that I was using kbin.fun would in no way inform you that it was actually a lemmy-based website.
They behaved as if discussions of other Fedivese microblogs themselves were some sort of existential threat to the Fediverse.
The web keeps evolving, and honestly in the end usability and accessibility will be key. We're waiting for a project that can lower the bar for the 'common' user who wants to click a button and yell into the void. Probably Meta's intended audience. I expect that this future project will in turn become more of a containment zone than an actual place for discussion, but hey at least the folks who want more than Twitter/Reddit 2.0 will have an entry point to the rest of the fediverse without having to deal with the semantics of it.
Incidentally, where in kbin does it show what type of service other users are using?
Ah, I meant the hostname, not the specific type/kind of instance. Still, to at least be able to differentiate on source rather than claiming everything as its own content, is something I do appreciate. It would either teach me to ignore or value certain contributions more or less, given their origins - i.e. an instance ran by propaganda machines or big business.
We're waiting for a project that can lower the bar for the 'common' user who wants to click a button and yell into the void. Probably Meta's intended audience. I expect that this future project will in turn become more of a containment zone
Yeah, I can honestly say that I'm not waiting for that lower bar, and I'll be happy if those folks stay with Twitter and Reddit until they finally go bankrupt.
Which'll be a while.
It would be nice if Meta's AP-supporting Twitter competitor didn't turn out to be profitable, too, but this isn't a Metaverse gimmick, it's right in Meta's wheelhouse, and is right there with their core business. I'm sure it'll capture a lot of people from Twitter too impatient to wait for BlueSky, and will make money.
At least I can blacklist it if it starts being a problem.
Give it time to settle down. Mastodon vs. Pleroma vs. Misskey, and recently Akkoma vs. Calckey, etc etc etc. all of this stuff isn't really new. Use this. No use that.
Just use what you like. I prefer /kbin. Likely will always. If someone judges me for using a software they don't, then I probably didn't want to talk to them anyway.
Also keep in mind that /kbin was in very, very slow development for a very long time before a lot of things all happened at once. Very much a passion project. Like this is someone building a shed in their garage for their garden except somehow now suddenly 50 thousand people are in your garden and they all want in.
Oh I mean like... I do see posts saying hey if you used X instead of Y you could do Z. And I have been seeing them ever since I joined years ago. That's just how these things go. Sorry, didn't mean to imply some kind of drama and then disappoint you like that.
I use that exact metaphor. I picture ernest hammering the final board for the days work. He hoists the hammer onto his shoulder, wipes his brow, and see a sea of people running at him from a block away. A bunch are carrying signs that say, "We can't wait to live in ernest's palace," while others say, "We're good with just a roof. No big hurry. We'll make it work."
But I get it, without an official API, it's a lot of work to get one going. I just refuse to use Lemmy, so I'm committed on getting a Kbin app ASAP. We're just about to have alpha.1 build ready and it's pretty darn usable.
EDIT: me not going w Lemmy was due to devs. I still think it’s a viable platform for the fediverse, especially with all the instances out there besides theirs (and being open source). Kbin being completely separated just felt like the right choice for me when picking between the two.
I've seen that "problem" a lot, but they give away the source code for free as proper communists should do, and then it's out of their hands. Just don't go to lemmygrad.ml.
I signed up for kbin because it was easier to understand. Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard. As for the developers supporting China… well, Lemmy is open source and the whole point is to make something where you don’t have to agree with the people running it.
Lemmy looked neat but figuring out which instance to join was hard
how about any lol, any major instance is ok
and yeah lemmy is open source, there's a lemmy instance for every point on the political spectrum, devs being commies makes no difference for the end result which is a very diverse (fe)diverse
There are alleged members of the communist party who are mods at lemmy.ml, or some kind of Chinese state apologists. Those who seek freedom of speech should be forewarned of this.
Gotta say, I'm really excited for the work you're doing on Artemis. Kbin's mobile site is really good especially considering how young it is, but I miss the smoothness of a real app. Thank you for jumping in on it so quickly and enthusiastically!!
Yeah, following along the active PR for the site’s API closely :)
Rn using homegrown one based on their DTOs. Using a scrapper. Just so we can run a small scale private beta. Has help us get a lot of the core functionality in place. Currently the app is looking pretty good.
While not mentioned in the list and no code was actually written towards Kbin yet, I do plan to support it and Mastodon if possible on Beyond when possible :)
I've already discussed some of the reasons on Matrix, but today, I'll try to briefly explain what's going on here. Due to the increasing popularity of kbin, infrastructure changes, the cost of maintaining instances, and development-related priorities, I wasn't able to deliver the milestones on time, which are crucial for project funding (even though I'm really close to achieving that). I wasn't prepared for this and didn't anticipate such a delay in terms of the savings I allocated for all of this. The servers are still being maintained with the donations that came through buymycoffe, but there are additional costs like living expenses and other obligations. So, I had to take up temporary work to ensure the continued development of the project.
This year has also brought many other unexpected personal problems, as I mentioned earlier. Now, another one has been added to that list – I had to end my marriage and a fifteen-year-long relationship. While it's not a sudden decision, it's never easy, but it has turned out to be more challenging than I anticipated. Not just for me, and this time, I want to dedicate as much time as necessary to conclude the matter properly. I had to learn how to do many things from scratch, set up a new work environment, establish daily routines, and more.
So, why all these deadlines and promises?
It was probably the only way for me to accomplish at least the absolute minimum. There's a lot of my own code waiting for review on my local branches, but it's genuinely hard for me to push myself to it for now. The infrastructure also requires fine-tuning, and Piotr is helping me with that. And the days are passing by very quickly.
However, I'm almost ready to continue on this journey, so you can expect that in the near future, there will be a banner with information and the update date of the instance and release. After that, we will work on avoiding such longer development downtimes in case of my absence.
Sounds like a lot of personal problems, wish you all the best with them!
Regarding the funding, do you think you can set up an alternative way of donating that accepts other payment options like PayPal? Personally I'm not using a credit card, which is the only payment option one can use on your buymeacoffee.
Oh, it seems to support PayPal only when the recipient uses PayPal as the payment processor. Is what the FAQ says. In which case PayPal is required, not just an option. TIL
So sometime in the future an upvote will be used to score the post and get it on the "frontpage", and a Boost is just like a save feature to save posts to my microblog?
i wouldnt call boost a save feature per say, but since we arent on mastodon it pretty much looks like one so i guess you can call it that lol. yes, eventually the reputation will be fixed and upvotes will affect it as it should, its just not a priority for now
As an added bonus, you can also use the https://kbin.social/d/[instance domain here] scheme to block entire domains, if you find that they include content you don't want to see in your feed.
Oh that's brilliant! Nothing against our German friends, but my All page gets full up with German language content and blocking feddit.de might be quite handy.
But if I do this, would it also block me from seeing feddit.de users' comments on other instances (which I wouldn't want to do)?
...and a kbin instance will run in docker (or on a raspberry Pi) with only 2gb of ram... I'm with you there is some crazy clever code propping this all up!
Effectively, we're seeing the output of software developers that aren't held back by corporate red tape, Agile development, focusing all resources on monetizing user data, and general office politic bullshit. Quite refreshing, seeing what we're capable of.
Are you suggesting I can block any media posted to kbin from those websites!? My god....I could block the porn gifs at the source. Ha ha! Get less fucked, timeline!
On the minus side, since instances only have to take on the data from whatever their users are specifically subbed to and they ignore everything else, I wonder if users subbing to multiple entire instances like that will drastically increase load in a way that would prove difficult for a young server?
I'm not a tech person at all, so I may have misunderstood, but isn't kbin's federation already backed up temporarily because of the wealth of combined activity?
There's a definition disconnect happening between Reddit refugees and more experienced Fediverse users. Identical terms seem to have different meanings here:
Reddit: Kbin/Fediverse
Post: Article or Thread
Top-level comment/thread: Post
Comment: Post
Microblog (No real Reddit equivalent, profile posts maybe)
Subreddit: Magazine
Upvote: Boost
Thus, making a new "post" is called creating a new "article", while making a top-level comment (starting a new "thread") or response to that article is making a "post". Any other comment is also called "posting".
It's confusing as heck, but it's natural that a different social media ecosystem would have different terminology.
You can write on your own user profile in reddit, I'd say is the equivalent to Microblog
Let's say you are /u/BaldProphet on Reddit
You go to your profile, click on "Write new post" and this post will not appear in any subreddit, but only in your own profile. It will appear on the feed on people following you and people who enter in your profile can read and reply those posts
This feature is mostly used in NSFW profiles (people self-promoting their onlyfans)
This is the answer I was looking for. So this is sort of how KBin deals with fediverse posts outside of groups - an automated "subscribe to tag" feature based on the magazines that you're subscribed to. Neat!
Thing is, if you go to your profile to post something, you don't see a big ass stream of Twitter posts there. Here, the Microblog tab is full of content from Mastodon, Misskey, and Pleroma users.
There probably isn't the time or will to do this, but it'd be fun if there was a "Reddit refugee" mode you could set in your profile that swapped all the words out to the more familiar ones. It'd only last until Reddit sent a cease-and-desist over trademark usage but that might still help a lot of people make the transition.
To make it feel extra-familiar for Reddit refugees, perhaps also cause people with that mode set to occasionally randomly double-post their comments, randomly show them a "You broke kbin!" screen, or maybe even simulate an abusive moderator randomly banning them from communities.
It's extra confusing since if I click on the plus in top right, I get all of these as options. Wouldn't that mean that all of these are just types of threads, as in article is a text post/thread, photo is an image thread, etc?
Basically, thread = submission in reddit terms?
And it's just a comment, it's never called a post in this context, at least based on the button that I'm about to click to send this? Top level comment doesn't start a thread, right now it says that the thread owner is "VerifiablyMrWonka" whos the author of the whole thread, not the commenter.
They are all threads other than "post" and "magazine." The form for each has a slightly different layout and fields. Maybe they should be consolidated.
I'm trying to understand this comment, but i can't get my head around it. Unfortunately I find the reddit vs fediverse table (is it that?) actually more a hindrance than help. It doesn't format, at least where I'm looking from (kbin.social on web) so I don't really understand what it's trying to communicate.
It would really help if you could describe what this hierarchy is. It doesn't even need to be compared to reddit - just a clear explanation. Or of course a link to something that describes it plainly to those who are new to it. Thank you!
Kinda ditto. I just created a magazine, went to create content and wasn't sure whether to add an article or a post—and whether it mattered. Somehow what I posted showed up as a microblog.
Yeah, you want an link/article/photo or video not a post. Posts are like Twitter/Mastodon posts and are actually viewable by people on Mastodon and other fediverse short form services.
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