atomicpoet, (edited )
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

President Joe Biden’s Threads account @potus is federating on the Fediverse!

And I’m following him from atomicpoet.org!

Wow! This is as monumental as Barack Obama joining Twitter! A truly historic day for the !

@fediversenews

gme,
@gme@queerfedi.com avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews It's only a one-way feed though.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@gme @fediversenews @potus It’s only a one-way feed right now.

CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@gme

@fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Accounts like @potus are gonna be used as a one way broadcast layer no matter what service they are on. It's pretty much just for announcements and statements, not direct interaction with people.

Which, when we are talking any political office might be best.

gme,
@gme@queerfedi.com avatar

@CWSmith @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

  1. Do our politicians need a larger bully pulpit than what they already have?
  2. Kind of defeats the entire "social" purpose of "social media" then doesn't it?
CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@gme @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Have you ever known a Politicians X, Meta, or whatever account to answer commentors like us?

It's post the statement, get it out there, set and forget.

I don't remember any account talking back and not causing the politico more problems.

gme,
@gme@queerfedi.com avatar

@CWSmith @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Nice deflection.

I don't remember any account talking back and not causing the politico more problems.

If a politician isn't willing to engage with their constituents, do they really deserve my vote?

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@gme @fediversenews @CWSmith @potus It’s ultimately not up to you to decide who is or is not worth following on the Fediverse.

Maybe your admin can make that decision for you, but they certainly don’t make that decision for me.

CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@atomicpoet @gme @potus @fediversenews

Agreed. It's why I spun my own instance in the first place.

CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@gme @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

That's a completely different discussion.

gme,
@gme@queerfedi.com avatar

@CWSmith @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Fine. Then how about answering my questions?

  1. Do our politicians need a larger bully pulpit than what they already have?
  2. Kind of defeats the entire "social" purpose of "social media" then doesn't it?
CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@gme @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Do you need it? Our politicians take every opportunity they can to push out whatever their message is at any time. If anything we need them to do it so we can at least know what they are saying and keep track.

And it doesn't defeat the social part of social media. Making a statement and letting the masses discuss is just as socially valid as answering every post.

gme,
@gme@queerfedi.com avatar

@CWSmith @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

Maybe if Biden was forced to hear from his constituents he might learn that his policies towards Israel are woefully unpopular. Instead he's insulated himself and only hears from his sycophants.

At least Obama got out there and talked to the people. Before this campaign season started when was the last time Biden actually sat down and met with his constituents?

If I want to just hear what the White House says there are a multitude of avenues to be spoon fed the spin.

My point is it's not really that great that @potus is here. Not when Threads is only broadcasting Threads users to the Fediverse and not taking any of the replies. (And I'm a staunch supporter for Threads being on the fediverse!)

But another broadcast channel is the absolute last thing we need.

CWSmith,
@CWSmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com avatar

@gme @fediversenews @atomicpoet @potus

The one directional nature of the Threads Federation right now is just out of everyone on Threads hands. That's gonna be on Meta to eventually address and put up. Otherwise there is no benifit for a Threads user to hit that Fediverse switch. Why would they care what people they can't see think or how many follow them if they can't even follow back?

petrescatraian,

@CWSmith that's the case with pretty much every political/important person account that I know of (and on everything social media). They only keep their account for posting and not much else. Following them is like using a glorified feed reader.

@atomicpoet @gme @potus

stib,
@stib@aus.social avatar

@atomicpoet
My instance doesn't federate with the genocide enabliers, so this is what I see if I click on the @potus links everyone is putting in this thread. Much more wholesome.
@fediversenews

caligula9997,

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews another reason to support

dozymoe,
@dozymoe@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews i guess Bluesky is going to federate as well, unless they see it as a competition and lobbied to move the account tontheir platform.

dave,
@dave@az.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews fabulous, I can liberate myself from @potus

... which makes me think: @vincent I wonder if you could inject 'now verified in fediverse at...' posts? 🤔

noyes,
@noyes@mastodon.online avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews

is coming to Mastodon. Put on your PPE and the kids so he doesn't get them.

jann,
@jann@twit.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews The problem? He can’t see our responses to a post - still! It’s not federating. It’s cross-posting.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@jann @potus He can see our likes and boosts which are responses. As far as comments, he can’t see them yet.

Threads is still beta testing ActivityPub.

Hunterrules0_o,
@Hunterrules0_o@techhub.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews WAKE UP another 87 year old corrupt politican joined the fediverse. its not like he just joined threads and will almost never acess any part of the fediverse. How amazing is that!!!

billyjoebowers,
@billyjoebowers@mastodon.online avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews

Hm. Well maybe I'll unblock Threads. I just blocked it.

eatyourglory,
@eatyourglory@mastodon.uno avatar

@billyjoebowers @atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews Why did you just block it?

juliank,
@juliank@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews wait for the shitstorm when boosting POTUS posts because they don't have CW: uspol

timo21,
@timo21@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews I was able to connect to @potus via the Vivaldi Mastodon instance.

TheJen,
@TheJen@beige.party avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Not the least bit pleased they are on the facebook fork.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@TheJen @fediversenews You would think that the U.S. government would run their own Fediverse server. But it is what it is.

TheJen,
@TheJen@beige.party avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Well, yeah. Obviously. Lol.

Rairii,

@atomicpoet @TheJen @fediversenews i think someone said at some point that it'd take a miracle for the us government to set up a fediverse server because of bureaucracy things

eatyourglory,
@eatyourglory@mastodon.uno avatar

@Rairii @atomicpoet @TheJen @fediversenews The EU have their own server and are having no problems: https://social.network.europa.eu

TheJen,
@TheJen@beige.party avatar

@Rairii @atomicpoet @fediversenews If they can be on Twitter, they can be here.

Twitter_expat,
@Twitter_expat@mastodon.world avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews

Im absolutely following him.

dracoling,

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews how is the current state of threads.net federation the EXACT same thing as the twitter relays and other services that already exist? Publish only is not federation.

foxyloxy,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews you might know this Chris - does Pleroma have a problem with Threads federation? I cannot find or follow a single threads.net account from M-m-m-myPleroma personal instance

argumento,
@argumento@hispagatos.space avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews

Joe Biden is guilty of facilitating genocide, and he shouldn't be welcomed anywhere.

Not only the US used it's veto power in the UN SC 4 times (if memory doesn't fail me), the US government just approved a billion dollars arms shipment to Israel (who is plausibly committing genocide according to the ICJ AND disregarding the las UN SC resolution calling for a cease fire).

No sympathy for genocide nor for the people that fund it.

MargaretD,
@MargaretD@mstdn.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus @fediversenews thanks for the heads up. I just followed. Really happy about this

engarneering,
@engarneering@floss.social avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews dang. Guess the dems picked a side in the conflict and it wasnt mine.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

I would prefer that @potus run his own Fediverse server but this is materially better than him not being on the Fediverse at all.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

And by joining , @potus has pretty much forced the hand of the Fediverse to federate with Threads.

In the USA, if the Fediverse is going to be used for political organization, you need to receive and boost messages from @potus.

noondlyt,
@noondlyt@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus I have no intention of following him on Threads. There are direct ways to communicate with politicians. This is peculiar logic you have used here.

gigatexal,
@gigatexal@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus if Biden wins then yay but if that handle is a Trump handle nope nope nope. I’ll buy or run my own node and defederate everything and anyone connected to his lying Putin loving ass

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@gigatexal @potus Then you might as well leave the Fediverse entirely.

You can definitely block Threads, but it’s near impossible to block all servers that block Threads.

HistoPol,
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet
Do you mean that DON'T block Threads?

@gigatexal @potus

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar
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oblomov,
@oblomov@sociale.network avatar

@atomicpoet This is essentially the nail in the coffin for the Fediverse. Nothing to rejoice at all.
https://sociale.network/@oblomov/112203725365230339

stefan, (edited )
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@atomicpoet Mindboggling, given that this is already being worked on:

https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/111978315030059050

TLDR: A team within the federal government is looking into setting up a .gov Mastodon server, they're now "in phase 2".

teleclimber,
@teleclimber@social.tchncs.de avatar

@stefan @atomicpoet That's gonna have to be a beefy server given the large number of gov officials and the number of followers and interactions they get.

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@teleclimber @atomicpoet I'll be happy for my taxes to go towards that!

Colby,
@Colby@mastodon.world avatar

@stefan sure hope so. Biden is now posting on threads

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@Colby Yeah, I'm still feeling pretty optimistic. 🤞

NullNowhere,
@NullNowhere@sakurajima.social avatar

@stefan @atomicpoet

I mean in reality

  • Campaigns / officials have used multiple services in the past to reach the widest possible audience.
  • Likely, those involved with the POTUS arriving on threads know little about the difference between mastodon and Threads and how (and if) they communicate.
  • The core problem of validating government officials identities is not solved by threads since you cannot bring a domain to threads.

So really this kinda seems like a big ol' Nothing Burger, unless you're a threads user ​:cirno_shrug:​ Even saying 'the fediverse is FORCED' is hyperbolic. His ass wasn't here before, and huge swaths of the fediverse aren't American.

morph,
@morph@morphnet.de avatar

@stefan We have that yet. See the historical post when the government declares marijuana as legalized*.
➡️ https://social.bund.de/@Bundesregierung/112139495304415295

*) feat. a bit of bureaucratic limitations

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@morph Very cool, congratulations on both!

GLaDTheresCake,
@GLaDTheresCake@todon.nl avatar

@atomicpoet yeah, no. America is not the world, I would rather defederate from the whole US than federate with threads. And I don't want that genocide supporting douchebag on this service anyway, the politicians can stay out.

MisuseCase,
@MisuseCase@twit.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus Not directly, people can make bots that do it, the way there are bots that will rebroadcast certain people’s Twitter posts. You can basically have a DMZ for it and let the rest of us defederate from Threads.

It’s not like the POTUS account is going to reply to us if we comment on it anyway!

artemesia,
@artemesia@techhub.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus

> @potus has pretty much forced the hand of the Fediverse to federate with Threads.

Nonsense. I'm perfectly capable of receiving the president's messaging via other means, of which there are hundreds.

The threads.net domain will remain blocked by my account. I want nothing to do with a company that sold out its userbase to russia to influence the 2016 election.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

@artemesia Sure, you don’t have to follow @potus and you can block Threads. But the bulk of the Fediverse is federating with Threads and will likely continue to federate with it.

Cotopaxi,
@Cotopaxi@mstdn.social avatar

@atomicpoet @potus I would love to follow @potus, but I'm blocking the Threads domain. It's not worth allowing my, or other people's, data to be mined by Meta and sold to third parties without our consent, often without our knowledge. I sincerely hope the account will explore the benefits of running an account in the fediverse that isn't tied in through Zuckerberg's malignant social network.

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