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djr

@djr@union.place

Resident Putney - economist, trade unionist, internationalist/traveller. former activist

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appassionato, to Israel
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According to a recent poll, majority of Israeli Jews support the removal of Palestinians from Gaza.

70-80 percent of Israeli Jews support the idea of finding somewhere else for Palestinians in Gaza to be removed.

Antony Loewenstein

@palestine

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@appassionato @palestine

That is . It is not quite but comes close. A lot of it happened in in the 1940s when millions were displaced - including who had survived the . During world war two did quite a lot of of and in particular.

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@appassionato @palestine

The allies meeting at in 1945 licensed of - the 'Benes decrees' - and of living east of the Oder/Neisse line. However in do not seem to have been affected.

inquiline, to random
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"there is a rule - and it is certainly not unique to Germany - that you don’t compare things to the Holocaust. There is a paradox: we imagine the Holocaust in great detail, but we conceive of it as fundamentally unimaginable. It is the kind of evil that we cannot comprehend. But anything that happens in the present is, by definition, imaginable."

Gessen on the Arendt Prize

https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2023-12/masha-gessen-rede-hannah-arendt-preis-english

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@inquiline Casual comparisons should be eschewed and it would be both tactful wise to set a rather high bar to avoid giving gratuitous offence. However a comparison with what happened to the people forty years before - in some cases at the hands of the same individuals as participated in the subsequently - would seem entirely appropriate.

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    @HelenG

    They are beginning to learn how to retreat. Worrying?

    jdmccafferty, to ireland
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    16 Dec 1687: d. William Petty, a founder of The Royal Society and a Cromwellian surveyor of the land of &

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    @jdmccafferty

    He (Petty) called "political arithmetic". Some might regard that as a better designation,

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    @HelenG @fkamiah17

    In which case there would be the exceptional circumstances where the putting up of a "white suit" independent candidate supported by opposition parties might make sense - as with against in in 1997.

    mattcaff, to Ohio
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    OMG, OMG, OMG

    https://www.brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/sherrod-brown-announces-first-step-expanding-amtrak-ohio

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    @mattcaff

    Well done!

    ChrisMayLA6, to random
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    The Parliament that the have been running since 2019 has the dubious record of being the only Govt. that has overseen a real-terms decline in household income in 70 years.

    The chart also may be of some concern to Labour supporters as it shows consistently on this measure the historically have delivered higher growth in loving standards than Labour... but of course, Labour had delivered much not covered (nor valued) in this data!

    [nb, length of Parlaiments is also an issue!]

    djr,
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    @ChrisMayLA6 It would not be particularly difficult to add what are now called "individual government services" to real household disposable income. These have been part of the System of National Accounts for at least thirty years and could be back cast to 1955 without too much difficulty. These would favour somewhat but probably not overwhelmingly!

    ryanhoulihan, to random
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    I know it fucking hurt for the BBC to hit publish on this and that makes it so much sweeter https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67484645?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

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    @ryanhoulihan

    That is why it was right for the to be accepted in the .

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    @ryanhoulihan

    Of course not but because the system had to be maintained as open and as tolerant as possible, however unpalatable this might be. There has to be caution and reluctance to set boundaries - which not at all the same as "free speech absolutism".

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    @ryanhoulihan
    From a server if you wish but not the entire system.

    djr, to london
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    Thus far the has reported that around one hundred "counterdemonstrators" have been arrested. No news of arrests on the main so presumably minimal thus far. Interesting!

    djr,
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    It appears that the final figure for arrests in yesterday was one hundred and twenty six. of these the vast majority appear to have been "counterdemonstrators". Nine police were injured presumably also mainly at the hands of the same people!

    fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
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    Covid Inquiry "Who's under the bus?" update:
    "Mark Sedwill identifies two cabinet ministers undermining Covid rules, following the Barnard Castle incident, by going off piste and freelancing to the media. Health Secretary Hancock and the Attorney General (Suella Braverman)"
    via Best for Britain

    djr,
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    @fkamiah17 The usual suspects ?

    wjmaggos, to Israel
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    Couldn't adopt a govt in line with the US federal system where states were Arab or Jewish or Christian etc and there was lots of autonomy, but also a constitution that ensured some rights for everyone and that made it hard for any group to dominate or get violent? Allow open Jewish immigration to the states that wanted it. Jerusalem could be like Washington DC in that it's not under any state, independent of any religion/ethnicity but ensured access to everyone.

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    @wjmaggos

    The Swiss Confederation has had most of those features since the middle of the nineteenth century so it can work!

    fkamiah17, to UKpolitics
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    I hate it when I have to agree with Tories.
    Nicholas Soames, Churchill's grandson, on LBC last night:
    "The government needs to proceed extremely carefully in this matter. Tens of millions of people died ... so that British people have the right and freedom to express their beliefs. You cannot just decide that this is not the case and put [him] under this kind of pressure. The gvt needs to be very careful to make sure they do not look as if they are playing politics."

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    @fkamiah17 Worth remembering that
    removed the whip from him in 2019 and that he called "Spode" the name of a comic fictional fascist leader. So has form!

    indianewswatch, to india
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    How Adani won a coal block as the sole bidder in a government ‘auction’

    In August 2022, the Adani Group won ownership of the Gondbahera Ujheni East coal block in central India, despite there being no other bidders in this so-called ‘auction’. The process is about to be rerun for another coal block in Madhya Pradesh for which Adani was the only bidder. These deposits of coal underlie swathes of forest that are the homelands of tribal indigenous peoples.

    https://www.adaniwatch.org/how_adani_won_a_coal_block_as_the_sole_bidder_in_a_government_auction

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    @indianewswatch Worth remembering that there will be state wide elections in later this month.

    indianewswatch, to Israel
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    Israeli far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

    In an interview with Radio Kol Berama, Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu also voices his objection to allowing any humanitarian aid into Gaza, saying “we wouldn’t hand the Nazis humanitarian aid,” and charging that “there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/

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    @indianewswatch

    Apparently has since been suspended. An example of the power of sunlight to have an antiseptic effect.

    QasimRashid, to random
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    Hamas is not in the West Bank. Hamas has never been in the West Bank. It is Palestinian land occupied by Israeli settlers and the Israeli military.

    Yet, since October 7 alone, the IDF & Settlers have killed at least 125 Palestinians, the US Govt knows this, and has offered nothing more than "strong urging" to stop evicting and killing innocent civilians.

    Where is the accountability??

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    @QasimRashid

    Very important not to forget the West Bank - particularly the South Hebron hills where villages are being targeted for .

    fkamiah17, to random
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    If you think you've heard the worst possible take on Palestine, hold on to your hats.

    Telegraph: "For a better tomorrow, Palestinians need to forget historical grievances
    Many peoples have tales of tragedy and displacement, but success comes when you are able to move on"

    https://archive.ph/iGIGL

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    @fkamiah17

    Hardly relevant when the same processes appear to be continuing and/or imminent!

    codinghorror, to random

    Imagine you are given the opportunity to design an ideal society. You can structure it any way you want. Now, repeat the experiment, but this time there are two things to keep in mind: 1) after setting up the system, you will be reborn into the world you designed with no memory of having designed it, and 2) you will be randomly assigned a gender, race, age, wealth, intelligence, and ability level. This thought experiment was created by philosopher John Rawls (1921-2002).

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    @codinghorror

    The result would be what is known as "Rawlsian justice", When I was younger I used to imagine a future built on that together with "Feasible Socialism".

    Sherifazuhur, to palestine
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    Rabbi David Mivasair: A grave and harrowing crisis is unfolding in the South Hebron Hills, demanding the utmost urgency and gravity. Settlers, masquerading as a military force, have launched a barbaric assault on Susyiah village. /1

    They have subjected the inhabitants, including innocent children, to brutal and violent attacks. These aggressors have issued a menacing ultimatum: if the villagers do not vacate within 24 hours, they vow to return and perpetrate murder. 2/ @israel @palestine

    https://twitter.com/mivasair/status/1718491032663523354?s=12&t=eD3vyqoViygCRmPFUgTv-w

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    @Sherifazuhur @israel @palestine

    Some people have chosen to interpret the reference by to a "second war of independence" in the way I warned they might - namely as a license to practice ! I fear they will not be the last.

    djr, to random
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    I have to warn anyone who posts/toots that it tends to be unsafe to make any reference to . It appears that he may have acquired an outsize amount of influence within the decision making and disciplinary processes of the It is best to assume that any adverse comments about him or any of the causes he espouses may expose one to complaints, investigation and even sanctions.

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    @glowrocks

    was mentioned casually - not by me - in a toot today. He and/or those who appear to be associated with him have a reputation for searching social media accounts of anyone in or close to the . Official complaints, formal investigations (often accompanied by lengthy suspension ) have been known to follow - sometimes culminating in sanctions which can include expulsion. I doubt you are unsafe but I may well be.

    djr, to random
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    For exactly the same reason as I find myself justifying Muslim fears of ethnic cleansing in the light of what has happened in Bosnia and Rakhine and why I am being taken to task currently for suggesting that a second Nakba is a more immediate risk than a second holocaust.

    I am also aware that the use of the word genocide can incur penalties in some jurisdictions and within some political organisations.

    djr,
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    I should also refer to the use of coded language which is intended to be understood only by those who may decide to act on it. One example might be the description by of the current conflict as a "second war of independence". Given that the first war of independence was associated with the and included extensive this may well be interpreted as encouragement of renewed - albeit on a basis that was informal and thus readily deniable.

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