nono2357, to MandelaEffect
itnewsbot, to medical

HP sued (again) for blocking third-party ink from printers, accused of monopoly - Enlarge (credit: HP)

HP has used its "Dynamic Security" firmwa... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1994620

mrundkvist, to ubuntu Swedish
@mrundkvist@archaeo.social avatar

My wifi printer apparently changes its IP address quite often, and then my Ubuntu Linux installation loses track of it. It's really easy to fix though: I just reinstall the printer driver. In fact, it's so easy that WHY THE F*** DOESN'T UBUNTU DO THIS AUTOMATICALLY?!?!?

#ubuntu #linux #printers

itnewsbot, to microsoft

Microsoft releases downloadable tool to fix phantom HP printer installations - Enlarge / The HP LaserJet M106w is one of the printer models that is my... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1991945

SoniEx2, to opensource
@SoniEx2@chaos.social avatar

how hard would it be to take a standard off-the-shelf printer and replace its controller board?

it's not like you can put DRM on a motor. and let's be honest, sourcing the parts for a printer is the real hard part. programming it/figuring out how to drive it is hard, sure, but it's just firmware, anyone can download it off the internet.

you wouldn't buy printer parts. but you can buy a microcontroller and download firmware.

thoughts?

itnewsbot, to tech

HP misreads room, awkwardly brags about its “less hated” printers - Enlarge (credit: HP)

HP knows people have grown to hate printe... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1989448

fuomag9, to windows

Another moment

www.windowslatest.com/2023/12/04/windows-update-accidentally-
renames-all-printers-to-hp-m101-m106-on-windows-11-windows-10/

ifixcoinops, (edited ) to random
@ifixcoinops@retro.social avatar

Watching a mutual ask for printer recs and receive a chorus of tired tech folk going "Just get a Brother, they're fine" and man

MAN

Like this is actually kinda fascinating honestly, Brother is now the best printer brand, the one that every Computer Person recommends, and is it because their printers are good? Their printers are fine, they print, whatever, no, it's because everybody else's printers have gotten Innovated out the wazoo, every innovation making them way worse, until it's gotten to the point where I wouldn't have one in the house even if it were free, and meanwhile Brother's have remained consistently Fine I Guess, which now makes them the best printer manufacturer simply by virtue of them opting out of the Who Can Get Crappiest Fastest race

Brother have gotten to where they are now, by NOT innovating

EDIT 2023-11-27 2130 UTC: I muted this thread a while back because wew lad this got too big. I won't see your reply but the lurkers (and commentors) of Hacker News might.

johnlogic,
@johnlogic@sfba.social avatar

@codefolio @bluGill @ifixcoinops

Yeah, definitely stay away from ink spitters. They just don't provide good value compared to laser printers.

I once bought a perfectly acceptable brand new small laser printer for $50. To me, that was when the laser printer market hit it's peak.

That was a Samsung, and I had bought a few other Samsung laser printers (some introduced at $400 and dropped to $180). Unfortunately for consumers, HP bought Samsung's printer division and turned it into crap.

The last printer I considered buying was a Fuji-Xerox. That was for an employer that had an $800 all-in-one that was reaching end-of-life. For $3000, I could have assembled a unit that would have allowed the company to bring its outsourced document production in house and add OCR capability to scan hardcopy archives that were piling up. (They instead spent more to lease an older machine that took up more of the already-cramped office.)

thisismyglasgow, to glasgow
@thisismyglasgow@mastodon.scot avatar

Embedded in the pavement outside the Ramshorn Theatre on Ingram Street in Glasgow is this somewhat enigmatic flagstone. It's a reminder of a time when the neighbouring Ramshorn Cemetery was larger and marks the last resting place of Robert and Andrew Foulis, both of whom died in the 1770s.

Cont./

thisismyglasgow,
@thisismyglasgow@mastodon.scot avatar

The Foulis brothers not only ran one of Glasgow's first book shops (opened in 1741, some ten years before John Smith opened his), but also ran the much-respected Foulis Press and were printers for the University of Glasgow.

bryan_edward, to linux
ForeignSubstance, to random

Put me as on record saying HP printers are total garbage, and I deeply regret ever buying one.

Thinking seriously of just chucking it off the roof.

sgt1372,
@sgt1372@sfba.social avatar

@ForeignSubstance @VikingChieftain @Huck

IDK, I've only used HP printers for about 30 years now.

Set up/installation of HP printer has always been the simplest & easiest, even going back to the 80's and all of the HP printers I've owned have lasted a very long time. The current one I have is about 10 years old and still working fine.

The ink cartridge tie-in is a rip-off but what other choices do you have, if you're "old school" like me and still feel the need to print stuff? 🤷‍♂️

I thought about buying an Epson EcoTank on the theory that I'd save $ on ink but, after reading a lot of negative reviews about the line, I decided against it, at least until my current HP printer dies.

itnewsbot, to microsoft

Microsoft will stop accepting new third-party print drivers in Windows - Enlarge / One of Brother's compact laser printers. (credit: Amazon)

... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1967082

jasonnab, to random

Surely there are modern dot-matrix printers with USB connectivity and a PCL6 or similar simple driver that CUPS could use???

rewarp, (edited ) to linux

I own a HP LaserJet Pro M12a, and the most confounding thing about it is, outside of Ubuntu, it is seemingly unusable.

Windows? No drivers, not even a website for driver downloads.

openSUSE Tumbleweed using HPLIP? Doesn't exist.

Get the foo2zjs PPD file in a Debian package, seemingly the only place left in the universe to retrieve it? Printer refuses to work as if out of principle alone.

Ubuntu virtual machine with USB passthrough, it Just Works™️. The cursed thing is installed into its subsystems as if you had Miles O'Brien, the most important person in Starfleet history working on your machine.

It was faster downloading Ubuntu 23.04 and installing it as a virtual machine than trying to get it working natively.

itnewsbot, to Canon

Requiring ink to scan a document—yet another insult from the printer industry - Enlarge / Don't bother hitting the scan button if you're out of ink. ... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1960855

ampersine, to random
@ampersine@mastodon.online avatar

A judge has ruled that a class action suit against over its all-in-one can proceed. The printers obnoxiously disable their document scanning and fax-sending capabilities when the printer's ink is low, even though those features don't require ink.

https://themessenger.com/tech/class-action-lawsuit-hp-all-in-one-printers-wont-scan-or-fax-when-low-on-ink

cheeseblintzes, to showerthoughts

Why are printers such fickle mistresses? Why do we all have bad luck with printers?

Fred, to Futurology
@Fred@allthingstech.social avatar

I can still hear this in my nightmares.

My Dad used to print 20 page documents next to my bedroom door, while I was trying to go to sleep. It felt like it would take an hour.

mojezyce, to random

that's how fast can it go... I hate but I like it when people who never done anything with electronics, manage to fix their crap with cheap tools and a lot of patience.

We have here a Samsung printer which flashed the orange warning light while turning on and it shutdown again.
My friend decided to try and repair it and found this lil rocket.
He replaced it with a new capacitor and the printer was working again.

Good job 👍

james, to random

Internet, do ink tank based suffer from the same problems that cartridge based inkjet printers have? I.e they dry out and then waste half a cart cleaning themselves?

I assume the ink isn't DRM protected and I can use 3rd party ink just fine?

I need a new printer, and also want to experiment with dye-sublimation printing, but don't want a printer that won't work half the time.

Linux, to linux
@Linux@linuxrocks.online avatar

::: Ubuntu takes CUPS printing stack to a single handy Snap :ubuntu:

This concerns specifically the non-IPP-driverless printers.

"Snapping" apps like this are apparently good for LTS releases for continuity & stability - Snap packaging has lately matured in a rapid manner.

CUPS as Snap already available => https://snapcraft.io/cups

Listen all about it from Till Kamppeter - the OpenPrinting project leader
=> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-_aUNZMvko&t=10810s

@till

IAmDannyBoling, to random
@IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social avatar

DO NOT BUY HP PRINTERS!

I don't believe I've ever seen a more from a .

If you buy an and sign up for the optional HP Plus , you'll get a that will FORCE you to only new HP cartridges — for the life of your printer. And once that firmware update happens, there is no way to undo it.

DO NOT BUY HP PRINTERS!

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/25/23736811/hp-plus-printer-ink-drm-firmware-update-cant-cancel
HP has found an exciting new way to your printer

screenshot from the article "Here are a few choice quotes from the terms and conditions for HP’s ink service that I think you’ll appreciate (bolding mine): "You expressly allow HP to remotely change, patch, update or otherwise modify Your printer’s software, firmware or programming remotely, without notice to You, in order to provide the Service to You or to comply with applicable laws "Remote monitoring may include provision to HP of one or more of: page counts, types of documents printed (e.g., Word, PowerPoint, pdf, jpeg, etc.), types of devices that initiated print jobs, printer serial number, cartridge information (e.g. HP original cartridge status, and whether the cartridge was new or used at the time of its last insertion into the printer), and other similar types of metrics related to your Service as may be added by HP from time to time "You agree to maintain connectivity of Your Printer to the Internet and to not remove or disable any remote monitoring software or functionality on Your Printer."
screenshot from the article "If Your printer is not connected to the Internet, then the Subscription Cartridges (as defined in section d. below) will be disabled, and You will not be able to use them to print; however, You will continue to be charged for the Service as described in Section 7 (“Paying for Your Service”). In order to reactivate disabled cartridges, You will need to reconnect Your printer to the Internet and keep it connected "When Your Service is cancelled for any reason, HP will remotely disable the Subscription Cartridges and You will no longer be able to print with the Subscription Cartridges. In such a case, you will need to purchase a regular HP cartridge compatible with your printer, in order to continue printing "HP may increase or otherwise change the Service Plan Fee and Overage Fee, and add additional fees, for any Service Plan, or otherwise change or add Service Plans at any time in HP’s sole discretion with prior notice to You."

IAmDannyBoling,
@IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social avatar

to the story about HP's evil plot to and/or your if you don't follow their strict edicts — & also continue to their — even when you're not using it to !

CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT! 🥳

This is great news for anyone who now owns a plastic and glass electronic .

https://www.techspot.com/news/99817-hp-face-class-action-bricking-all-one-printers.html
will face a for all-in-one when the is low.

ORIGINAL STORY HERE:
https://mstdn.social/@IAmDannyBoling/110436802998398861

itnewsbot, to tech

HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands - Enlarge / HP sometimes bricks third-party ink and toner that's over 90 ... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1941600

ChronRevisited, to random

Computer Chronicles Revisited, Part 93 — The LaserWriter Plus, LaserJet II, and LaserLine 6

https://www.smoliva.blog/post/computer-chronicles-revisited-093-laserwriter-plus-laserjet-ii-laserline-6/

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