VinesNFluff, to random
@VinesNFluff@kitty.social avatar

I am very much not looking forward to the #graduation ceremony tonight

It's gonna be so boooooring

So many boomers saying boomer words about how awesome they are

Do people like
Actually enjoy this kind of event?
Honest question.

Maybe these ceremonies are a #neurotypical thing I'm too #autistic to understand?

I mean, they continue to like. Exist, so to me that signals there is someone who must enjoy them.

eyesquash, to random
@eyesquash@mastodon.world avatar
RL_Dane, to ADHD
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

What if "" is just a euphemism for "boring?"

Raccoon, to Autism
@Raccoon@techhub.social avatar

Since April is , I felt like I should amplify the fact that people with and spectrum disorders almost unanimously feel that is counterproductive in that it actively avoids allowing autistic representation, and focuses on suppressing autistic traits in general rather than trying to bolster coping skills and give autistic people wider acceptance in society.

It's the equivalent of an organization about people in wheelchairs, run entirely by people who are inconvenienced by them, pulling attention away from advocacy for ramps in order to find ways to make the wheelchairs less obtrusive, at the expense of the people in wheelchairs.

They are people, shouting over people.

(Also, this article has some information on that raises some questions for me, as someone with and a background)

https://medium.com/artfullyautistic/autism-speaks-is-the-largest-autism-organization-so-why-dont-autistic-people-like-it-f7b3bd30dd5c

juergen_hubert, to random
@juergen_hubert@thefolklore.cafe avatar

My friend tells me that I am the only friend of hers who is willing to hear her out on why she does the way she does things without offering unsolicited advice or being judgmental about her lifestyle. Which is sad. We neurotypicals really need to do better.

Though I sometimes wonder if there is a good business case for "Neurotypicals explain weird neurotypical stuff to people"... but nah. Someone else can tackle that one - I have enough on my plate as it is. 😉

juergen_hubert, to Autism
@juergen_hubert@thefolklore.cafe avatar

My fellow people:

If a person tells you of their life experience, then PLEASE don't dismiss them and tell them what do to fit your personal narrative of what a "proper lifestyle" should be. Their life experience are not yours, and you should respect that!

This is such a simple concept - and yet, based on how often a friend with rants about it, most neurotypical people just don't seem to get it!

_9CL7T9k8cjnD_, to random

@smileystonerocksagain LOL. Am I Orlando? And are you Rosalind/Ganymede testing my love for you? https://youtu.be/Np_Y740aReI?feature=shared

image/jpeg

_9CL7T9k8cjnD_,

I started with Claude switched to Gemini when it coughed up chunks. I use AIs a lot and they all have their issues and biases. I treat as I'm not --have and and Grew up in SE Colorado poverty--homeless at times--to Educated myself out of squalor: degrees in Bio, Music, and Statistics. Lived and taught in Kenya Retired from Pharmaceuticals Nice to meet you

ainmosni, to random
@ainmosni@berlin.social avatar

If people are , does that make people ?

StevenSaus, to audhd

The game show "Family Feud" is, at heart, a giant neurodivergent/
neurotypical sorting hat.

Watch any "funniest family feud moments" compilation on YouTube.

You'll see what I mean.

@audhd

JessTheUnstill, to Autism

I sometimes still struggle with communicating with other autistics because (some) folks can mask and "sound neurotypical", and they may also be hearing you speak and thinking you're "speaking neurotypical". It's basically a whole prisoners dilemma.

Are they or

Do they know that I'm ND

If they are NT, they may be lying to appear ND to get an advantage of some form

If they are ND, they may be translating their thoughts into NT so they don't get misunderstood by NT people, or they may be speaking ND, and I don't need to translate back

So based on what they say, do I assume:

  • They are NT speaking "honestly" as NT, thus if I apply a normal NT --> ND translation, we will understand one another

  • They are NT or ND and lying, thus no matter which translations I attempt to use, I can't trust any of it

  • They are ND and translating their thoughts into NT, so I still need to apply an NT --> ND translation in order to understand one another, but I also have to be aware that they may have made errors in their original ND --> NT translation too

  • They are ND and speaking their thoughts in ND, so I don't need to translate, I can simply accept their statement as ND speak

WelshAdventurer, to random

Do other people buy multiple copies of clothing items they like?

Not talking about different colours but the same item in the same colour.

If so, are you neurotypical or neurodivergent?

joshsusser, to ADHD

We need better words for talking about in ways that aren't pathological, clinical, or derisive. I don't think it's useful to try to think up neologisms on the spot, but I keep my eyes open for new terminology that might arise organically in conversation. Any new words folks are using that are worth sharing?

The word "neurodiversity" itself is kind of new, and it's already been through a bit of an evolution and maybe even has tainted origins, but it's a good word and there's a reason so many of us use it. But even so, I wish it didn't sound so medical. (The evolution I mention is that "neurodiverse" used to mean "not neurotypical", but now generally is used to mean all neurotypes including neurotypical. We use "neurodivergent" for "not neurotypical" now. Likewise "neurotypical" used to mean not autistic, but we say "allistic" for that now.)

A few hashtags that could use an upgrade:

reginagrogan, to Funny
@reginagrogan@mastodon.social avatar

Because i am i sometimes have trouble socially…

Guy: you have beautiful hair
Me: it grows from my head
Guy: ok

Guy: that speech was from the heart!
Me: no
Me: it was from my mouth.
Guy: ….ummm

I always thought nobody was but its actually my inability to recognize such a thing

hongminhee, to random
@hongminhee@todon.eu avatar

Hot take: practices are , hence neurodiverse workers are much more difficult to follow them then neurotypical workers.

ceruleanarc, to mentalhealth

Matt Lowry, LPP, of Child & Adolescent Psychological Evaluations, LLC, in St. Matthews, Kentucky, created diagnostic criteria for folks, if neurotypical folks were diagnosed with a instead of folks.

It's pretty genius, and it showcases precisely why pathologizing any can do more harm than good by stigmatizing anything that deviates from what most people consider "normal."

You can read more about Matt Lowry at his website: https://www.mattlowrylpp.com

Enjoy the following 6 images, which show the proposed, hypothetical diagnostic criteria for !

(1 of 2)

Specify current severity: Severity is based on social obsessions and level of need for consistent social interaction. B) Restricted concepts of what is socially appropriate, or an ambiguously-defined "normal," as manifested by at least two of the following, currently, or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive): 1. Stereotyped or repetitive beliefs that have been passed down from prior generations and are not questioned. 2. Injection of ritualistic phrases into social interaction, and/or asking rhetorical questions that lack genuine query and exist solely to perpetuate the duration of social interaction (l.e. "How are you?" "I'm fine!" "Working hard or hardly working?") If the social interaction is paused, these phrases may need to be repeated before communication can be resumed. 3. Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to prior behaviors "the way it's always been done," or ritualized patterns of nonverbal or verbal behavior (i.e. adherence to family traditions despite being draining of energy, emotions, and causing conflict.)
4. Loosely defined and poorly maintained interests that lack intensity or focus, and tend to be used anecdotally in order to facilitate social communication. 5. Hyporeactivity to environmental stimuli, requiring excessive and ongoing stimuli to supplement the environment (i.e. drinking alcohol while in nature, listening to loud music while driving, or talking on the phone while doing other activities). Specify current severity: Severity is based on social communication obsessions and lack of defined interests. C) Deficits in healthy identity development as manifested by at least two of the following, currently, or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive): 1. Identity is based largely on the social group with whom the client identifies (i.e. religion, race, sports team, political party, alcoholic beverage of choice) 2. Due to identity being based on a particular social group, the client has hostility towards other social groups that the client finds to be in opposition of their own social group.
3. The client has an obsessive need for competition to prove their own abilities and to somehow out-do or outmaneuver others. This need may lead to their own competition or an obsession with competition on television (i.e. sporting events, competitive talent shows, competitive cooking shows, or shows where contestants are eliminated weekly). 4. The client engages in self-elevation, as evidenced by braggartry, pageantry, and endless self-promotion. 5. On more days than not, the individual experiences an unquestioned compulsion to perform ritualistic acts that signal membership in a perceived social group, such as a gender, despite costing the individual significant time, money, or physical discomfort. The individual holds beliefs that confirm these rituals are necessary. If they are unable to perform the rituals, they feel excessive anxiety, and may even suffer a crisis of identity. Examples include but are not limited to: spending large amounts of time and money on make-up and other cosmetic procedures; wearing uncomfortable and physically restrictive clothing, such as high heels or tight pants; spending more money on a product that is marketed as congruent with one's identified gender than on an equivalent product

st0neybrat, to ADHD
@st0neybrat@mastodon.social avatar

Why does almost every take it as a personal attack when you don't want to do anything and don't have the energy to give? I'm and I'm struggling here to even form words verbally. The one and only time I feel relaxed or at ease is when I'm alone. Or maybe I'm broken who knows, but I just want to hide in a cocoon and be myself.

GoldenRetrieverGF, to OCD

There was a day a long time ago when my then boss told me he had gone to the ER. He thought he was having a heart attack. His wife had left, he was trying to manage custody and a restaurant during Covid19 quarantine. The doctors told him he had had his first panic attack.

In my head my brain made a sound like a record screech. "You went to the ER. For chrissakes I have a panic attack and it's just Tuesday."

I have a very severe mental illness. I got it tested once under an inventory. I tested as incredibly severe. I still probably have a panic attack once a week or so. My girlishfriend says she can set her watch to the patterns I make through a day. That everything, even my messes have an exact place they are "allowed" to be and I fake flexibility through therapy techniques I learned through years of intensive therapy.

I used to vacuum my room for 5 hours a day and THEN comb my carpet with a dog brush. My first symptom I remember, I was 6 or 7 and I had made my first perfect 'o' in handwriting and I missed recess trying to replicate it. I cannot imagine what it is like to live every day combatting patterns in your mind or counting to 5 on my fingers.

My OCD became full fledged when I entered puberty and now that I'm 36 it's basically a witches familiar. I struggle with it but now I use and abuse it in my industry ( cooking ) and it's so culturally normal in where I live now that it's hard to receive a diagnosis here and it makes cultural integration almost completely seemless. It's just there, a constant combatant and ally that just will never go away. There is no cure and it's just so useful that i really don't mind it.

But my coworkers still asked me today "Taylor, ist alles gut? Du siehst so so Böse aus." ( en: is everything okay? You look so so terrible ) because I had a panic attack right before work. I cannot imagine the life people live in. I can't imagine not seeing patterns everywhere or constantly combatting my brain forming new and fun obessions and compulsions to go along with that I either need to allow if harmless or combat if not. Like it just stuns me. They were concerned and I turned out to be the stable cool-headed backbone during shift.

Most people would go for the ER. For me it is just waking up. It's just like living on a different planet from Nuerotypicals. I get along mostly really well with my girlishfriend. To her I am understandable but only just. I still think it's truly the typicals that are strange. It takes no strength to really make it through their day when every single day I have to do exposure therapy or I am back where I was, vacuuming my room while counting the number of times I perfectly counted to five. My constant stress is much less than that of a restaurant. I dunno what I am really trying to say other than "What in the heck are neurotypicals and why am I the weak one?"

Book_gnome, to ADHD

Sometimes I wonder where I got certain ideas growing up that have become routines, particularly the ones that I feel are there to make me seem "normal" or

How many of them were based on things family made me do to fit in, or things I saw on TV or read in books, how many of them were based on judgements I watched happen from peer to peer and never wanted to experience that judgement on my own.

For instance, I very specifically have to make sure my shirt/outfit looks different from one day to the next to make sure no one thinks I'm still wearing the same clothes.

I feel like if I'm going to interact professionally, I need to have at least showered within a day past or I will be "stinky".

I can't leave the house without brushing my teeth, heck that's the first thing I need to do after leaving bed or I feel gross.

There are thousands of these little 'rules' that I follow and I'm sure they came from multiple places, but how much more stress am I causing myself by sticking strictly to these rules even when it makes my life harder and no one would notice otherwise?

deriamis, to random
@deriamis@mstdn.social avatar

This portion of a post on r/Blind is an excellent example of the difference between how “disabled” people actually function and how “normal” people perceive them. The rest of the post is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20230703134218/https://old.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14nzwkm/they_finally_did_it_reddit_made_it_impossible_for/

To emphasize the point from my own perspective: people are only disabled as far as people consistently refuse to adapt to . We are capable of living fully functional lives, and that’s all most of us are asking for.

Richard_Littler, (edited ) to ADHD
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social avatar

I'm just finishing up a novel. I've been writing screenplays & other story-led narratives for decades. Classic structure has been drummed into me. But then, when I was diagnosed as neurodivergent, I thought, 'Hold on, maybe the traditional story model is actually a neurotypical device...'
I decided to let my / write my novel. In doing so, I have developed a new revolutionary storytelling model. You're welcome.
@actuallyautistic

amm01,

@Richard_Littler @actuallyautistic

I don't want to sound aloof, but the thinking styles of NTs are not without flaws. There is no obvious reason why they should be overrated.

Maybe they have just a better marketing strategy.🤔

mariyadelano, to fediverse
@mariyadelano@hachyderm.io avatar

Has anybody written on the influence and impact of people on the & ?

Looking for sources for a piece I'm writing.

@actuallyautistic

ablackcatstail,

@mariyadelano @actuallyautistic I haven't written on it but I have casually observed that the is an acceptable and safe place to discuss our at length and detail and have people genuinely intrigued by what we have to offer. Some of us (like myself) are experts in the minute details of the way networks and communications operate.

It's been a place of education and teaching for me: A real respite from the skullduggery and exhaustion that being in a work can really and truly be.

schratze, to random
@schratze@todon.nl avatar

neurospicy implies the existence of
-neurosweet
-neurosalty
-neurobitter
-neurosour
-neurosavory
-neurotangy
-neuromild
-neurobland

kkarhan,
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Private
ablackcatstail,

@dipolecat @actuallyautistic I hear you. Often the neurotypical offer tone deaf advice because they make no attempt to even begin to understand what our lives are like. The see us as broken; we are not broken. We are just different and that is perfectly okay.

blbc,
Jyoti, to random
@Jyoti@mas.to avatar

As a type I think we should start saying instead of the hugely value-laden 'normal.'

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