chris, to TeslaMotors
@chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca avatar

I have always been suspicious that the "EVs are too expensive" notion is a plant by Fossil Fuel companies and some car manufacturers to shift the blame to consumers for not transitioning to EVs.

So here's a comparison of the most popular vehicles in Canada in 2022 vs. most popular EVs in Canada in 2024.
https://driving.ca/column/driving-by-numbers/10-best-selling-vehicles-canada-2022
https://driving.ca/column/driving-by-numbers/10-best-selling-electric-vehicles-canada-2023

(All prices are 2024 models in Canadian $)

10: Hyundai Elantra: $21,999 v Audi Q4 e-tron: $63,400
9: Hyundai Kona: $25,999 v Mustang Mach-E: $57,690
8: Honda Civic: $28,765 v Kia Niro EV: $48,544
7: Honda CR-V: $37,261 v Toyota bZ4x: $48,042
6: Toyota Corolla: $26,372 v Hyundai Ioniq 5: $54,999
5: GMC Sierra: $48,931 v Hyundai Kona Electric: $46,399
4: Chevy Silverado: $47,931 v Volkswagen ID.4: $51,220
3: Toyota RAV4: $36,202 v Chevy Bolt: $41,575
2: Dodge Ram: $37,952 v Tesla Model 3: $53,990
1: Ford F-150: $46,600 v Tesla Model Y: $54,990

Averages: Gas: $35,801.20 EV: $52,084.90

So ya, the difference overall is about $20,000 on average.

However, these are all base prices and while EVs generally have only a few higher priced options, the Gas cars/trucks often start low and have many higher priced options, some over $75K. So I believe the real-world selling price averages would be closer.

I believe it will take governments being aggressive and consistent on their Electric-only targets to force companies to re-tool their productions to both meet demand and bring the prices down.

Both Canada and the USA have recently gone in the opposite direction, both pushing back their EV-only targets. This is both why prices remain high, and we won't hit our CO2 reductions.

And ya, as a proud Hyundai Kona Electric owner, I'm going to finish with this “call-out" from the CEO of Hyundai to other manufacturers.

"Why would anybody want to purchase an EV from an [automaker like Toyota or GM] who’s lobbying against EVs?”

Indeed!

https://electrek.co/2024/04/08/hyundai-us-boss-calls-out-rivals-brand-goes-all-in-on-evs/

GreenFire, to random
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Now it's always a good time to decarbonize and the sooner the better, but unless you totally can't swing it now would be a good time to do it in order to get a quicker return on investment.

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Speaking of investing in decarbonization, did you know that a 2024 Nissan Leaf EV only costs $500 more than a 2024 Toyota Prius gas burner? That's what they say in this story.

#EVs #Decarbonize #ClimateSolutions #ClimateProgress #Leaf

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

The value of efforts to is undercut by our continued failure to implement a real . It's difficult to make a business selling electric cargo bikes if gas is cheap and car is free. Meanwhile we have a housing crisis, because people like to sit in traffic while the radio tells them that the size of their car loan is a status symbol.

GreenFire, to random
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

You won't see headlines like this with the GOP in charge,

If you don't support Democrats, than you are climate science denier no ifs, ands or buts!

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Another headline everyone should know wouldn't have occurred if enough of us hadn't supported Democrats in 2018, 2020 & 2022.

Joint Base San Antonio is the first Department of the Air Force installation planning to introduce a utility-scale advanced geothermal energy system.

https://www.eavor.com/press-releases/u-s-defense-department-awards-eavor-contract-to-power-military-base-through-advanced-geothermal-system/

CelloMomOnCars, to random
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

Department of Energy announces largest-ever investment to decarbonize industry

"The Energy Department on Monday announced up to $6 billion for 33 projects across more than 20 states to energy-intensive industries and reduce industrial greenhouse gas emissions.

When factoring in the companies’ share in the projects, the initiative's total investment would amount to $20 billion."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/03/25/largest-investment-decarbonizing-industry/73073666007/

GreenFire, to climate
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

The place for fossil fuels in our energy transition is undeniably to stay in the ground!

miki_lou, to random
@miki_lou@mastodon.social avatar

Never doubt the influence of right-wing think tanks and Koch Bros money on any effort to and manage . https://www.desmog.com/2023/12/22/canada-new-ev-mandate-toronto-star-atlas-network/

sb, to money
@sb@fed.sbcloud.cc avatar

To and , , , and the are more important than .

The need to keep the flowing and the dream alive outweigh the immediate need to and our planet and work together to survive the mess we've made.

Make no mistake:

Sign , go to & . Yell.

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
@Hypx@mastodon.social avatar
hansbot,
@hansbot@mastodon.green avatar

@Hypx Lots to unpack here.

  1. Hybrid cars have the option to keep driving on . In practice, many people simply don’t bother to charge.
  2. Hybrid cars are heavier than straight cars, therefore wasting even more CO2 per mile than conventional cars
  3. Hybrid cars require seriously high gas prices and low electricity prices to help save humanity as we know it
  4. The US doesn’t get this yet, but Europe and China do
  5. Cars are easy to . The sooner the better.
haritulsidas, to Hydrogen
@haritulsidas@masto.ai avatar

The U.S. is betting big on clean hydrogen to cut emissions from heavy industry. The government has designated seven “Hydrogen Hubs” nationwide to share $7 billion in funds for green hydrogen projects. The hubs could create thousands of jobs, boost U.S. energy security and help the world reach net zero.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/10/17/hydrogen-is-our-best-bet-to-decarbonize-heavy-industry-us-energy-secretary-says/

GreenFire, to climate
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

One of the conundrums of research can be that detrimental things are sometimes done to research detrimental things.

They used GenAI in order to calculate the that GenAI will cause by 2030 to be up to 1.5% more demand on our electricity grid. Every bit of demand growth warms our planet until we've gotten all the fossil fuels off our grid!

Anyways, everyone needs to as quickly as they possibly can please. 🙏

GreenFire, to solar
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

For almost an hour this morning in the midwest of the U.S. almost 2/3rds of our electricity was being produced from power (which is actually a form of power I'd like to point out but that's besides the point).

This is real, tangible and more concrete results of our efforts over the last decades that should give you

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Despite all of the that the grifters are selling, we're actually making and there's still time for us all to and start to reverse this we've caused.

The world's first modular green ammonia plant is starting up in Kenya, allowing the production of fertilizer on farms rather than having it transported thousands of miles.

Thanks for pointing out this story @CommercialSolarGuy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-11/kenya-farm-to-host-first-on-site-hydrogen-to-fertilizer-plant-iowa-to-follow

KimPerales, to climate
@KimPerales@toad.social avatar

Good summary, alarming🚨, but there's hope if mitigating CC is prioritized: Unless sharp reductions in man-made GHG occur soon, the LT average is likely to pass 1.5 °C during the 2030s. By a small margin, BE’s est. of the 1850-1900 reference period is colder than most other groups. As a result, our estimate of the change since the preindustrial period is modestly larger. If 2023 exceeds 1.5 °C this year, it's likely to do so only by a small amount.

https://berkeleyearth.org/september-2023-temperature-update/

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

@KimPerales
Exceeding one point five during the first year of an El Nino is no reason to lose hope, but it is cause to hasten your plan to to the best of your ability and to vote for climate hawks.

esmichelson, to photography

Dear Friends,
My and entry today. For train enthusiasts this is a M3 train built about 40 years ago. This photo was made about 5 years ago but many are still in service. They are good for because they don't have the high-back plastic bucket seats that limit sight lines of later carriages. Also, much more space for overhead storage than later and current models.
to .

ExtinctionR, to random
@ExtinctionR@social.rebellion.global avatar
NovaNaturalist,

@ExtinctionR when you consider this fact, alongside the fact that the world's biggest investment banks are still investing in fossil fuels, you realise that capitalists are actually completely incompetent, they just have control of decision making.

GreenFire, to solar
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

The nuclear industry is so focused on Germany's decision to close their radioactivity factories after Fukushima and Chernobyl it seems to me that in general they're may not be supporters of democracy?

Anyways, Germany's solar installations are up 88% in the first 8 months of 2023, compared to same period of 2022. It installed 8.99 GW in 2023 through August, up from 4.8 GW in 2022. Germany's solar totals 76 GW, with a 2030 goal of 215 GW.

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

In the U.S., at this point in our energy transition started by our election of it is our grid that is our biggest obstacle now.

Which is why I believe that load reduction via distributed and is our fastest path to personally btw.

But regardless, I want to point out what a good resource the gridstatus.io account is towards explaining what we're up against.

They're sharing good news about it in today's blog: https://blog.gridstatus.io/spp-expansion-west/

Hypx, to Hydrogen
@Hypx@mastodon.social avatar

There is simply not that much demand for BEVs. It is mostly a fad driven by subsidies and virtue signaling. It's a matter of when, not if something will give. VW and other car companies will have to cut production and move away from BEVs. Likely towards cars.

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-09-electric-shift-stalls-volkswagen.html

hansbot,
@hansbot@mastodon.green avatar

@Hypx Look at China, look at Norway, look at Germany. Heck, even the IEA has turned around: https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022
More relevant, ’s are the quickest pathway to cars. Once fossil vehicles have become a thing of the past, we’ll see what comes next.
Fortunately, banning the sales of new fossil cars is now finally on the roadmap.

GreenFire, to random
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

More good #ClimateProgress news as EV sales are sizzling in Germany. EVs were 37% of sales in August, up 78% compared to August 2022.

Fully electric vehicles were 32% of sales! Germany is 5th largest auto market in world. China is the biggest auto market, twice USA's, which is the 2nd.

If we want to #KeepItInTheGround than we want everyone to #ElectrifyEverything
https://insideevs.com/news/687160/germany-electric-car-sales-august2023/

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Speaking of the globe's 2nd largest auto market, US cumulative EV investment skyrocketed 5X or 400% since January 2022, rising from $32.6 billion to 165 billion! Since passage of Biden's Inflation Reduction Act through August 10, 2023, $92.3 billion of EV investment flowed.

With the cost of EV batteries falling about 50% every 5 years since 2008 it's now within reach of most Americans to

I know that this week activists are attacking Biden, but his policies are helping a lot!

GreenFire, to climate
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Interested in learning more about what assistance you can get from Biden's Inflation Reduction Act climate legislation to help you decarbonize so that you're no longer warming our globe? Webinar on September 7th.

GreenFire, to random
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

To all of the Americans that voted for Joe Biden and other democrat supporting candidates in 2020, THANK YOU!

Total US EV and battery investment for the period 2015-2023 doubled in the last 12 months! An incredible 56% of investment took place in last year. EV and battery jobs skyrocket too, with 47% of those jobs announced in last 12 months. https://www.edf.org/sites/default/files/2023-08/EDF%20WSP%20EV%20report%208-16-23%20FINAL%20FINAL.pdf

GreenFire,
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

Behind the meter solar is providing almost a third of the electricity powering this grid in New England.

There's no better time to than now unless you already have!

InfoMgmtExec, to Hydrogen

I really can't stomach these pushing their as part of the spending frenzy.
will NOT our world. It is a replacement fuel being promoted by and and won't contribute to .

.

godsouza, to random
@godsouza@sfba.social avatar

https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelthomaswrites/p/america-needs-to-install-a-lot-more?r=11rw36&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

To the sector, we need to go from 66 million fossil fuel to zero over the next three decades.
In order to achieve this goal, we need to phase out 2.4 million every single year for the next 27 years. This is where the math gets a little scary.

ricardoharvin, to random
@ricardoharvin@mstdn.social avatar

Climate change is an immediate threat to the majority of the world's population.

We need a local, regional, state, national, and international "moon shot" type of concentration of effort using available resources while developing and advancing new science and technologies to counteract the damage humans have caused.

Without this type of all-out, universal cooperation, human civilization, and perhaps humanity itself, are in imminent danger of extinction.

ricardoharvin,
@ricardoharvin@mstdn.social avatar

"...that transition to a low future is not going to happen overnight. We need realistic options and that allow us to our existing ."

Too many insist that only "perfect" mitigation solutions are worth pursuing.

I believe that doing Everything, Everywhere, All at Once is the best, imperfect, strategy for saving us from our ongoing disaster.

By ever-improving "good" options, we can save ourselves.

https://youtu.be/JGe8R0N20ps?si=49swuEorQzJIBquH

ricardoharvin,
@ricardoharvin@mstdn.social avatar

Everything, Everywhere, All at Once mitigation strategies and solutions.

the , not just reducing or eliminating new :

https://mstdn.science/@meteomara/111173739334404873

MichaelEMann, to climate

My interview earlier today on @cbsmornings on the unprecedented heat and extreme weather this summer, the that is behind it, and what we can still do about it: https://www.cbsnews.com/video/us-will-continue-to-get-warmer-weather-will-become-more-extreme-climate-scientist-warns/

sergiodomeyko,
@sergiodomeyko@mastodon.online avatar

@MichaelEMann @cbsmornings 25 days in a row and counting at or above 110 F in Arizona? Did I hear correctly? That is just crazy! Thanks for the interview and once again SPOT ON with saying that it is NOT TOO LATE. NOW!
for climate advocates!
Gracias Michael!

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