tchambers

@tchambers@indieweb.social

Technologist, writer, admin of indieweb.social. Fascinated by how new politics impacts technology and vice versa. #fedi22 #indieweb #fediverse

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tchambers, to fediverse

Jimmy Wales announces a new Reddit-like, Twitter-like offering in the works. And later in the thread says they will have support in the works post-launch.

https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/1668266400723488769

tchambers, (edited ) to Russia

Whatever is going on right now in , I do note this: is now useless at tracking this. Junk accounts everywhere, no verified accounts, swarms of sketchy bluechecks.

The ONE thing that place was good at was breaking global news. But not now.

See everyone here tonight.

dangillmor, to random
@dangillmor@mastodon.social avatar

This is important reading. What Google did to the open XMPP messaging protocol -- adopting and then poisoning it -- is an object lesson as the fediverse ponders Facebook/Meta entry.

I'm still leery of pre-emptively blocking Meta here, but we need to be absolutely clear on what's at risk -- and ready to instantly respond if they try to take over.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

tchambers,

@dangillmor Hi Dan: see what I think is a strategy that can hold and work, and isn't about pre-emptive blocking.

https://www.timothychambers.net/2023/06/23/project-and-the.html

dansup, to kbin
@dansup@mastodon.social avatar

Decided I'm going to go ahead with my Kbin mobile app.

Yeah I know i have a lot on the go, but I use Apollo daily, and want a solid Apollo like experience for Kbin.

I'm willing to hand over the project to Kbin if they want, and would love to work closely with the developer on this if possible.

Will be starting this next week, after my camping trip! It will be open source from the start, and contributors will be gladly welcomed!

tchambers,

@dansup Before diving into this project you might look at iOS app for Kbin…. Very promising and about to go private beta: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16b0xRu_4lr0nr24CaHjKzxHZCjAgOpvnPqe8-qmJ-3w/edit

cc: @hariette

tchambers, (edited ) to RedditMigration
tchambers, (edited ) to fediverse

Hi @evan @cwebber@pfefferle
Timely question: Does anyone know the status of a formal or informal building out an test suite, akin to the one used to test http://webmention.rocks but for Acitivity pub.

I know the activitypub.rocks effort ended & I see this one that seemed to evolve from that but has been derelict for a while.

Is there any other effort active?

https://github.com/go-fed/testsuite

and: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/unofficial-test-suite-go-fed-testsuite/805

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2023Mar/0215.html

tchambers, to activitypubtestsuite

@activitypubtestsuite - question for the group: even if we were not to use it’s codebase, is there value in getting the old ActivityPub.rocks test suite live again? Just to see the old test in action?

tchambers,

@steve @rmdes @activitypubtestsuite

Yeah any choice we make on test suite version 2.0 should consider using languages and tech easy to maintain and with a wide developer base….

tchambers, (edited )

@rmdes @steve @activitypubtestsuite

Seems like the answer is “some things in the work in a couple places…”

Also do set up your account here - and I’m sure folks will support this work along with me: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/faq

shoq, to random
@shoq@mastodon.social avatar

Of all the criticisms out there about Mastodon, some deserved, some not, the most valid of them is the lack of search. It’s such a crappy decision and worse experience, with daily impact, I sometimes feel foolish defending the entire platform. That I have to still search the hellsite for news, after nearly a year here is inexcusable. And please don’t waste my time telling me about . I’m aware. They were designed to be used within searches, not replace them.

tchambers,

@tokyo_0 @jotokla @hughster @shoq

If it’s search only used public posts, then I see nothing worth blocking over, especially as many other Fediverse solutions will be offering full text search also. Not sure why any full text search maybe with an opt out per user account isn’t a net positive.

tchambers,

@hughster @jotokla @shoq

There used to be webtools for checking federation, peering, etc for any Fediverse server. Need to see if any still live.

tchambers, to kbin

A great resource for finding those SubReddits now migrated over to the Threadiverse... ( and )....

https://www.quippd.com/writing/2023/06/15/unofficial-subreddit-migration-list-lemmy-kbin-etc.html

tchambers, to random

Agreed:

"Lemmy and Kbin also represent a different way of interacting with the fediverse. Microblogging on Mastodon, photo sharing on Pixelfed and tracking books on Bookwyrm are all centred around people. You follow individuals you find interesting, and read the content they share. The threadiverse instead is framed around topics and communities...Overall, the sudden and rapid rise of Lemmy and Kbin is changing the structure and culture of the fediverse."

https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-and-kbin/

tchambers,

@CynAq I took at as: forums have been around for a while on the Fedi but in a far, far lower key. After the 2.7 million active users of these now exist. And it is a somewhat new "culture" and structure of users on the Fedi than the past predominant ones who focuesd around text, photo and video microblogging.

tchambers,

@DoctorSynth you might also look at http//www.spreadmastodon.org under “Enhance”….

stux, to random
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

Oh just notice mstdn.social is now home to 199,991 awesome lovely people :blobcathearts:
https://fedidb.org/network/instance/mstdn.social

tchambers,

@stux Congrats on building that community out well and being a good and safe place for their social home.

laurenshof, to random

I just clicked on a lemmy link (accessed via 3rd party client) to a pixelfed video which was a reupload of a tiktok which was a screenclip of a video podcast

tchambers,

@laurenshof "The Future that Fedi Citizens Want."

ontheweb, to random

@tchambers are you running by @rolle

tchambers,

@ontheweb @rolle We are. Still on an extended trail and seeing what our users think after getting used to it.

tchambers, (edited ) to random

Rather than making another 10-post-long thread 🧵 on the latest things , I had mercy on everyone & just wrote 1 blog post…

(TLdr: the sky isn't falling, we have always been a diverse set of cultures and moderation standards, we will work it out on both fronts, but a lot is changing on all fronts & more will. And through it all we have all we need to protect our people.) Open to any thoughts, pushback, etc….

https://www.timothychambers.net/2023/06/25/project-the-fediverse.html

@spreadmastodon @fediverseobserver @fediversenews

tchambers, (edited ) to activitypubtestsuite

FYI, @activitypubtestsuite - while we work to bring ActivityPubTest Suite 1.0 back to life - as a stop-gap measure- it looks like @dansup is working on this which feels very promising for a new tool…or tools. https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/p/561391/Really-excited-for-the-activityPub-developer-tools-I-ve-been-working

mariusor, to fediverse
@mariusor@metalhead.club avatar

Oh man, I forgot the rush of endorphins that comes from fixing a really longstanding bug.

, the generic service, had a heisenbug for about 6 months where integration tests for federated dispatch would randomly (and rarely when debugging) failed. I tried a couple of times to reproduce it, but it wasn't that big of a deal and it mostly went fine, so I didn't want to dedicate too much time to it.
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tchambers,

@mariusor Marius: wanted to put this into your field of view…a number of us working on an ActivityPub test suite… would love your perspective on what would be useful there. The Frendica group can be followed here @activitypubtestsuite

tchambers,

@mariusor @activitypubtestsuite

Right now, early days, it is through that mastodon-compatible group above. 👆 …. Follow it and any messages mentioning it reflect to you and over 110 developers on it.

First goal: resuscitation of OLD test.ActivityPub.rocks suite… second goal, rebuild one in sustainable code, up to date to latest needs….

tchambers, to fediverse

@activitypubblueskybridge - as we look to rebuild the old test suite, and the compatibility report, look at the old one cached here in the WaybackMachine: https://web.archive.org/web/20221031085815/https://test.activitypub.dev/

tchambers,

@rmdes @activitypubblueskybridge

Adding that to the google doc…

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