Hmmm is #discourse (the software) a popular/desirable thing?
There's a #wordpress plugin for it and I've been thinking of adding a proper #Forum to https://sirtaptap.com but the plugin hasn't been updated in 9 months and one of their 2 'see it in action' example sites no longer uses it (or has comments at all)
I do like that it's got a self-hosting thing, and BBPress...I just didn't like the look of but it can probably be adjusted.
"Deficiencies of power in the present are compensated with claims of grandeur and power in the future. This is one of the many reasons why the stronger power usually has to take the first step. Resolving things requires setting most of those narratives and aspirations to the side to arrive at some way to live together in the present."
Big welcome to @Discourse for joining the Fediverse!
Discourse is what we use for Fedora Discussion, our forum space for long-form async communication. It enables us to have in-depth conversations with important moderation tools. Also, it provides an alternative to our mailing lists as a way of collaborating on Fedora in a way that may be more accessible to newcomers. :)
Les deux solutions qui marchent le mieux dans ce que je connais c'est https://monnaie-libre.fr/#agenda qui utilise #discourse en backend. Tout le monde peut publier des événements géolocalisés et datés, en intégrant un système de conversation.
@veloren I've used Mattermost and Discourse a lot myself.
Mattermost makes sense when you want to use it like Slack - the thing it's a clone of. It's best used when you have little teams/subgroups of people tackling certain medium- to long-persisting areas of development or work, which are organized into "channels". Channels are sort of like "mega-threads." Each of these channels/mega-threads has a system of permissions on it as to who's allowed in, "pinned" posts, etc. The included "Boards" (kanban board feature) is additionally like Trello - great for making todo lists and tracking tasks, with comments, etc.
Discourse makes sense when it's a bunch of disjoint, random little questions about anything and everything (you know, "threads"), and there isn't any sense of coordinated teamwork.
Of the two, I prefer #Mattermost team server, because it's more lightweight (written in #Go, will run even on a #RaspberryPi 4), and has a decent #Android App with push notifications. #Discourse has a less likeable mobile experience, IMHO.
Mattermost is for people who need to get a larger project (comprised of many sub-projects) done. Discourse is just for bantering forever on some broad, wide-open area of discussion, never converging on anything.
Die Diskussionsplattform zum Blog - basierend auf Discourse - ist nun genau ein Jahr alt. Wer sich über die Themen des Blogs austauschen möchte, ist hier genau richtig. 👇
Fuer alle, die euch sagen wollen, dass #Mastodon gescheitert und/oder eine Geisterstadt sei.... dies sind die Interaktionen und Benachrichtigungen der letzten 21h auf meinem Account.
Fuer mich der Beweis dafuer, dass man nicht immer da sein muss, wo der vermeintliche #Zeitgeist ist!
Schoen, dass ihr hier seid, auch wenn es ja so wahnsinnig kompliziert ist diese Plattform zu nutzen 😁
@pallenberg@buckaroo Ich bin ab und zu im OpenStreetMap-Forum. Das basiert auf #Discourse und ist eine lebendige Community, die genau ihren Zweck erfüllt. Aber es hat keine 100 Mio User. Also sollte man es lieber schließen.
I feel a lot of people look back at Gamergate and just think "gamers are easy to radicalize" as the only take-away, but if you look deeply I think a much more importantly lesson is there to learn:
It's easy to take a valid problem, attribute the wrong source, and drive people to a malicious solution.
I'm so dreadfully sorry but I'll need at least one more post for this so 1/2?🧵
If you look at Wikipedia's list of forum software, it's all ancient except discourse, and discourse seems unlikely to ever be something great for users
Its performance is famously terrible. People often point out how unusable it is unless you have a fast phone and the founder's response to this has been to rant about how Qualcomm sucks and need to make faster processors
@jernej__s@danluu we could spend more time and energy on getting on Wikipedia (and maybe we should!), but it left such a sour taste in my mouth that I just haven't wanted to consider it for the past ~8-9 years.
#Discourse filled a niche at a good time. It got endorsement from high profile devs and got cool funding, lots of buzz, etc. All the power to them.
A year or two later we just decided to build a good product and let it speak for itself. What's more #foss than that LOL
I dislike a few aspects of the #Discourse forum #UX, especially the relentless gamification of banal user actions ("Congratulations, you just made your first poop") and its approach to categories.
I have to admit, though, that it also gets many things right, which you only really notice if you spend a lot of time with a Discourse forum. The read/post experience is quite relaxing, and the UX for keeping up with new new posts, notifications, etc. seems solid.
@eloquence after a while the annoying badges tail off but it would be nice to be able to disable this at sign up as it is a pain in each new forum when you've been using it for almost a decade.
Another annoyance is still flagging posts as unread when it's a reply from someone you set to ignore. Handling in that area is pretty poor actually.
Otherwise it is fantastic, so I'd still choose #Discourse forum softwares over anything else.
@gael@telegram@signalapp@matrix Useful easy to follow discussions are difficult without threads/topics like #discourse forums or even email threads. I heard #Matrix or #Element supports or will support threads but haven't encountered them in any groups yet.
Today's question for a resilient #Fediverse is whether various different initiatives are willing to collaborate and cross-pollinate, while keeping their independence.
There's great opportunity to increase the cohesion of the #GrassrootsFedi#ActivityPub developer community and creating strong joins: