mastodonmigration, (edited ) to random
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

When you post on Twitter(1) or Bluesky(2) you grant them a broad perpetual license to use, modify, and sublicense your content. You effectively make them co-owners of your content. They can mine it and monetize it. They can even sell it. When you post on Mastodon(3) most instances take no license at all. That's right, they tell you what they are doing with your content—storing posts and delivering them—but no license.

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bok_bok_ba_gok,
cory, to internet
@cory@social.lol avatar

is going to be federated until they need to monetize and pivot into the whole embrace/extend/extinguish thing

noelle, to internet

Wait so are people actually using Bluesky? I keep seeing people talking about Bluesky on the fediverse. I figured people wouldn't actually use it after what happened with Twitter...

liaizon, to internet
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

AOC just signed up for , this is gonna get interesting

pezmico, to internet
@pezmico@mastodon.nz avatar

Godspeed to everyone excited to try out , but remember it's Jack Dorsey's, ex twitter billionaire.

He was happy to pass it on to Musk, calling him "the singular solution I trust".

They claim to be decentralised but aren't (at least not yet) and their TOS are quite over the top, claiming ownership of anything uploaded to the platform (like Facebook).

Mastodon/Fediverse is by no means perfect. But I'd rather stay away from these ultra rich psychopaths thanks.

Won't be fooled twice.

aiefel, to internet
@aiefel@mastodon.social avatar

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  • engineerminded,
    @engineerminded@techhub.social avatar

    @aiefel being in beta and being "invite only" sounds like the same hype train both and had and look how they turned out.

    BlackAzizAnansi, to random
    @BlackAzizAnansi@mas.to avatar

    I'm annoyed that Mastodon is letting Blue Sky eat its lunch.

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @BlackAzizAnansi I'm more annoyed by people ignoring the fact that #Dorsey is a #sellout and #CryptoBro that literally wants to #paywall likes on #BlueSky...

    How anyone wants to trust that guy with anything is beyond me...

    padraig, to internet

    For people that have - What are your thoughts on it?

    I'm reading more and more about it on here every day.

    To me it sounds like they are doing their own spin on ActivityPub but only Bluesky instances can talk to each other... Have I got that right?

    matthiasott, to internet
    @matthiasott@mastodon.social avatar

    Really curious by now how looks at the moment. So if anyone has an invite to spare…

    But don’t worry. I like it here a lot! 😉💚

    drneevil, to internet

    Can’t deny it, I’m curious about

    Starlight, to internet

    So Twitter is finally imploding now that Bluesky is starting up. Hmmmmm

    Anyways, here’s Homer Simpson trying the red wire again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-W8Ox3YsAE

    bennysp, to internet
    @bennysp@fosstodon.org avatar

    I think the question to ask on is.... What problem is it solving? Admittedly, I am not on Bluesky yet, but I like to explore to learn - if nothing else. The problem, and what I keep hearing, is it is Twitter 2.0. With that said, I still don't know what problem it solves. It cannot be the "Twitter without Elon". Surely this is not good enough.
    The federated solution seems to solve the problem of having ONE company control social media. So hence, I am here on a platform like .

    GWillow, to internet

    Sounds like has cracked the Twitter code: enable and encourage shitposting

    witchescauldron, to internet

    If you take the business wank out, this is exactly how the ten-year-old project works https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/4-13-2023-moderation masked

    witchescauldron,

    are technically and

    charlesdardaman, to internet
    blake, (edited ) to internet

    I'm considering writing a formal document (FEP?) that specifies how an ActivityPub service (including both server and client behavior) may implement domain-only names like has. Because it's the biggest beneficial thing Bluesky has that we don't (the one other thing is detached "preferred" handles, which is related). I've reasoned somewhere else before that it would be super helpful for , , and .

    Thoughts and technical ideas in thread below 🧵 ⬇️

    adamjcook, (edited ) to internet

    My hot take on is that it is never going to be federated in practice.

    Federation inherently brings considerable complexity - and already well-followed users moving over are just seeking a wholesale anti- alternative.

    By and large, they do not care about the benefits of federation (which is understandable)... and so there will be no demand for implementations of the outside of the default, proprietary instance.

    robertvh, to internet

    It kind of cracks me up is abbreviated to BS.

    shoq, to random
    @shoq@mastodon.social avatar

    @anildash does a good job of explaining why we should not be antagonistic toward projects like Bluesky, if they're at least decentralized, a step toward a true open web.

    But I understand why many see this is as opening the door to big corporate dollars that MIGHT suck interest — and community support $$ — from Fedi instances. Of course, it will do some of that, but if the whole fedi project can be so easily eclipsed, we'll have to question why, and seek remedy. Isolationism rarely works.

    shoq,
    @shoq@mastodon.social avatar

    And i say this as someone who hopes dies a swift death, mainly because Fedi needs a bigger head start. But I really don't think that's going to happen any time soon. So we well have to co-exist and each will have to prove our value propositions, or risk irrelevance, extinction—or both,

    KorvaxChris, to internet

    So uh, does anyone have any invites? 👀

    judeswae, to fediverse
    @judeswae@toot.thoughtworks.com avatar

    I'm starting to think we're going to have a campaign on also, but for a completely different reason. ;)

    judeswae,
    @judeswae@toot.thoughtworks.com avatar
    erinmikail, to fediverse
    @erinmikail@mastodon.social avatar

    I’m already exhausted of all the social apps that are out there 😵‍💫

    I do find myself drawn into anything based because it appears the most true and long lasting based on existing president.

    gwynnion, to random
    @gwynnion@mastodon.social avatar

    Some people will never leave Twitter because it's familiar, they're an established journalist addicted to feeling important, or because they're right-wing chuds who want to see Musk and Truth Social Redux succeed.

    Some will migrate to Bluesky for Twitter without Musk. Some will stick with Mastodon on principle or because it's good enough. And then there's some also rans. But I don't think Mastodon or Twitter are going anywhere anytime soon.

    donnodubus,
    @donnodubus@mas.to avatar

    @gwynnion This has always been my frustration with — that its developers and community don't aspire to unseat Capitalist control of social media. They "think small," despite the huge potential offered.

    Had Gargron allowed for "quote toots" and popularity-sorted feeds, Mastodon would have nipped in the bud months ago.

    Now that window has probably passed, and some VC-funded alternative protocol will overshadow it.

    eARCwelder, to internet

    My hot take is that I feel like 's success/failure has no implications for Mastodon whatsoever. The people who'll really be into BlueSky were never going to like Mastodon anyway; the Mastodon HOA diehards feel the same about BlueSky. These are also both tiny and complicated platforms compared to Twitter.

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