ueckueck, to random German
@ueckueck@dresden.network avatar

ist mMn immer noch der beste Messenger :xmpp:

(Ich mach mal lieber hier fix zu und lass mich morgen früh überraschen, wie die Reaktionen sind^^')

strypey, to random

about the Join Jabber collective:

https://joinjabber.org/about/goals/

Their aim is to make the federation of chat servers using the XMPP protocol accessible to more people, and improve across the whole network.

al1r4d, to random
@al1r4d@pegelinux.top avatar

I thought many free software brothers used XMPP, like Mastodon. But the reality is not. XMPP channels are very quiet.

x, to random Polish
@x@0x3c.pl avatar

Napisałem o tym, dlaczego uważam, że Jabber to słaby komunikator.

https://www.adamski.gdn/artykuly/jabber-to-slaby-komunikator.html

publicvoit, (edited ) to random
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

Another argument for using proven encrypted messengers and proper verify used keys:

Encrypted traffic interception on Hetzner and Linode targeting the largest Russian () messaging service
https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/

nielso, to linux German
@nielso@digitalcourage.social avatar

verliert Nachrichten im Verlauf.

Wie perfekt waren doch im Vergleich da die / Clients für / .

rasterweb, to fediverse
@rasterweb@mastodon.social avatar

"There is no ownership if you don’t know you own something and can’t tell when the thing you didn’t know you owned was taken way."

➡️ https://larrysalibra.com/the-death-of-jabber/

crazy_pony, to random
@crazy_pony@rubber.social avatar

weiß jemand von euch Hintergründe was sich bei .de verändert? Auf der Webseite steht etwas von einer Übernahme und neuen Wegen

Mir ist aufgefallen daß ich dort neuerdings keine Bilder mehr hochladen/versenden kann

Eventuell Tipps für andere Provider zu denen ich perspektivisch wechseln könnte?

shakil_tcs, to opensource
@shakil_tcs@mstdn.starnix.network avatar

This is a request to all FOSS projects who only use matrix for communicating with the community.

Please consider bridging your rooms with IRC or XMPP.
India has banned Element, the most widely used Matrix client. I know it's just a client, but to be safe it's wiser to stay away from matrix for a while. So please help us in this regard.

blake, to emacs

What would it take, in practical terms, to get XMPP+OMEMO in jabber.el? 🤔 https://github.com/legoscia/emacs-jabber/issues/31

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

at

Today we started with the lounge in building K, level 2 - come and get !

:xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp:

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-at-fosdem-2024/

qwazix, to random
@qwazix@bananachips.club avatar

I'm always amused by the lightweightness of . I'm in the metro with virtually no signal, http can't even transfer headers and times out and I can hold a regular conversation over .

blake, to random

I need a server to test Spades with so I'm about to set up the server for blakes.dev (and blakeslabs.com). I'd like to use Metronome but I'm not sure if or how well it works with Docker¹. Prosody doesn't support MIX (a must for me) and it's also old, crusty, and you know, replaced by Metronome. So now I'm looking at Ejabberd² which doesn't seem to have a community modules system so I don't think I can (easily) extend features onto it, like MIX-MUC, the way Prosody (and Metronome) could. I believe there's also Openfire which I've seen is also behind on features (it doesn't support XEP-0050 Blocking Command?).

I'm probably going to set up Ejabberd but some advice would be appreciated.

¹ I'm using Docker to manage all my shit, like how most of us nerds use Kubernetes. Isn't K8s used for multiple-server servers? I'm only running one VPS, so it's not that useful for me.
² They said they were adding Matrix support some time back. That would be very useful to me. I don't see any mention of it in the docs or even the source code though.

xmpp, (edited ) to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

25 years ago Jeremie Miller made an announcement of what would become the initiation, development and propagation of the protocol until today!

Join the journey!

https://slashdot.org/story/99/01/04/1621211/open-real-time-messaging-system

Happy birthday,
XMPP!

:xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp:

lukaso666, to Matrix Polish
@lukaso666@chaos.social avatar

KOLEKTYW APARATURA ⚗️

⚡ połącz się z nami via XMPP!

wielu z nas używa i jednocześnie, doceniając oba protokoły.
chcąc pogadać z nami w naszym głównym pokoju (noclegownia💤) z poziomu XMPP, wybierz w swoim kliencie opcję: "Dołącz do kanału publicznego" i w polu adresu wpisz:

#matrix.org@matrix.org

wyślij kilka testowych wiadomości - maksymalnie w 1-3 minuty połączy cię z pokojem 😎 :yayblob:

badrihippo, to random
@badrihippo@fosstodon.org avatar

Does need a more public-friendly term? People wouldn't understand email either, if you told them "please contact me through SMTP"

Yes we have , but that's not very self-explanatory. Maybe we need a more descriptive term like: e-chat?

schluff, to random
@schluff@norden.social avatar

Oh, great, Jabber clients seem to support all the "modern" extensions now.
I would've needed this ten years ago.

Anyway, I installed Gajim and created a new account, in case any of my contacts might ever want to use it. :blobcatgooglyshrug:

karson777, to random
@karson777@mstdn.starnix.network avatar

if the fedi has some good xmpp / jabber group chats let me know

i like the technology but don't know anyone who uses it :sadlinux:​

#xmpp #jabber #gajim #conversations #omemo

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar
xmpp, (edited ) to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

XMPP Summit 26

Continuing after the lunch break. Before, we had fruitful discussions about "next-gen" XMPP, -Interoperability and !

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-summit-26/


nanoelquant, to android
@nanoelquant@c.im avatar

Just for discussion. I don't think that #XMPP / #Jabber was killed by big corporations and/or embrace-extend-exstinguish stuff, despite some harm could probably be.

First of all, it wasn't killed. It exists very well, but people rarely use it. I would try to outline a few reasons which could contribute.

  1. The "original" XMPP does not meet any modern requirements. People expect stability in mobile networks and other unstable internet, synchronization over devices and multimedia. All this was introduced only by later XEPs and is barely supported. I can recall only #Gajim on #desktop and #Conversations on #Android among the clients supporting Stream Management + Message Carbons + Message Archive Management + Receipts + HTTP Upload (about Jingle - I wonder if it ever worked at all). Moreover, when you try to adapt it for your needs, you can easily end up as a troubleshooting admin - some things just work wrong or occasionally.

(To be continued)

stefano, to Matrix
@stefano@bsd.cafe avatar

A few months ago, I persuaded a client to abandon an external cloud system and use Nextcloud on their own server instead. Powered by FreeBSD and ZFS, it has already demonstrated its strengths on a couple of occasions (such as in the case of a snapshot rollback). This morning, they expressed the desire to abandon the various WhatsApp groups they use for coordination and to use a solution "all on their servers." I was inspired and quickly installed both an ejabberd and a Matrix server (Synapse) - which they will probably prefer, according to the latest news they sent me - on two FreeBSD jails.

Today, we have the awareness and experience of what it means to give our data to large companies, completely losing control over it. We have the tools, so why not use them?
And I'm really happy when someone like them, thanks to their willingness to try "new" solutions, realizes the alternatives to the colorful, advertised, warmly recommended (by salespeople) "proprietary" solutions.

m0bi13, to Matrix Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

W nowym dużym wydaniu eJabberD 24.02 udostępniono możliwość logowania do serwerów Matrix. Tak oto nieco starszy świat otwartej zdecentralizowanej komunikacji spotyka się z tym młodszym:

"🌐 Matrix Unleashed: Wyobraź sobie płynne łączenie się z serwerami Matrix – teraz jest to możliwe! otwiera nowe możliwości w komunikacji międzyplatformowej, wspierając bardziej połączony świat wiadomości. Mamy jeszcze trochę do nadrobienia i w tym celu czekamy na Twoją opinię."

P.S. Ciekawostka: plugin LiveChat dla PeerTube to również serwer XMPP, stąd jego ogromne możliwości integracji z "wszystkim" :)

Źródło [EN]:
https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-24-02/

christian, to random
@christian@suma-ev.social avatar

I used to think that are for the illiterate.

Then I got addicted to them in Signal and Matrix.

Now I can't wait for clients to implement them. Why is this still experimental after 5 years, @larma ?
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html

debacle, to debian
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

If you are curious and courageous, and run testing or unstable, you might like to try the latest snapshot of by @gajim. It features message replies and message reactions.

Expect bugs! This is not a release version, but a snapshot. It's called "experimental" for a reason.

echo "deb https​://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list

sudo apt update

sudo apt install -t experimental gajim

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