We've been discussing these issues, amongst others lately in the Fediverse-City room on Matrix, what with the relative demise of Meetup.com following its acquisition by WeWork, and the rise of *events over at Faceplant further obviating them having much to do with a plethora of event management projects exploding onto the scene for the past couple of years.
It's been a while since I've visited #Faceplant, so long in fact, I only recently became aware a couple of years ago that they had a marketplace that has largely supplanted craigslist, and finding out just today that they in fact have some sort of events system - that speaks volumes, I think, toward my dedication to dogfooding my #FOSS and simply ignoring, for the most part, there are still some privacy disrespecting operators in the deprecated monolithic silo space of social networking.
#Mobilizon, #Hubzilla, #Rebased, and #Friendica have their own take on how these event management systems should #Federate through the rest of the #Fediverse, while others mentioned in the article below, including #WordPress try to fit into that niche in a cooperative, interoperable way... and it's paying off. Bigtime.
It's a good read, events are powerful for hobbyists, technologists, sports enthusiasts, and just about any kind of IRL or remote attendance awareness and organizing; so it only stands to reason that #DeSoc, and social networking in general include the capabilities to seamlessly propagate events as globally possible.
At the very least, events are heralded as one of the best ways to get free pizza 🍕 and beer 🍺 with others that have common interests. After a veritable shitload of funding from many sources, including NGI0 and even larger corporate sponsors, we're approaching a place where anyone with a Fediverse account, even on the smolweb or most obscure platforms like Threads, will be privy to things like announcements, RSVP, alerts, Etc., of upcoming events, regardless of whether your Fediverse platform of choice directly supports event management.
And it is perhaps a little ironic, that #Threads users themselves will likely have at their disposal, an event notification and management capability in direct conflict with the one that Meta wants them to use - I dunno how that's going to work out, but I think it's pretty kewl that nobody else does either at this time.
#tallship#Fediverse_City#NGI0 h/t to @silverpill for the heads up on the following article, he just always seems to know where that rabbit is hiding in the tophat and pulls it right out when it's most needed, lolz.
ALSO MASTO: You are free to make your own Masto instance & #federate w/ every #instance in existence incl. ones filled w/ hate speech that your current instance almost guaranteed already defederates from.
So, Threads is in the news. The BBC reports that Mark Zuckerberg promises "rolling out over the next few days" to release a functionally limited desktop version of the “flagging Threads app”. That'll do it. If you are breathlessly waiting for them to federate with Mastodon, seems like that is still scheduled for the second month of never ever.
@FinchHaven@hello_buckers Maybe you are thinking of all the hubbub about the AT <-> AP Skybridge that was going to connect both "distributed" networks, and usher in a new epoch of peace love and understanding.
@joe@pidgin just to be clear, xmpp is still here and widely used. While activitypub has a lot of similarity, it is more geared towards social media posts instead of messaging which xmpp does a very good job at. That's not to say that activitypub can do direct messaging and group chats, it's just not designed for that.
Basically I #federate with every server, but after reading that #threads will only federate with big instances and smaller ones has to apply for #federation I think the big instances like #mastodon .social and others should block federation till #META will federate with every instance. Otherwise Threads starts with #censorship which is unacceptable.
If @Gargron accepts federation with Meta, knowing the try to control Fediverse, I assume this is the beginning of the end.
@folkerschamel currently not. but, based on independent.ie, it looks like based on the GDPR decission EU data regulation Ireland has not given green light for Threads in Europe.
People who want to #federate with #Meta, I'm struggling with understanding why. Why is it so important to use your #Mastodon software to talk to them. Doesn't #Instagram and #Facebook have a by far superior native user experience? And it can be already used today.
If the goal is to connect all the surveillance-capitalism social networks with one protocol, isn't #bluesky a far superior alternative to do that?
@jeena I don’t think anyone has ever said it is "important" to federate with them. It’s about not jumping into conclusion and consider defederating without even knowing what exactly is gonna happen and how #Meta wants to implement #ActivityPub.
@hirad But it's like saying "Yes the priest molested those children in this community but let's not jump to conclusions with firing him from his new community 50km away before without even knowing how many children he will molest in this new community."
It's just too obvious that it's a bad idea and there are only cons and zero pros in doing so.
Which there’s not even any evidence right now that this is the plan.
Now you also see why it’s such a bad idea to concentrate a large number of users on one server.
Just think, for those of you so paranoid about Meta and #Facebook, what do you think they would do if instead several million users weren’t concentrated on 2 or 3 servers but were spread out over 10,000?
Stop telling people to sign up for accounts on large servers and start supporting the little ones.
That’s how you save the fediverse, and that’s how you make it more resilient to attacks. Whether those attacks are from Meta, #Google, or whatever bogeyman is next on your list.
People are in an uproar on #Bluesky as a nazi was causing disruption. People are calling for the bsky team to take a centralised action, some are saying to not even #federate which is the entire point. I’ve pointed out how #Mastodon has handled bad actors but clearly it’s not enough and all of the instances have failed