tchambers, (edited ) to RedditMigration

Signs of the in action: Three of the top 6 fastest growing servers are not only not Mastodon.social but they are not even microblogging servers - but rather are servers.

That is only seriously good for the entire Fedi infrastructure. Diversity is strength.

@fediversereport @fediversenews @fediverseobserver

blake, to kbin

I really think and will and should work really well together.

For the memes. and I mean that!

Imagine following a meme subreddit -- directly! -- from your Instagram account, or an Instagram meme page -- directly! -- from Reddit, and not by a reposter account.

Now with the Fediverse (and the ), this is reality.

Long live the Fediverse, and long live the Threadiverse!

hariette, (edited ) to kbin

In one day got 250+ users awaiting the upcoming private beta! Equally split between and 🍎 🤖

Love seeing the community so active in bettering the ecosystem!

Aiming for the first wave of testers in one week. I want y’all shaping this ASAP.

Join the discord! https://discord.gg/mqcQuERsTW

rysiek, (edited ) to random
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

Also, whoever came up with the term "", come forward, I would like to shake your hand. :blobcat:

rysiek, to random
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

The is growing fast!

Since start of June, Lemmy went from ~1000 (as reported on the-federation.info) to ~22k monthly active accounts:
https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Kbin went from ~200 (not a typo, two hundred), to ~31k monthly active accounts:
https://the-federation.info/platform/184

I would risk a hot-take that Threadiverse today is where Fediverse was in April 2022: some infra exist, some long-established communities are there, and there is now sudden popular interest, stress-testing the network.

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

The number of new people with accounts is less important, I feel.

What is more important now is how many new instances spring up to spread the load? How many people commit to being moderators and otherwise tending to their communities' needs?

is being stress-tested.

But it also has a better support network in the wider .

For example, experienced fedi admins are deploying new Lemmy and Kbin instances. Other projects help out too, for example:
https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110548633829056225

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

But what I find the most interesting and potentially game-changing, is that this is probably not just a move of people only using a given platform.

I am going to wager a bet a lot of long-term volunteer are joining the . :blobcathappy:

This means that there are potentially a lot of new people with the experience and willingness to perform perhaps the most demanding and the most thankless of tasks: community moderation.

That's super-important. That excites me. 👀

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

I say this is "April'22" for because this is its first real stress-test.

There's going to be a lot of things that break (kbin.social was off-federation for days), a lot of things that people find less than great.

That's okay.

Once the 🌊 passes, we can take stock and build resilience for the future.

There might be another big wave (maybe around Reddit IPO). There might not. Either way "threadi" will be ready for more sustainable growth.

jdp23,

@rysiek good thread! For the itself I think it was maybe closer to April 2017 than 2022 - with kbin in the nascent role of Mastodon. One big positive difference is the broader fediverse is much farther along so experienced admins popped up instances like blahaj.lemmy.zone, lemmy.world, fedia.io that could help absorb the influx. Totally agreed though on taking stock and building on it!

liaizon, to kbin
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

There is a new app in progress by @hariette with the unfinalized name Kmoon. They are planning support as well! The is stronger with the growth of the ecosystem

cendawanita, (edited ) to RedditMigration

Ok so thanks to the i set up a account myself - the might include the but while following communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.

I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.

If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.

Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.

cendawanita, (edited ) to magASEAN in MagASEAN & getting around the threadi/fediverse
cendawanita avatar

Mirror from my main:

the might include the but while following communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.

I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.

If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.

Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.

Other things that may need saying:

  • vanilla Masto doesn't render HTML or Markdown formatting so fedi accounts on that protocol will always see plain text versions. Some Masto forks will honour formatting, while most other fedi protocols have no issues rendering (and these days you will likely be interacting accounts coming from the Calckey/Misskey/Akkoma/Pleroma/WriteFreely protocols anyway, or they'll be using clients that can render formatting)

  • microblog will scrape fedi content that has the tag it's looking for, but there's a tag primacy delimiter. I can't find it in the documentation but i know it will look for the first tag in the post for sure. This is going to impact auto discoverability by microblog route as many posts come with multiple hashtags. The fedi protocols optimized for microblogging like masto has no such tag primacy rule which is why a frequent advice is to follow hashtags.

  • some non-masto fedi protocols, like kbin, can write posts with the Title attribute. That means if you write such a post and tag this magazine, it will also be posted/sent directly to the Thread section. Others can also post directly to magazines (and Lemmy communities) but the Post-status of the content will automatically send it to the Microblog section.

rysiek, (edited ) to random
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

A few days ago I made some predictions about the and :
https://szmer.info/post/349217

tl;dr:

  • soon media will discover Lemmy exists
  • they will miss Kbin exists
  • once they eventually notice it, they will be befuddled about it; Kbin will get called a "fork" of Lemmy at some point.
  • more Threadiverse instances will start turning off registrations to deal with the deluge of people joining
  • media will call this "elitist" (as opposed to BlueSky or ClubHouse being…

🧵

rysiek, (edited )
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

A lot of media cannot think in any other terms than VC-funded startups chasing hockey-stick growth, and proclaiming them failed the moment that growth slows down.

in general, and in particular, are not VC-funded startups. They don't need that hockey-stick growth.

We're here to build resilient, equitable, safe communities, not to maximize shareholder value. Don't get distracted or disheartened because some people don't get that.

Some do:
https://doctorow.medium.com/of-course-mastodon-lost-users-c48ef8102891

🧵/end

pixelcats, to kpop
@pixelcats@apobangpo.space avatar

Well this is exciting! Federation with Kbin.social seems to be working nicely now. I can see all the posts from here on Mastodon.

I'm at @PixelCats if you wanna follow me over there .. and don't forget to come and try out this new space with us dear !

https://apobangpo.website/2023/06/experiments-in-the-fediverse/

jdp23, to fediverse

For those tracking the ( and ): beehaw.org has defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Both have open registration and accounts have been causing problems on beehaw. Here’s the announcement https://beehaw.org/post/567170

It sounds like the right call to me, at least for now. I get it why everybody wants to have open registration to
make it easy for people migrating from Reddit… but without good mod tools, it’s a recipe for trolling.

@fediversenews

reiver, to RedditMigration
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shawnhooper, to random
@shawnhooper@fosstodon.org avatar

KBin being accused of using code from Postmill without including their copyright notice.

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/196

hariette, to kbin

My app is now pulling data from kbin.social!

Took all day but it's looking good and should scale for a beta test. Up next:

  • Login page
  • Comment page
  • Post actions

Also, built in mind w support for instances too ⚙️

For now calling the app Kmoon 👍🌕

image/png

tchambers,

@hariette

Very cool: Apps are coming!

Frankly Hariette: that might be a good name for the App...

shawnhooper, to kbin
@shawnhooper@fosstodon.org avatar

Has anyone got Kbin working locally on MacOS w/ Docker? Any tips?

maegul, to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

New instance and community explorer (seems to be clearly better than the one of feddit.de):

https://lemmyverse.net/

@fediverse @fediversenews

tchambers,

@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews

Would love to see this evolve into a Explorer and cover too. And others that evolve.

tchambers, to random

@pluralistic got it right in Feb:

"...new services always experience 'scalloped' growth. That’s where an outside event — a positive narrative about the new service, or a catastrophe affecting the old one — drives a surge of new users.
Some...try the new service, decide it’s not worth it, and leave — but not all of them. Each event triggers a high tide of new signups, but the low tide that follows is still higher than the old ...Surge after surge, the number of users steadily builds."

🧵 1 of N

tchambers,

@koherecoWatchdog @pluralistic

Well: current research is showing that even as larger servers grow, smaller ones are growing FASTER cumulatively so at least thus far decentralization is working in the Fedi as far as microbloging. And the growth now in and other servers I'd think has potential to make that even greater.

maegul, to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

If there isn’t much cross-platform engagement between the #threadiverse and #mastodon, and Reddit migrants leave because of insufficient activity … is this a failure of sorts of the #fediverse ?

I’m leaning yes. If cross-platform activity is essentially irrelevant but more of a minor awkward perk at times then the fediverse doesn’t exist (yet) at the level of being a social media platform or space.

Instead, it’s a tool for FOSS platforms to scale through decentralisation.

@fediversenews

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@jdp23 @mastodonmigration @fediversenews

Yes, for sure, "failure" is a strong word ... though some might have a perspective and ambition against which it might not be insane to speak it.

Excellent point about the infrastructural expertise ... seeing mastodon admins put up instances has been awesome and likely vital!!

tchambers, to RedditMigration

This from @mmasnick gets it exactly right:

"Reddit is discovering the same thing that Twitter is also discovering: when you build a service where the value is all the free content that users provide, you’re going to run into some problems when you suddenly start acting like you 'own' all that, and you feel the need to put up paywalls for access.... at some point those users are going to realize they have the power to go elsewhere."

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/13/reddit-blackout-crashes-the-site-as-reddit-users-realize-theyre-in-the-power-position/

tchambers,

@Kubi @mmasnick @_Jordan

I'd add: "so far."

YMMV but many see the of apps growing fast to replicate that and maybe more.

boud, to technology in Reddit Wave and the Threadiverse
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@melmi @FallGuy217

"" - nice term. :)

On the technical side: I'm doing this toot from the Mastodon side. I used

https://MYINSTANCE/authorize_interaction?uri=LEMMYCOMMENTURL

where MYINSTANCE is the instance I'm on (https://framapiaf.org) and LEMMYCOMMENTURL is the comment I chose to reply to (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/90402).

If I understand federation correctly, my reply should/could turn up on the lemmy instances involved in the thread - even though I don't have a lemmy account.

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