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omgubuntu, (edited ) to ubuntu
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What is the most recent app you've installed?

No cherry-picking your favourites here - honest answers only! 😉

Let me know below ⤵

omgubuntu,
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

Mine is 'Mission Center' - a GTK4/libadwaita system monitor.

MagicLike,
@MagicLike@mstdn.social avatar

@Jain @omgubuntu but it is more clearly laid out than the default Ubuntu one (at least for the PC activity) - AND includes an option to see the GPU activity! Nice thing, instantly installed :blobhappy:

smxi, to fedora
@smxi@fosstodon.org avatar

More / CPU issues, it looks like / have changed a default standard path in /sys for unknown reasons, thus breaking inxi cpu speed collection. This tripped need to do more refactors, this time to the fake cpu data debugger logic, it was not complete.

Also, a new codeberg issue pointed out that in many I can get basic RAM/RAM array data from udevadm, which appears to dump some dmi data into itself, available to user.

Still tracking down root causes.

smxi,
@smxi@fosstodon.org avatar

@adamw @mjgardner @Perl while I did not fully document my recent rh/fedora based distro vm tests, I know I had to install modules to get the debugger running, since as soon as I get the stuff running, I fire off a debugger dataset so I have it in storage for future reference.

To me when basic things like this are not understood, that's a huge red flag about something more fundamental in the model one is using to view the landscape.

The problems of for profit os vendors have zero value to me.

mjgardner,
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

@adamw Muting this thread and pulling https://chirp.social/@Perl out. @smxi, ping me if you need Perl help.

devrtz, to debian

Breaking the phone you plan to demo with is always fun.

Fixing it, even more so!
Just need a keyboard and run 1 command.

2 hours to go https://debconf23.debconf.org/talks/61-the-year-of-linux-on-desktopwmobile/

I'm a bit concerned about the frequent power losses at the hotel though :D

I'll add image descriptions later, need to work on my slides :P
and need to go for a swim!

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jlcrawf,

@agx @deedend @devrtz @purism
I have been daily driving mine since February of this year. Before that, I daily drove the PPP for a year and before that I daily drove the PP for a year.
The was a major step up in quality and usability from day one. I loved my pinephones, but I don't think that I could go back to them.

purism,

@julianfairfax @devrtz @agx @deedend

PSA:
Flare is a third party client designed to run on

If you want to use on , are passionate about and know :

@schmiddionmobile would surely appreciate code contributions to fix some of the issues mentioned https://fosstodon.org/@julianfairfax/111113443939828891

Have a look at
https://gitlab.com/schmiddi-on-mobile/flare

Thanks to everyone working on the ecosystem (and by extension: a better world 🌈 )

Linux_Is_Best, (edited ) to openSUSE
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openSUSE needs to get their act together

Since 2022 it has been implied multiple times by the openSUSE Development, that openSUSE Leap was being discontinued. Then they said it wasn't being discontinued, but replaced. Once more, they said it wasn't being replaced, simply changed. Now lastly, they're saying it may remain, but either in 1 of 3 forms

Ever watch a TV network kill off a good TV show, because the new executive does not like it, but the fans keep hanging on?

#openSUSE #SUSE

sysrich,

@Linux_Is_Best there’s a few flaws in your metaphor

Leap did not have sufficient contributions to be sustainable. Fans, sure, but fans don’t make distros, contributors do

I worked hard to find a sustainable replacement. I failed, so walked away.

If the community is as great as you advocate, it will sort itself out. The door is always open.

Linux_Is_Best,
@Linux_Is_Best@mastodon.social avatar

@sysrich

openSUSE has plenty of contributors, both from the community and from SUSE.

18 years, since October 2005, openSUSE has been going strong. The divided between Tumbleweed and Leap has continued for 8 of those years (since 2015).

Then you come along and claim the sky is falling (metaphorically speaking), by adding so much uncertainty and doubt, without actually doing anything for nearly 2 years.

No, I think I know your game pretty well.

#openSUSE #SUSE

Psyann, to linuxmint French

Petite bouteille à la mer, j'essaie d'installer sur un petit PC portable ASUS avec un SDD interne de 32Go, le problème c'est que je n'arrive pas à booter sur la clé USB. Pour accéder ua BIOS je dois redémarrer le PC via windows et lorsque je configure le BIOS je demande en 1 de booter sur la clé et en 2 de booter sur windows, le pb c'est qu'il me lance systématiquement windows. J'ai essayé de retélécharger mon iso mais le résultat est identique. Je commence à me décourager.

Psyann,

@MarSolRivas
Bon, hier soir j'ai installé Firefox, Libre Office, les codecs, l'installateur de paquets. J'ai 5Go utilisés et 21Go disponibles sur le SSD.
Tout fonctionne bien, je n'ai plus qu'à montrer les bases au fiston et c'est parti pour la seconde vie de cet ordi.
À nouveau un grand merci pour ton aide précieuse. ☺️

MarSolRivas,
@MarSolRivas@mastodon.online avatar

@Psyann Impec ! 😊💻

GTK, to GNOME
@GTK@floss.social avatar

What GTK app are you working on?

semiprime,
@semiprime@mastodon.online avatar

@GTK "Pygenda" - a GTK agenda app for handheld computers (inspired by Psion agendas, for anyone who remembers them).
https://youtu.be/uvQqFmlZ6nM

vixalientoots,
@vixalientoots@mas.to avatar

@GTK Currently working on Decibels, an audio player.

https://flathub.org/apps/com.vixalien.decibels

thelinuxEXP, to fedora
@thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social avatar

After 2 years using the same desktop for editing, running and , I made a big switch:

  • first, I replaced both my desktop and my laptop with one single laptop for both use cases
  • I moved to plasma
  • I switched distros!

Here is the whole new setup, how I configured KDE, and how everything works!

https://youtu.be/No_A22Mdxb0

Mel_Jack,

@thelinuxEXP @denzilferreira Your thoughts on Fedora’s other Desktop’s? Do all the normal stuff, media & such, data is all On a MacBook Pro, looking to do, security spin, yet with base workstation.. 32gb ram I-7 tb SSD, know of a way to switch DT’s on the fly,? Putting Elementary on an Asus, thanks 😊

phpuech,

@thelinuxEXP is it still fedora ?

vwbusguy, to openSUSE
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

Some Leap impressions:

  • Nice to not have an "Install EPEL" first step!
  • Getting up and running with container tools (podman, etc.) was nice and quick (no need for adjusting systemd linger for non-root)
  • Interesing that the cloud image doesn't ship with by default
  • No SELinux by default and a little bit of effort to piece it all back together - no default policy even
  • zypper is... OK. dnf's search is definitely more comprehensive.
SFaulken,
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@vwbusguy

@fedops

Yep, back when dinosaurs roamed the planet, it was Slackware based. The Switch to using RPM was begun in SuSE Linux 5.0, in 1997

sfalken,
@sfalken@mastodon.naturalorder.me avatar

@Conan_Kudo @sysrich @vwbusguy Well, I'm not sure which docs you found, but most of our docs are on a wiki, so you can edit them, and save the next guy the headache, if you wish =]

JulianOliver, to debian
@JulianOliver@mastodon.social avatar

Finally putting my x230 to rest, the last sudo poweroff. Hardware is failing beyond the point that makes continuing to repair it worthwhile.

On this laptop I deployed nearly 60 servers (most for at risk groups), 12 tech art projects (solo & collab, some toured worldwide), & gave many lectures & workshops.

If there was ever a loyal and electric steed, it was this x230. It ran & was good.

I bought it in 2015, for EUR145 on the German eBay, 2nd hand.

Photo of my x230 Thinkpad, sitting on a wooden decking. Plants growing up through the cracks.

mikemead,
@mikemead@mastodon.social avatar
wojtek,
@wojtek@fedi.sysartist.com avatar

@JulianOliver Still better than Lenovo's ThinkPads. As a T14s (AMD Gen1) owner - I'd be upgrading IBM models for as long as possible.
...which reminds me: gotta check hardware support for FrameWork, Dell and few other vendors' AMD-based laptops.

cassidy, to GNOME
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

A conversation that keeps popping up in my mind since FOSDEM centers around open source projects and “AI,” and I still don’t know what I think. So let me share some thoughts here on the famously nuance-friendly Internet. 😜

During a chat w/folks from several open source organizations, someone suggested GNOME could attract funding by “sprinkling some AI on it.” Several folks laughed at the topical joke, but then realized it was in earnest. 🧵

cassidy,
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

For example: object recognition in the Image Viewer app to remove backgrounds; algorithmically improved camera quality in video calls; autocorrect! These are all areas that use ML algorithms on other platforms, and I don’t think that’s bad; you take a bunch of data, train an algorithm, then ship that in the OS/GNOME/etc. to be genuinely helpful.

First, we can get on board with that, right? Personally, I don’t consider that “AI,” even.

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@cassidy AI has to be from the Hasn't Yet Shipped region of France, everything else is just sparkling algorithms.

gnuplusmatt, to openSUSE
@gnuplusmatt@fosstodon.org avatar

is it possible to compile your own ? Or ?

doesn't appear to be a bug for bug replacement and only has 5 years of LTS, with 10 if you pay...

This is a genuine question, I can't find any talk of this when discussing code drama the last few days

Conan_Kudo,
@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org avatar

@gnuplusmatt For SLE, it's possible. @adamw, @Defolos, and I were discussing it in another thread: https://mastodon.social/@Defolos/110605192192351928

But nobody actually needs 1:1, they need "good enough".

What has happened is that people haven't looked at critically to understand that it can suffice.

And it's a fully transparent build process:

Sources: https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/
Build system: https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/

@carlwgeorge has stated many times that it's ~95% identical and is "RHEL compatible".

Conan_Kudo,
@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org avatar

@gnuplusmatt @adamw @Defolos @carlwgeorge Outside of needing certifications and everything that implies, CentOS Stream should suffice as an LTS distribution for the vast majority of users. And most people would prefer updates to be released as soon as they're qualified, rather than waiting for a minor version boundary that's potentially six months away. That particular quirk of Enterprise Linux is the result of needing to qualify stuff for certifications and other things.

FineFindus, (edited ) to fedora
@FineFindus@floss.social avatar

Just installed the :fedora: 39 Beta. GNOME 45 looks so good

gregorni,
@gregorni@fosstodon.org avatar

@FineFindus In Deja Dup, I just select everything in my home directory, excluding dotfiles, but including .var (so I can keep my app data).

And it also takes several hours for me, so I think that's normal.

gregorni,
@gregorni@fosstodon.org avatar

@danyeaw @FineFindus OpenSUSE has also gotten really good, we used to have it on our living room PC. I'm just not a fan of all the networking and management tools they provide, I don't really need them.

cassidy, (edited ) to fedora
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TIL Fedora is packaging a web browser app I developed for elementary OS, stopped updating over three years ago, and marked as end-of-life two years ago—yet it happily shows up in Fedora 40 if you search my name. It crashes on launch, so it doesn’t even work…

WHY??

Edit: I guess the package is being EOL'd in Fedora due to it no longer building and this thread, huzzah! My recommendation to distros: don’t package random apps and then not maintain them/communicate with upstream.

berkough,
@berkough@mastodon.social avatar

@cassidy Maybe someone likes the program and wants to use it? Or, thinks they might be able to.

carlwgeorge,
@carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org avatar

@cassidy @adamw You don't have to create a bugzilla account. You can email <package>-maintainers@fedoraproject.org to reach the maintainers of a package.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EmailAliases#Package_maintainers_email_aliases

vwbusguy, to openSUSE
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

Fun fact: Leap and SLES peacefully co-exist while sharing the same public source code.

https://www.suse.com/c/closing-the-leap-gap-src/

vwbusguy,
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

@jzb @jwildeboer @bookwar @Conan_Kudo I didn't expect "ELevate works too well" to be a factor behind this, especially when you can also use it to upgrade RHEL, IIRC. I definitely had better luck with Alma's tool than leapp directly from Red Hat.

jzb,
@jzb@mastodon.social avatar

@vwbusguy @jwildeboer @bookwar @Conan_Kudo ease of upgrade isn’t the factor so much (I believe) as application compatibility.

Len0w0ThinkBad, to archlinux

Ok I'm a lightweight and I've drunk half a bottle of wine and want to do something silly so imma install on this x1 Carbon.

I could do it in a VM but that feels like not in the spirit of the enterprise.

Len0w0ThinkBad,

@WhyNotZoidberg I can't remember how to fix it and I have rather a lot of wine flowing through my brain I think I've fucked it lmao

WhyNotZoidberg,
@WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social avatar

@Len0w0ThinkBad Put the stick in, run fdisk and start over.

Is my humble suggestion. Of course with a bit of wine, or a lot of wine, there might be a better idea to wait... 😉

(Confession btw: I have a hard time visualizing disc partitions so when I install Arch I have a second stick with Ubuntu or something on that I run first, just to run Gparted from the stick and set everything up with empty partitions before booting on the arch stick and go from there)

fedora, to fedora
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Fedora Linux 40 is HERE! Check out all our latest variants for desktop, server, and more.

New features include:

  • @kde Plasma 6
  • @gnome 46
  • Fedora Atomic Desktops (rebrand for Silverblue et al)
  • PyTorch / ROCm
  • And more!

Learn more and try Fedora 40 today! https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-40/

fedora,
@fedora@fosstodon.org avatar

Fedora 40 comes with a refresh of our branded laptop collaboration... introducing the Slimbook Fedora 2!

@slimbook has packed this with exciting features like:

  • New black chassis
  • US ANSI keyboard layout
  • Intel i7 13th Gen CPU
  • Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPU
  • In 14" and 16" sizes

Learn more: https://fedoramagazine.org/slimbook-fedora-2-new-ultrabooks-for-fedora-linux-40/

fedora,
@fedora@fosstodon.org avatar

If Fedora 40 had a headlining change, it might be @kde Plasma 6. The KDE SIG have brought over all the hard work from that community to give you a solid desktop experience from day 1.

We're also pushing technology forward by making this release Wayland-only, though X11 apps will still work!

Plasma 6 is also available for our Kinoite users. :kinoite:

Give the Fedora KDE 40 spin a try today!
https://fedoramagazine.org/whats-new-in-fedora-kde-40/

hy grub noob here needs a looooot of help

hy im trying to install arch as the third os on my windows / ubuntu machine and i cant figure it out how to set the grub bootloader i have already read the friendly manual but probably also due to my non native English origins i coudnt find an answer to my question witch is during the arch install should i reinstall grub with...

cassidy, (edited ) to GNOME
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I've been talking a bit with folks working on GNOME about the state of the System Monitor app and its handful of community-made alternatives, then I had a thought:

Is it a wild idea to just... not have the app?

Wait wait, put away your pitchforks! We could do something better!

What if the reasons people actually use System Monitor were just exposed more contextually in the OS, for everyone? 🤔

For example...

PlutoisAPlanet,
@PlutoisAPlanet@mastodon.social avatar

@cassidy I'm running it here and it's using less CPU than System Monitor (1.45% vs 5.67%)

cassidy,
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

@PlutoisAPlanet that’s good!

timonsku, to debian
@timonsku@mastodon.social avatar

You know what irks me the most about this change to pip behaviour in Debian. Linux is such a foot gun by design, you can do anything you want with usually no resistance or warning by the distro or kernel but this is where the line is drawn??

It's not like you couldn't have gone the other way and wrap system python packages into their venv.

Let people do unwise things, there are so many better defaults they could have chosen (redirect to local user with warning).

#debian #pip

timonsku,
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@gadgetoid And look into PDM and pipx
both make venv more managable for different use cases, hopinh Pi could maybe package them in their distro

gadgetoid,
@gadgetoid@fosstodon.org avatar

@timonsku they are pretty receptive about adopting package suggestions for stuff like this. I also had a bunch of our drivers Debian packaged and uploaded to their repository, but the GPIO changes basically broke all of them.

fedora, to fedora
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fedora,
@fedora@fosstodon.org avatar

As part of supporting free and open source software, @slimbook will be donating 3% of the revenue of each Fedora Slimbook sale to the @gnome Foundation, because this laptop comes with unmodified Fedora Workstation out of the box!

fedora,
@fedora@fosstodon.org avatar

We’re grateful for @slimbook choosing Fedora as a distro they want to support with a product launch. Our hardware partner initiative is one we're trying to grow this year, and the Fedora Slimbook is a valuable part of that. ❤️

Make sure to check it out! https://fedora.slimbook.es/

popey, (edited ) to ubuntu
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Two days before 24.04 LTS releases, and the upgrade process seems quite badly broken. If you're an adventurous person, I'd wait for quite some time before upgrading...

Edit: With some brutal hardcore apt and dpkg, I fixed it.

juliank,
@juliank@mastodon.social avatar

@popey tbh, speaking personally, I'd generally advise everyone to be ready to reinstall when upgrading to 24.04 or later when Debian trixie comes out, the t64 transition is messing things up badly.

If it works, good, but there's no way to know for sure ahead of time.

popey,
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