I'm 59. When I was born, segregation existed, interracial marriage was illegal and women were not allowed to have credit cards in their own names until I was 11 years old. CIVIL RIGHTS ARE A NEW THING.
@StillIRise1963 I’m 65. Domestic violence was considered a family matter. No one was prosecuted for it, women were told by their various churches to do better and endure.
Rape was impossible to prosecute. There was no Miranda Law. No fault divorce did not exist. My mother had to get written permission from her father to go to college.
Abortion was illegal at every stage. Segregation was the norm. Civil rights did not exist.
They want us to go back to that time.
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 I went to rent a television (which was what we used to do) and was told I'd have to have my husband's signature. I went looking for contraception (in England) and was told the same; apparently he owned my body
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 They also want us to go back to when millions of people became sick, disabled, or dead from polio, measles, whooping cough, etc.
@KathleenFuller@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 My mother had all these terrible diseases when she was a child. She is kind of meek, but will absolutely stand her ground when it comes to anti-vaxxers. She has one short leg to prove it, and shames them.
@Nichelle@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 Other than whooping cough and smallpox, I had everything before the vaccines became available. I was a baby during the last major summer of polio. The vaccine was being tested on school kids. It wasn't available for babies until the next year. Fortunately, I had a mild case. My legs didn't work for several months, but then I was fine. I had just turned 8 when I got the measles. I was very sick for one month. My mom kept me in a dark room to protect my vision.
@KathleenFuller@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 My mother had to wear braces on her legs for a while after polio. She also had to stay in a dark room, blindfolded, for measles. And nearly died of whooping cough. She didn't get smallpox, thank goodness. She is 80, and also remembers all the struggling for women's rights.
@KathleenFuller@StillIRise1963 my father was born in ‘24 and suffered from the polio he contracted as a child his entire life, ending with post Polio syndrome and the Parkinson’s disease often seen in polio survivors. I have zero patience with the anti vax people.
@piratero@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 at the end of the day, an economic system built on the incessant and misery accumulation of capital is inherently unstable, leads to tyrannical monopolies, and causes the deaths of thousands of innocent people. We need something else.
I'm 54. My intro crim law class was taught by a semiretired distinguished prof, elderly then, who had been an antitrust regulator under FDR, and was considered solidly liberal. He told our class he believed spousal rape was a logical impossibility. Already that view was old-fashioned, but it also was not a scandal to say that to students. Took me a while to work out that one of my favorite professors thought of marriage as an asymmetrical property transaction.
@MBridegam@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 Spousal rape was made illegal here (Germany) only 10 or 15 years ago (partially against conservative votes ofc, their actual leader (who voted against) claims to be a 'feminist' because he has a wife and a daughter (yes, you read right) ).
When i heard about spousal rape becoming illegal i was like wtf, how on earth it was legal until today?
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 I'm about to turn 62--ditto on everything you ladies have written. I was born & raised in TX, & when I was a kid, under Article 1220 of the TX Penal Code (the "paramour law"), a man could shoot & kill his wife's lover if he caught them together. Because the lover was violating the man's PROPERTY (aka his wife). I was 12 yrs old when the statute was finally repealed.
@BootsChantilly@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 Yes. Also Culture of Honor attitudes which are still prevalent in the South view killing the man who violated another man's 'property' as justified.
@KathleenFuller@BootsChantilly@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 By property do you mean women and children? That appears to be the case in the US Government, where women are not allowed to make decisions regarding their own bodies. It’s preposterous, negligent, harmful, disrespectful, and horrible!
@fulanigirl@BootsChantilly@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 And those exemptions weren't outlawed nationwide until 1993! I'm somewhat younger than a lot of people posting on this thread, but I was an actual live adult by then.
Even now there are still locations in the US where spousal and non-spousal rape are treated differently (with the spousal variant having higher burdens of evidence and/or less serious criminal penalties). Right. Now. In. The. US.
Many of these states require or appear to require some form of overt physical violence to count, meaning that drugging your spouse beforehand, or a spouse's inability to consent because of drugs they themselves took, is not counted as rape. (Shudder.)
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 I go back and look at N.O.W. newsletter archives from the 90s to see how far we advanced and how quickly they've erased both history and rights - openly.
Topics in July 1996:
• Welfare/Medicaid "reform"
• Minimum Wage
• Anti-Same Sex Marriage Legislation
• Anti-affirmative Action
• Women's Educational Equity Act Victory
• Reproductive Rights Victory!
• International Family Planning
• Human Embryo Research
• Women in prison and women federal employees
• FDA Emergency Contraceptive Relabeling
• Mifepristone (RU-486)
• Violence Against Women Funding
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963@cstross Also 65. Segregation definitely the norm. People who were LGB were the butt of jokes. Not sufficiently aware of the existence of trans people to make fun of them. People with disabilities: no ADA. No Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. The difference between the education available for my brother with intellectual disabilities (nothing, until my parents paid for a residential school) and that available to my daughter 35 years later is astonishing.
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 in the mid ‘70s Chargex/Visa wouldn’t give my fully employed wife a credit card without my signature. She got a MasterCard... for 45 years.
@CatDragon@StillIRise1963 It terrifies and disgusts me that my daughter, soon to be 20, has fewer freedoms than I did at that age. This is not how it’s supposed to work. I’m so grateful we live in Illinois, but the theocrats are gaining steam and it’s not a promise that our state will remain this way. I am also afraid of where she will one day end up living due to her career. It feels beyond comprehension sometimes that this is happening.
@DrPsyBuffy@CatDragon@StillIRise1963
I'll watch old TV Shows from the '70s and sometimes they'll bleep something stupid b/c there are people who are more uptight & easily offended today than 50 years ago.
@MugsysRapSheet@StillIRise1963@CatDragon Do you ever notice how surprisingly progressive the 70s were? I will watch old clips and they’ll be talking abortion like it’s no big whoop and it’s quite discombobulating because of how fucking religious America is now.
@DrPsyBuffy@MugsysRapSheet@StillIRise1963@CatDragon The argument I've heard was that the radical movements that people associate with the 60s actually peaked in the early 70s. Liberalism absorbed them and gradually disarmed them, setting up for the backlash of the Reagan/Thatcher years.
I did get ACTUAL affirmative action for my undergrad, though. They weren't admitting many Black men into the elite service academies, then around 1972-ish they were. (In 1976 they started admitting women. Some white men were... quite confused, and never recovered. Flies on the wall had many stories.)
@DrPsyBuffy@MugsysRapSheet@StillIRise1963@CatDragon
You must be watching old Norman Lear shows, like All In The Family. Lear and others knew just how conservative and religious the culture was and chose to drag progressive issues into the light to change minds. Often to public outrage. But it worked.
As always, things don't get better if you can't/don't talk about it.
@_L1vY_@Ruth_Mottram@StillIRise1963@DrPsyBuffy@CatDragon
The right-wing #PowerGrab is happening in all countries where the essentially fascist International Democrat Union is active. The worrisome aspect about this development is the high percentage of voters clamouring for dictatorship of the narcissistic psychopaths leading the respective parties.
@StillIRise1963 I am old enough to remember being on a school trip bus to the old Honolulu Zoo, and seeing a touristy couple holding hands walking down Kalaukaua Avenue. A white girl from the American South who transferred in, loudly announced to our busload of non-white mixed race local kids that a Black man and a white woman together was an abomination against God's law and the laws of man. Miscegenation was wrong, she said. When we all protested in an uproar, she retreated to "I'm only concerned about their kids. Mongrel kids. I feel sorry for their kids."
This was before Loving.
The evil side wants to undo Loving.
We won't go back. We won't go back.
Vote. Vote. Vote.
@pattykimura All the parents of my friends in all white neighborhoods said the same thing to me - they were just "worried about the kids." White parents told me all their opinions about race from 3rd grade up.
@pattykimura@StillIRise1963 I'm in Portland, Oregon in 2023, in what was once called a mixed marriage, and a few of my neighbors still have emotional problems with it.
@pattykimura@StillIRise1963 I loved my maternal grandma, but she was a racist. She took issue with a Cherokee man in her church marrying a white woman, and she thought it was against God when their mixed-race daughter married a Black man. When I was 15, she also told my mom, her daughter, that she'd be disappointed in me if I ever dated a Black boy.
Good thing I never appointed her in the first place.
@StillIRise1963@LizDylan@Mary625@TenPenny Long before I went to school, we visited his aunt Helen in MI. Helen was a beautiful woman who was said to have terrible taste in men. One abused her one time too many. She threw either hot grits or Drano on him as he lay sleeping. She served time and we went to the prison to see her. I was a bundle of questions and wondered why she couldn't come on a picnic with us.
@Mary625@StillIRise1963@LizDylan My mother said he didn't want to press charges despite the DA's decision. She said he'd planned to "take care of her himself."
I also remember as a young boy in the early 70s, my mother told me that she had told a couple of women where the key to our house was, and that if they needed to escape, they could come in any time of the day or night.
It took me a few years to realize that she knew these women were suffering abuse, and was offering to help.
@TenPenny@StillIRise1963@LizDylan When I was in first grade [edited to correct to "1960s"], a classmate used to bring his little brother & ask to stay at our house for a while b/c "Daddy's drunk again and he has a gun." Their mom was scared to press charges. Eventually Daddy shot Mama and himself. She lived, he didn't.
In the 60's, 70's women & children had nowhere to go. Police wouldn't get involved. If a woman divorced, she could be left with nothing. And the woman would be blamed. If her husband abused her, she must have done something wrong.
@LizDylan@TenPenny@StillIRise1963 California got no-fault divorce in 1969 (first state in the US). Not until 2010 did the last of the 50 states (NY) approve no-fault divorce.
California was the first. Then high profile divorces. Sonny & Cher. Bob Dylan (his wife took him to the cleaners) etc. Subsequently, things changed but it was slow. Now, Florida has overhauled alimony laws leaving women potentially vulnerable.
it is better but there are still few places for them.
when i was a domestic violence sounselor, we learned that there are three times as many animal shelters in the US as there are shelters for abused women.
the need for shelter was so great, the shelter so overwhelmed, as a counselor who answered the hotline, i had to screen ppl who wanted to come to the shelter to ensure that their lives were actually in imminent danger.
My brother was a social worker for a hospital in the late 80's/early 90's. He had to deal with women who were beaten and raped by husbands/boyfriends. His job was to get them to press charges. Most didn't. And when they were released, it was the husband/boyfriend who picked them up. And a few weeks later, the women would be back eventually DOA. These women were poor, undocumented with nowhere to go.
@rustoleumlove I remember calling an abuse hotline in the late 80s, looking for meetings for a woman friend of mine who was in a violent relationship with another woman. All the places back then said they couldn't help her because the women in the meetings would get mad. 🙄 @LizDylan@epicdemiologist@TenPenny
On the flip side, in the 80's, there was young man who I worked with. We started to notice he was coming to work with bruises, disheveled clothes, and looking like he hadn't slept. Sometimes wearing the same clothes for days. It turns out he was living with an older woman who was beating him. Destroyed his clothes. Locking him out of the apartment. He said the police didn't believe him. He did quit his job and move back home
a few years back (in late 90s England) before public services got digital encrypted radios I was listening on a radio scanner (you weren't officially allowed to do this but many did) - cops compromised the location of the local womens' refuge on air - fully knowing that folk had scanners (and they were a mixture of left/anarchist types like myself, and those who were /too right wing/ to join into the Police)
@rustoleumlove@epicdemiologist@LizDylan@TenPenny@StillIRise1963 the same cops were perfectly capable of getting the control room to turn off talkthrough or using a digital mobile phone when they needed more secure/private comms, especially when this was needed to protect their officers, and their training (of the era) warned them that the UHF and VHF analogue radio schemes were insecure, and to be careful what they said on them..
@TenPenny@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 The Dyke Van Dyke Show? No.
Make Room for Daddy? No.
The Donna Reed Show? No.
Father Knows Best? No.
The Flintstones? No.
Leave it to Beaver? No.
I Love Lucy? No.
These 1950s and 1960s primetime shows had none of that and Alice knew Ralph wouldn't dare. There were plenty of issues with these white-bread, shows, but which ones featured domestic abuse as an acceptable practice?
@servelan@TenPenny@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 Alice wasn't some cowering housewife in fear of Ralph. It clearly was an idle threat. But today, there are people who want the statue of Gleason as Kramden removed from the NY City Port Authority Bus Terminal because of it.
@LizDylan@servelan@SharonGibson3@TenPenny@StillIRise1963 While I appreciate Lucille Ball’s enormous comedic talent, I hated that show as a child in the 1970s because it seemed as though every episode was about Lucy wanting to do something that her husband wouldn’t “let“ her.
@servelan Think about Bewitched for a sec. Darren Stevens is married to a woman who has magical powers. Instead of working with her to use her powers for his own/their own benefit, he makes her hide them, not use them, and be ashamed of them, her family, witch culture on the whole. He makes her deny herself, deny who she is, oppressing, subjugating her to soothe his own pathetic lesser than ego. @StandUp2Fascism@LizDylan@SharonGibson3@TenPenny
@StillIRise1963@servelan@LizDylan@SharonGibson3@TenPenny Yes, her power is suppressed. I understand that a show needs to have conflict, but why have Samantha choose to marry a man who wants her to hide the biggest part of herself? They could have had him be supportive and have to hide it from everyone else, but it was the 1960s. Elizabeth Montgomery was an awesome woman. I wish she’d lived longer.
@StillIRise1963@StandUp2Fascism@LizDylan@SharonGibson3@TenPenny And if you laugh at it, the harsh lesson's easier to absorb that if you're a woman, that's what you should do. We also got the memo that the strong, silent type of man is best (Westerns, full of traumatized Civil War vets) and the man in charge is best.
I remember an article in which it was described that the entire premise of the show was to show how stupid racism is. I have no idea if that were true.
Elizabeth Montgomery went on to do the movie, A Case of Rape. It was wonderful. She was, at least, a feminist and an advocate for the LGBTQ community
The important bit is he always failed every time he tried to flex his muscle. Endora ate him for lunch more often than not. Sam's family only let him live because Samantha loved him.
@StillIRise1963@CurtAdams@servelan@StandUp2Fascism@LizDylan@TenPenny Queen for a Day was a game show that started on radio in 1945. It then moved to TV, NBC from 1956 to 1960, and on ABC, 1960-'64. The premise: Women told heartbreaking stories and the "best" one earned the winning contestant a major household appliance, e.g., a refrigerator, an electric range. (One episode featured a Holocaust survivor as a contestant.) I told one of my daughters about this show and she was astonished.
Julian Bond once wondered, "If this is a contest, what on earth is the prize," when asked about comparisons between The Middle Passage/chattel slavery and the Holocaust.
Well, on Queen for a Day, it's a Westinghouse refrigerator or an Amana range. (You can almost hear the gleeful voiceover announcing the prize.)
@StillIRise1963@CurtAdams@servelan@StandUp2Fascism@LizDylan@TenPenny Jack Bailey was the host of Queen for a Day. I remember him as a barrel-shaped man who interviewed these poor women. In addition to being rewarded with a stove or some such, contest winners got to wear a crown on their heads, along with a fur-collared cape if memory serves.
Yes. I was about to mention "Bewitched" and you beat me to it. Hiding her power because it made her husband uncomfortable seemed such a metaphor to me, even as a child. 😔
@TenPenny@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 I absolutely loved the I Love Lucy show growing up but, even as a child, I never understood why she had to ask Ricky for an allowance, and even worse, why he would spank her. Remember that?! Of course, I also always wondered why he never let her be in his club shows. The woman was a riot! She always made those better! 😂😂
@StillIRise1963@TenPenny@LizDylan Even in Loony Toons: Pepe le pew attacking that poor cat every chance he got. FFS, we were watching this as toddlers! 😒😤
@MeeMee I never liked those cartoons because of the violence. I didn't understand why it was funny, so I never watched them. But, they definitely helped ingrain that violence was funny.@TenPenny@LizDylan
@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 when we went to work, all the job listings were "help wanted: men" and "help wanted: women" -- in my high school, there were separate requirements for graduation (boys took Shop, girls took Home Ec.) There were a million little ways we were kept in our place.
@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 Married in 1975. Wife kept her name- insurance agent didn’t know any to do, so issued the house policy as “Mr. and Mrs. ____”. My mother addressed letters to us using only our first names.
@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 lol, my hubby took my name, and my grandparents still sent our wedding gift addressed to Mr and Mrs (his old name).
@StillIRise1963@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan yeah, for him it was because he had no connection to his adopted family. He was one of the many indigenous children who were adopted out to white families with little to no oversight.
@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 When I was very young (late '70s) my family had a handwritten address book (remember those?) with a "Mrs. J. P. Nash" at an address I knew as my grandma's.
I asked my mom who this Mrs. J. P. was.
Answer: "That's your grandma."
My response: "Uhhhh, her name's Dorothy."
Unsatisfying explanation of an awful social convention ensued, which has mostly gone away in active practice, but is still very much in living memory.
@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 It was especially confusing because Mr. J. P. Nash had died a few years earlier, and had not, in fact, ever lived at that address. Mrs. very-much-not-J. P. Nash was the only plausible occupant of that address. I was genuinely wondering what on Earth the person who wrote that name was thinking.
That person was, in fact, my mother, who was (for the time at least) very strongly feminist. It went to show just how deeply these harmful social practices went.
@hmoulding@dpnash@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 This. I kept my own last name when I married, and still have to explain to people that yes, I am married to my husband despite our different names. We get Christmas cards from older members of his family to Mr and Mrs [husband's first and last name].
My ex was a business owner and well known in our city. When we separated, I was always introduced as "This is 'his name' ex-wife." Like I was a nobody. 😡
@dpnash@SonofaGeorge@LizDylan@StillIRise1963 I still remember thinking "who?" when I received a letter from my mother addressed to Mr. and Mrs. [Husband's first and last name] 0_o - Now that I'm doing ancestry research, I have to search on Mrs. [Husband's name] to pull up newspaper articles about the wife of a family.
@sarae@StillIRise1963 I don't blame her. I have my own AE horror story where I was charged twice for the same flight and they refused (for almost a year) to remove the dupe. I continued to receive nasty calls and mail for months. Once they finally admitted it was their mistake I canceled once I received my new statement showing the dupe charge and all associated fees had been removed. That was over 30 years ago! Hat tip to your mama.
@sarae@StillIRise1963 To the day she died my mom refused to get a Sears card for the same reason. They rejected her as a newly divorced single mom in 1972. When they sent her offers decades later she’d shout “If I wasn’t good enough in 1972 I’m not good enough now!” before she threw it in the trash.
@AmandaWeaver@sarae@StillIRise1963 Sears had improved by 77-78. For a long time theirs was the only card I was able to get a single, employed woman with a recent Masters degree.
@sarae@StillIRise1963 They were still doing the same thing in the late 80s. Lost my card when I got divorced even though my single income was more than our combined income when I signed up for it- & he wasn't on it!
@sarae@StillIRise1963 I'm just as spiteful. There are organizations I have boycotted for 40+ years. It's unfortunate that they don't feel it. But it's a matter of principle.
@StillIRise1963 my aunt is your age. She was taken from her family involuntarily, placed with a white family, forbidden to speak Navajo or practice her religion, under threat of physical abuse.
@sigrithur No evils are in the past here. They all exist in the present and within us. The bottom line is, before our faux rights become real, they want to make sure they're gone.
I'm 69. My older sister was denied a credit card in her name even though she was the one working and her lazy ass husband was not. I was 20 when that law was changed.
@DeborahForPlus@StillIRise1963 There's a reason why one of the first steps authoritarian regimes do prior to enacting punitive legislation is burn the history books. They're pouring the concrete for their false Narrative.
@mpax@StillIRise1963 It's easy to imagine why so many toxic hyper-masculine dudes like Andrew Tate are nostalgic for the "good old days". The systemic misogyny elevated mediocre men to the status of royalty.
@StillIRise1963 I will be 59 at the end of this month and I point these things out to my 21 year old son often. The first time I told him that I was about ten or eleven years old before women could even get a credit card in their own name without a husband’s concurrence, he was astounded. He was in disbelief that single women could not have one at all. IN MY LIFETIME!!!
@FiveSeventeen@StillIRise1963 That may be her wish to protect her from potential harassment. There’s enough bad intention out there - we don’t need to manufacture any
@StillIRise1963 In about 1975, the year of our marriage, my wife got a Mastercard because Chargex/Visa wouldn’t give her a card without my signature. Here’s the punchline- she had a job and I was still a student. She still uses the Mastercard.
@StillIRise1963
I'm 74, UK, when I was young abortion was illegal being LGBTQI was illegal. Racism wasn't illegal. Divorce wasn't possible. Women couldn't get a mortgage or bank account. I was taught my education was important because I might marry an important man like a Bank funking Manager
@StillIRise1963 married 40 years this year to a wonderful woman originally from Hong Kong. We suffered some discrimination in Australia, but nothing like what many seemed to have endured (are still enduring) for who they choose to love.
@WaltFrench Congrats on your 44 years! And, yeah, it can be very ugly. My husband and I have been married 35 years, together 38. Many were not pleased, from randos in the grocery store or the line for a movie to friends, and family members. Crazy things happened and many words were spoken.
@StillIRise1963 I have never had anybody say a negative word to me personally. Chinese people enjoy much less—not none—of the hatred I see aimed at Blacks
Likewise the anti-miscegenation laws weren’t really aimed t our kind. Just that when bigots have free run they get carried away
@StillIRise1963 and the Republicans are working as hard as they can to take them away again. And a LOT of people apparently think that’s just fine. What the fuck America?
@StillIRise1963 I tell people every year in November that my Dad wasn't legally allowed to vote in this country until he was a full-blown adult when they consider staying home, not registering or voting "other" to be contrary. I take participation very seriously because my Dad wasn't allowed to participate simply because he was a Black man.
At the community level about a third of the people raged to have others drop dead rather than being inconvenienced while another third just quietly any pathetically watched.
@komputernik
I don't necessarily agree with the numbers, but there are a tremendous amount of people who just seemed to think my death was inevitable so why try.
I still haven't gotten COVID, and I am trying to make that a pattern.
A LOT more people were comfortable with being the bad guys than I think realized they would be.
I do think the pandemic galvanized a lot of us further into who we were.
@StillIRise1963
From people all over the world, the left, and the African Americans who fought such an egregious human rights violation, thank you.
Now, we need to uphold them against the conservatives and far-righties who want to keep society from "race mixing".
Fuck the right. I'm a leftist, and I can affirm you that you have the left's full support for civil rights. The New Left did fight for the civil rights movement y'know.
@south_lib@StillIRise1963 as someone that has more of the thought processes of the Old Left, rest assured that many social democrats also support the movement for racial equality.
@StillIRise1963
Working as a newly minted engineer in thr late '60s i was chatting with the draftsman assigned to my project and mentioned that a current popular movie was playing at a nearby theater (on 14th Street, 2 blocks from the White House). Eric said when I was growing up we were not allowed to go to that theater. His mom would not tell them why. I had been sympathetic, followed the news of church bombings, beatings, fire hoses etc. "down south", but Eric made it personal.
@StillIRise1963
I'm 54 and still remember arguments over bussing in the 70s. My elementary school was not integrated as far as I remember. My other schools had so few students of color that my mom accused me of "experimenting" on my kids because our schools are less than half white. She's since learning about bias which is cool, but yeah, civil rights are definitely still a work in progress.
I'm 61. I was in the first group of students in Denver that were bussed to new schools in an attempt to racially integrate after the Keyes vs District 1 Supreme court decision. From my direct experience as well as what I've read over the years since, it wasn't a success. Over 30,000 mostly white students fled the district to the suburbs essentially abandoning the effort to failure. 🙁
@cshlan@StillIRise1963
I am 60 and I remember that when the local high school district started discussing doing integration busing the pastors son at our church (Southern Baptist church) started getting the guys together to "bash their heads as soon at they get off the bus" (a racist slur was included which I have left out) (the integration busing never materialized)
@StillIRise1963 I’m 53. Where I came from, when I was a teenager, a woman was murdered by her boyfriend because she was seeing somebody else. He was caught but acquitted in trial on grounds of “legitimate defense of honor”.
@StillIRise1963 I'm 53. When my mom married my dad, she had to leave her teaching job by law. Only five years after I was born, the law changed and she could start teaching again. (This is .nl btw)
@StillIRise1963 53, When I was a child I thought the US was on a track for increasing civil rights; about 15 years ago I realized that my childhood started in a brief interregnum in a long history of racial oppression. I finally put the timeline together a few years ago that interracial marriages only became legally recognized in the US three years before I was born.
@StillIRise1963 I’m 57. At my undergrad university the frat boy party ran for student govt with a semi joking platform of arming everyone with bats to beat gay men who hit on them. No one in the administration said a word.
@StillIRise1963 I went to school in north Alabama starting in the mid 70s, my high school class had 600 kids but maybe only 30 kids who weren't white. I didn't understand why until years later when I learned about redlining. I still live near that area and a couple years ago before the pandemic heard about a new desegregation committee for the city school system because it's still really segregated--over 50 years after the Civil Rights Act.
@Jennifer_Pinkley@StillIRise1963 I worked in a school system in the 2010s for a poor mississippi neighborhood. Even inside this one school system, the quality of supplies, number of teachers, etc. was crazy high just across a bridge for a mostly white school. The mostly black and latine school I worked at was definitely not getting anything near equal.
Segregation is still going on! It's just not called that now... well, not called that by the fucks who want to keep it going.
@ArmyGirl@Marenzers@Jennifer_Pinkley@StillIRise1963 New York City public schools are more segregated now than they were in the 1960s. I live in NYC and have raised two daughters in the public school system here. There are many factors involved, but a major one is simply that privileged white parents are very often racist and see non-white children as a sign of a poor school.
Here's one of many articles about it, in case people from elsewhere find it hard to believe:
@StillIRise1963@EarlOfEdgecombe those articles both make me mad. I don't have kids, but it's never made sense to me that there are well funded schools and barely funded schools, schools with every imaginable resource and schools with none. Every school should provide an excellent education and every child can have access to whatever they need to succeed. But it's also obvious why some politicians want to keep resources from lower income and non white schools. Disgusting.
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